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re: What record saves Muschamp's job?
Posted on 8/2/14 at 12:25 pm to slayerxing
Posted on 8/2/14 at 12:25 pm to slayerxing
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Muschamp played 6 teams that finished ranked in the top 15 and beat 4 of them. One of the best coaching jobs of the modern era. Les Miles played 5 such teams in 2011 and went 4-1. Only other coach in the modern era to win 4 such games, I believe. That wasn't an "accident."
"In 2013, Muschamp led the Gators to a 4–8 season. This was Florida's first losing season since 1979. Muschamp again had a losing record in the SEC, 3-5. This made Muschamp the first Gators coach to have two losing SEC records since the 1950s."
You can call it what you want.
The fact is: He had a monster defense and all he needed to do was keep his offense on the field long enough to keep them around.
His entire defense was an Urban Meyer squad save maybe one player.
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Perhaps. One could certainly argue that he had "lost" the team by that point. Certainly a bad mark on his coaching resume, but it's sort of unfair to look at an entire career of a person and give him a label based on one bad game. In retrospect, we would be measuring Saban off his worst loss to ULM? Come on...
Muschamp has almost lost to an FCS twice now -- requiring some unbelievable luck. Secondly: Muschamp picked up a team full of god-tier athletes -- five and four stars all over the field.
Saban picked up a team riddled with sanctions and coming off a scandal.
Apples and landmines.
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8 wins. His recruiting classes have been good, his only issues have been management and offensive staff issues. He corrects those and 8 wins should be the minimum. UF should be the clear favorite in 6 games this year, and a good coach should be able to win 2 of the remaining 6 games, especially since 3 are at home and 5 are in the state of Florida, where UF historically plays very well.
I think 7 wins and a bowl victory (convincing) will keep him around and I think he ought to stick around. If we kept him after last year, I can't imagine we fire him if he's improving the team.
It all hinges on the offense. If we lose some close games to top-tier teams, it's really not his fault.
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In that case I guess the 2006 national championship is all because of Ron Zook... stupid logic. Muschamp coached them up!
That's simply not true because in 2008 Meyer reproduced the result, Muschamp has...gotten a lot worse as soon as the new talent took the field and that much is obvious.
How on Earth does your defense lose to a team that didn't complete a single pass if you're "coaching up your defense"?
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Injuries are not an excuse for the loss to Georgia southern. They contributed, but UF still should have won that game, regardless.
Any injury contributes, but that's where scheming comes in...Muschamp is not a schemer.
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The last thing I'll say, and yes, the Georgia southern fiasco is really bad, and terrible, but it is ONE GAME. You can't judge a coach based on one game, or even one bad season. You have to look at the body of work. 2014 will tell the tale.
Really? Have you forgotten Vanderbilt?
What about ULL?
What about Louisville?
Want to know what they have in common?
They're all teams that we have a major advantage in talent wise that beat or could have beaten us if not for some very lucky play.
This isn't one game, and to keep bleating that it's the only bullet I have is getting tiresome.
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And cut out that "alright, thanks" bullshite. It makes you sound like a douche.
Would you like a tissue?
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:32 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I'm not sold on Muschamp, but I don't think the record last year is an indication of his ability as a head coach. Especially given the 11-2 season the year prior against one of the most difficult schedules in the country. There were a lot of things that did not go Florida's way last year. There was just a total clusterfrick of bad bounces, unlucky breaks, and critical injuries. There were some faults of coaching too, but I think most of those were on the offensive side of the staff, and really, if those have been fixed, I like Muschamp as a long term coach at Florida.
One more year will tell us if he can do it.
One more year will tell us if he can do it.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 3:43 pm to slayerxing
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One more year will tell us if he can do it.
This is the year that will tell the tale. We have had pretty much the 3 type of seasons you can have in college football with Muschamp. Great, mediocre, and terrible.
7-6 mediocre(it was actually somewhat of a small miracle we got 7 wins that year. At one time I thought that was going to be our first losing season since 79)
11-2 great
4-8 terrible
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 4:15 pm to slayerxing
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I'm not sold on Muschamp, but I don't think the record last year is an indication of his ability as a head coach. Especially given the 11-2 season the year prior against one of the most difficult schedules in the country. There were a lot of things that did not go Florida's way last year. There was just a total clusterfrick of bad bounces, unlucky breaks, and critical injuries. There were some faults of coaching too, but I think most of those were on the offensive side of the staff, and really, if those have been fixed, I like Muschamp as a long term coach at Florida.
One more year will tell us if he can do it.
I don't think he's a bad dude but there's only one type of coach that survives and perseveres these times: Those who can adapt.
And so far, Muschamp has shown that he is either unwilling or incapable of that.
If he comes back with a completely different offense -- one based more for the spread then I'll be content but he should have foreseen those problems way, way before a 4 - 8 season.
The production has been terrible from the get go, and it took him the worst season in Florida history since before I was born, losing to an FCS, getting blown out of the water on our homecoming, empty stadiums and a humiliating loss to Louisville for him to finally get with the program that his offense was the problem.
I really hope he sticks around and changes the offense -- I think he's at least marginally inspirational to his players and he seems like an honest man.
But he's got to change just about everything about his offensive coaching philosophy.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 4:38 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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And so far, Muschamp has shown that he is either unwilling or incapable of that.
That doesn't make any sense. He has abandoned the pro style offense and switched us back to the spread. After the season was over he watched game film and noticed the offense moved the ball better in the shotgun. During spring practices the offense didnt take one single snap under center, everything was out of the gun. Not to mention with terrible Oline play and development, he fired the Oline coach.
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I think he's at least marginally inspirational to his players and he seems like an honest man.
We definitely agree on this. The heart and effort the team displayed in the South Carolina game last year is the main thing that has given me hope about our program moving forward.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:42 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Forseen? WTF the head coach at FLorida has to be able to know the future?
Stop blindly hating. Pro style obviously has worked other places with great effect. He had a vision, but unfortunately, was not able to put together a good enough offensive staff to bring it to fruition.
He did everything right in the off season to correct the issue. New offense, new coaches, new philosophy.
You can count on one hand the number of coaches who have the ability to self analyze enough to change THEIR ENTIRE PHILOSOPHY over the course of one year.
Stop blindly hating. Pro style obviously has worked other places with great effect. He had a vision, but unfortunately, was not able to put together a good enough offensive staff to bring it to fruition.
He did everything right in the off season to correct the issue. New offense, new coaches, new philosophy.
You can count on one hand the number of coaches who have the ability to self analyze enough to change THEIR ENTIRE PHILOSOPHY over the course of one year.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:44 pm to slayerxing
Also, the production was NOT terrible from the get go. UF was on the verge of being pretty good before Brantley got injured in 2011. Hell, UF scored more on Alabama than LSU did in TWO GAMES.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 5:50 pm to slayerxing
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UF was on the verge of being pretty good before Brantley got injured in 2011. Hell, UF scored more on Alabama than LSU did in TWO GAMES.
What Brantley did in the first half of the Bama game was nothing short of amazing. Had he not got hurt in that first half, we might not of been beat Bama but we would have been way more successful going forward that season.
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Posted on 8/2/14 at 7:59 pm to slayerxing
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Forseen? WTF the head coach at FLorida has to be able to know the future?
Yeah, see below.
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Stop blindly hating.
I think I've given a pretty lucid picture -- stop blindly supporting. Saying "Oh give him a chance" isn't saying shite.
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Pro style obviously has worked other places with great effect.
Very rarely with an entire crew that's geared toward the spread. We had no pro-style players on the team, not a single one.
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He had a vision, but unfortunately, was not able to put together a good enough offensive staff to bring it to fruition.
Maybe it was the direction of the offense, not the staff. He blew through two offensive coordinators who, bizarrely, decided to change their entire offensive philosophy when they came to Florida and ran the exact same offense as each other.
Strange.
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You can count on one hand the number of coaches who have the ability to self analyze enough to change THEIR ENTIRE PHILOSOPHY over the course of one year.
...It's not that hard when you go 4 - 8 and have a season so bad that not a single player was born when the last one happened.
He took a team with several championship ring holders and somehow managed to botch the only success he's ever had in the Sugar Bowl.
I said I like the dude, but that doesn't always get results.
He's not changing because he really wants to -- he's changing to save his job. He should have changed the offense around when we were over the 100 mark the year before this last one.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:29 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Not sure how WM hasn't philosophically changed the offense with the hire of Roper. It is a 180 from Pease systematically.
The offense was abysmal in '12, but UF won games with a stout D. Not sure how you don't give a coach credit for winning 11, but then you want to give them full credit for the 8 losses the following year. Guess we agree to disagree there.
UF has made whole sale changes on the offensive side of the ball following 2 terrible years worth of production. If that isn't self evaluation by the HC, I don't know what is.
The offense was abysmal in '12, but UF won games with a stout D. Not sure how you don't give a coach credit for winning 11, but then you want to give them full credit for the 8 losses the following year. Guess we agree to disagree there.
UF has made whole sale changes on the offensive side of the ball following 2 terrible years worth of production. If that isn't self evaluation by the HC, I don't know what is.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 8:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You're not providing any facts either. You're just bitching.
Blew through two coordinators?
Charlie Weis took a fricken head coaching job. How is that Muschamp's fault? He hired a good coordinator (everyone everywhere liked the hire) but then weis left him high and dry. it happens.
He did his homework, and went after another highly thought of OC, but that didn't work out for more managerial reasons. Pease didn't get along with the rest of the staff. It happens. See Billy G once Addazio was promoted.
And they DEFINITELY did not run the same offense. It was in the same family, but to call it identical is ridiculous.
Also how was John Brantley not a fricking Pro QB? Revisionist history much?
And you say he arrived to a team with a bunch of people who had championship rings? What an absolute load of shite. Almost no one on the 2011 team had anything, ANYTHING to do with those championship teams. Janoris Jenkins was the biggest defensive contributor, and he was kicked off the team right off because he was always in trouble, and Rainey and Demps had serviceable seasons in 2011, given the limitations at QB after Brantley was hurt and the limitations at the WR position.
You want to talk about a coach that wouldn't ever adapt? Look at the great Urban meyer in 2005 and 2010. He didn't have the right QB for his system, and in both seasons, UF was mired in mediocrity. If you took the 2010 team, hit them with the 2013 injuries, and had them play the 2013 schedule, UF would have been just as bad, if not worse. That team and that staff was ridiculously dysfunctional.
I'm not blindly supporting anyone. I have big problems and concerns about Muschamp, but I also won't blindly bash the guy either. And despite what you think about your "logic" (which has been mostly misremembered revisionist BS) you haven't said anything very concrete other than, oh he lost to Georgia Southern and Louisville.
Blew through two coordinators?
Charlie Weis took a fricken head coaching job. How is that Muschamp's fault? He hired a good coordinator (everyone everywhere liked the hire) but then weis left him high and dry. it happens.
He did his homework, and went after another highly thought of OC, but that didn't work out for more managerial reasons. Pease didn't get along with the rest of the staff. It happens. See Billy G once Addazio was promoted.
And they DEFINITELY did not run the same offense. It was in the same family, but to call it identical is ridiculous.
Also how was John Brantley not a fricking Pro QB? Revisionist history much?
And you say he arrived to a team with a bunch of people who had championship rings? What an absolute load of shite. Almost no one on the 2011 team had anything, ANYTHING to do with those championship teams. Janoris Jenkins was the biggest defensive contributor, and he was kicked off the team right off because he was always in trouble, and Rainey and Demps had serviceable seasons in 2011, given the limitations at QB after Brantley was hurt and the limitations at the WR position.
You want to talk about a coach that wouldn't ever adapt? Look at the great Urban meyer in 2005 and 2010. He didn't have the right QB for his system, and in both seasons, UF was mired in mediocrity. If you took the 2010 team, hit them with the 2013 injuries, and had them play the 2013 schedule, UF would have been just as bad, if not worse. That team and that staff was ridiculously dysfunctional.
I'm not blindly supporting anyone. I have big problems and concerns about Muschamp, but I also won't blindly bash the guy either. And despite what you think about your "logic" (which has been mostly misremembered revisionist BS) you haven't said anything very concrete other than, oh he lost to Georgia Southern and Louisville.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:02 pm to slayerxing
Gillislee was also a pro-style RB coming out of highschool from what I remember.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:13 pm to slayerxing
Pease had everyone fooled, including Saban.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:30 pm to gatordmb89
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The offense was abysmal in '12, but UF won games with a stout D. Not sure how you don't give a coach credit for winning 11, but then you want to give them full credit for the 8 losses the following year. Guess we agree to disagree there.
Eh, when your entire reason for winning is a defense that you didn't build -- but the reason you lose is an offensive "vision" you had I think that's the big difference.
Take Meyer with Zook personnel. He turned a team that was mediocre on offense and made it a monster and retained the defense.
We didn't really win on scheme, we won on holding on to dear God and hoping the other team didn't score. I said this last time: That can't last. We fooled people for the short term, but then once teams realized we couldn't retain possession they simply beat us at our own game.
Muschamp literally got outschemed by an FCS coach with more injured players than us.
He didn't really scheme anything the year before -- just leaned on the stacked defense he was left with.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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He didn't really scheme anything the year before
Disagree with that completely. In 2012 he was regarded as the best halftime adjustment coach in the country.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 9:45 pm to slayerxing
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You're not providing any facts either. You're just bitching.
I'd love to see your proof.
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Charlie Weis took a fricken head coaching job. How is that Muschamp's fault? He hired a good coordinator (everyone everywhere liked the hire) but then weis left him high and dry. it happens.
Muschamp and Weis didn't like each other and it was phantasmagorically obvious. To the point of me wondering whether or not I can take you seriously enough to be intellectually honest.
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He did his homework, and went after another highly thought of OC, but that didn't work out for more managerial reasons. Pease didn't get along with the rest of the staff. It happens. See Billy G once Addazio was promoted.
I'm pretty sure Muschamp's vision did not coincide with Pease's vision. I don't think Pease thought when he came to Florida he'd be calling an offense like the one he was forced to call. I can't be convinced that an offensive coordinator of his stature came to Florida and suddenly had no clue how to run an offense.
I do believe a guy who wants to be Baby Bama would do something like that, however.
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And they DEFINITELY did not run the same offense. It was in the same family, but to call it identical is ridiculous.
Really, what was different? Aside from a spread element being added in the read-option.
They both had the exact same production, too. Both over 100 in offense.
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Also how was John Brantley not a fricking Pro QB? Revisionist history much?
I'll give you that -- but his entire college career before Muschamp came was from the shotgun. That's four years of practicing in the spread.
And you call me revisionist?
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And you say he arrived to a team with a bunch of people who had championship rings? What an absolute load of shite. Almost no one on the 2011 team had anything, ANYTHING to do with those championship teams.
When did I say they did? I said they were present with the unit which is absolutely true. We had a championship three years before he came, a lot of players were apart of that team even if their contribution was negligible. That's no excuse for the poor showing.
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You want to talk about a coach that wouldn't ever adapt? Look at the great Urban meyer in 2005 and 2010. He didn't have the right QB for his system, and in both seasons, UF was mired in mediocrity. If you took the 2010 team, hit them with the 2013 injuries, and had them play the 2013 schedule, UF would have been just as bad, if not worse. That team and that staff was ridiculously dysfunctional.
Championships excuse these, dude.
Blowing the Sugar Bowl does not.
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I'm not blindly supporting anyone. I have big problems and concerns about Muschamp, but I also won't blindly bash the guy either. And despite what you think about your "logic" (which has been mostly misremembered revisionist BS) you haven't said anything very concrete other than, oh he lost to Georgia Southern and Louisville.
Almost lost to ULL.
Vandy at homecoming.
Destroyed by Missouri.
Toyed with by LSU.
Strangled by FSU.
Embarrassed by Miami.
I'm sorry man, but after a 4 and 8 season if you can sit there with a straight face and say that I don't have anything else, you're absolutely delusional.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
How many yrs did Meyer coach Floyd, Easley, Bostic, Jenkins, and Elam?
UF won games in '12 with TOP and field position.
The main flaw in your entire argument is you discredit WM's coaching at every turn, yet you want to give him full credit for 8 losses.
Also, you are VERY wrong about the defensive scheme and recruits he has brought to UF. 3 straight yrs with a top 10
Defense. Not sure when the last time/if ever that has happened.
I'm not sold on WM being the answer yet, but I give him credit for '12 and the job he and his staff did. So many games that year that I was wow'd by the halftime adjustments.
In '13, he gets the blame. First off, he lost to Miami. Something that should have never happened. Yes, UF turned the ball over a ton, but still lost the game. The rest of the games are meaningless to me because we were playing with Murphy or Mornhinweg, who both sucked. Fast forward to GA Southern, you CANNOT lose that game. Well, UF lost, and that falls squarely on the shoulders of WM. We had guys hurt, etc, don't give a shite, no excuses for losing that game.
Now we are in '14 with the majority of WM recruits and an offensive scheme that will be a hybrid between Fedora and Mullen. This is judgement year.
Your argument is invalid if you make excuses for all the wins in '12, but don't make excuses for the losses in '13.
UF won games in '12 with TOP and field position.
The main flaw in your entire argument is you discredit WM's coaching at every turn, yet you want to give him full credit for 8 losses.
Also, you are VERY wrong about the defensive scheme and recruits he has brought to UF. 3 straight yrs with a top 10
Defense. Not sure when the last time/if ever that has happened.
I'm not sold on WM being the answer yet, but I give him credit for '12 and the job he and his staff did. So many games that year that I was wow'd by the halftime adjustments.
In '13, he gets the blame. First off, he lost to Miami. Something that should have never happened. Yes, UF turned the ball over a ton, but still lost the game. The rest of the games are meaningless to me because we were playing with Murphy or Mornhinweg, who both sucked. Fast forward to GA Southern, you CANNOT lose that game. Well, UF lost, and that falls squarely on the shoulders of WM. We had guys hurt, etc, don't give a shite, no excuses for losing that game.
Now we are in '14 with the majority of WM recruits and an offensive scheme that will be a hybrid between Fedora and Mullen. This is judgement year.
Your argument is invalid if you make excuses for all the wins in '12, but don't make excuses for the losses in '13.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:11 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Have you ever hired someone? Sometimes you do all your research, do the interview, everything seems like its gonna be great, and you start working together and it doesn't work out. That was Weis and Muschamp. It happens. It's ultimately Muschamp's fault, but his plan in hiring Weis wasn't bad. And they would have thrown the ball a lot more in 2011 had Brantley not been injured. I mean, how do you reconcile, that with Brantley at QB, UF scored more on Alabama in 2 quarters than LSU did in 8 quarters?
Pease, on the other hand, in retrospect, had a lot of people fooled. If he look at his history at Uk and Baylor, you would see a history of shitty offenses. He had a good year at Boise State, which got him looked at by the big boys, but that was basically it.
Muschamp's biggest failuers, IMO, have been the ability to put together a cohesive offensive staff and his failure in the 2012 recruiting class to address the major holes left behind by the previous head coach.
Those two errors, coupled with a string of hilarious bad luck unlike anything I've seen in recent sports history during the 2013 season, resulted in a catastrophic losing season, instead of just a normal mediocre 6-6 shitty season like it probably should have been given the injuries and the strength of the schedule.
He has recruited better in 2013 and 2014, and he has one more chance to put together a good offensive staff. He seems to have made the right moves. We'll know by the end of October either way.
Regarding the games you keep listing:
ULL - he won
Miami - 5 fricken turnovers, WTH are you gonna do? His 2012 team took very good care of the football. The only legit bad coaching move I remember from that game was not calling time out on the 4th down conversion that failed. I mean ultimately, you have to blame the head coach for everything, but when your players just keep fricking up and not taking care of the ball, wtf are you gonna do? The same thing has happened to every coach we've ever had.
LSU - was a healthy 10-3 team. At home, with one of the best QB's in the league. UF had Tyler Murphy. They lost Damien Jacobs early and were hurting for DL depth. It was 14-6 in the 4th quarter. UF had chances to win that game, they were not toyed with.
Mizzou - Murphy played the game injured, the offense was a total shite show, Ronald Powell, AND Damien Jacobs were both out, so UF's DL depth was shite. Cody Riggs gets a BS targeting ejection on the first play. Even with all this BS, UF was down 23-17 before the defense ran out of gas in the 4th quarter.
Vanderbilt - Your 2nd string QB has the worst game of his life, throws a bunch of really bad INTS that gives your opponent amazing field position and leads to short TD's. UF outgained vandy like 343-182 in yards. It was just a shite show of turnovers.
South Carolina - faced an 11-2 team on the road with a third string QB, and almost won. I don't see how you can fault him for anything there.
FSU - 14-0 national champs. Heisman QB. Are you shitting me? Vs Skyler Morninhweg and UF's beat up team? Think about the bad luck from last year. They designed a wildcat attack specifically for Trey Burton in that game. 2nd rush of the game, he goes for 50 yards, only to get injured for the rest of the game. BAD LUCK.
The games I'll give you where I legit feel UF should have won and I felt he did a shite job: Auburn 2011, Louisville 2012, Georgia 2013, GSU 2013. I could make a list like this for Meyer too. And Spurrier. Against weaker schedules with better teams.
And I'm not making excuses or anything. It would be a different story had UF been fully healthy in those games, but they werent. He did what he could with what he had. I feel at best, he should have been 6-6 with that situation.
Pease, on the other hand, in retrospect, had a lot of people fooled. If he look at his history at Uk and Baylor, you would see a history of shitty offenses. He had a good year at Boise State, which got him looked at by the big boys, but that was basically it.
Muschamp's biggest failuers, IMO, have been the ability to put together a cohesive offensive staff and his failure in the 2012 recruiting class to address the major holes left behind by the previous head coach.
Those two errors, coupled with a string of hilarious bad luck unlike anything I've seen in recent sports history during the 2013 season, resulted in a catastrophic losing season, instead of just a normal mediocre 6-6 shitty season like it probably should have been given the injuries and the strength of the schedule.
He has recruited better in 2013 and 2014, and he has one more chance to put together a good offensive staff. He seems to have made the right moves. We'll know by the end of October either way.
Regarding the games you keep listing:
ULL - he won
Miami - 5 fricken turnovers, WTH are you gonna do? His 2012 team took very good care of the football. The only legit bad coaching move I remember from that game was not calling time out on the 4th down conversion that failed. I mean ultimately, you have to blame the head coach for everything, but when your players just keep fricking up and not taking care of the ball, wtf are you gonna do? The same thing has happened to every coach we've ever had.
LSU - was a healthy 10-3 team. At home, with one of the best QB's in the league. UF had Tyler Murphy. They lost Damien Jacobs early and were hurting for DL depth. It was 14-6 in the 4th quarter. UF had chances to win that game, they were not toyed with.
Mizzou - Murphy played the game injured, the offense was a total shite show, Ronald Powell, AND Damien Jacobs were both out, so UF's DL depth was shite. Cody Riggs gets a BS targeting ejection on the first play. Even with all this BS, UF was down 23-17 before the defense ran out of gas in the 4th quarter.
Vanderbilt - Your 2nd string QB has the worst game of his life, throws a bunch of really bad INTS that gives your opponent amazing field position and leads to short TD's. UF outgained vandy like 343-182 in yards. It was just a shite show of turnovers.
South Carolina - faced an 11-2 team on the road with a third string QB, and almost won. I don't see how you can fault him for anything there.
FSU - 14-0 national champs. Heisman QB. Are you shitting me? Vs Skyler Morninhweg and UF's beat up team? Think about the bad luck from last year. They designed a wildcat attack specifically for Trey Burton in that game. 2nd rush of the game, he goes for 50 yards, only to get injured for the rest of the game. BAD LUCK.
The games I'll give you where I legit feel UF should have won and I felt he did a shite job: Auburn 2011, Louisville 2012, Georgia 2013, GSU 2013. I could make a list like this for Meyer too. And Spurrier. Against weaker schedules with better teams.
And I'm not making excuses or anything. It would be a different story had UF been fully healthy in those games, but they werent. He did what he could with what he had. I feel at best, he should have been 6-6 with that situation.
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:12 pm to gatordmb89
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Your argument is invalid if you make excuses for all the wins in '12, but don't make excuses for the losses in '13.
fricking this
Posted on 8/2/14 at 10:15 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Pease wasn't forced to call anything. Where do you get this information? WM isn't involved in any of the offensive play calls during the game. He does sit in on the installation of the gameplan though.
UF ran the same O that was ran at Boise. Just not near as successful because the blocking scheme was a horrible fit in the SEC and UF had Driskel who isn't a pocket passing QB (this is not only Pease' fault, but WM for hiring Pease in the first place).
UF ran the same O that was ran at Boise. Just not near as successful because the blocking scheme was a horrible fit in the SEC and UF had Driskel who isn't a pocket passing QB (this is not only Pease' fault, but WM for hiring Pease in the first place).
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