re: What record saves Muschamp's job?

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I love Will. He could survive 7 if he beats Georgia. He better beat them IMO.

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Other teams love him quite a bit.

I don't think 7 will get him to survive, though, honestly. 8 at the least and a victory over Georgia. Really, that is the only game that he must absolutely win. We've dominated them for a long time...until he came.

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I know he meant in the regular season but I think I could see him surviving a 7 - 5 season with a bowl victory.

There are several games where we will be heavy underdogs (quite a few) and I actually think he deserves a pass if we play and don't get blown out.

Honestly, if he loses by 21 points in any game I don't expect him to stay around for long. I said before that I don't mind losing (that much) -- I mind getting the frick beaten out of us and not even showing up for the game.

Dont forget to mention a kicker that couldnt hit the gotdamn Gulf of Mexico if he was standing on the beach.

Yeah but I am talking more PCB.

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want him to be fired if he is 8-4 and loses to UG.

I want him to stay if he's 8-4 and beats UG.

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It's bizarre that we said the exact same fricking thing.

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I don't think 7 will get him to survive, though, honestly. 8 at the least and a victory over Georgia. Really, that is the only game that he must absolutely win.

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But you can sit there and bitch and moan about how anti-Will Muschamp I am.

You guys need to stop dickridin' this guy so hard.

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Last year was not fair to judge his HC skills on at all. Anyone that does is a chode. That is just my opinion based on 3 OTs being injured, a walk-on LB starting some games, a 4th string QB starting some games, #1 RB going down, starting RG with a torn pec and having no one to replace him worth a shite, an insanely talented DT going down, no ability to rest the defense because the offense sucks..

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UF has lost 10 players for the season, including seven starters. On Saturday, a total of 18 scholarship players were unavailable due to injury.

The Eagles (GA Southern) have lost 19 players to injury this season, and their scholarship limit is 65 per FCS rules.

The injuries aren't an excuse, my God.

They lost more players, had less players and didn't complete a single pass.

If you seriously think that this has nothing to do with a man's head coaching ability you are blind.

I can't believe you can sit there and cry about me being biased while that glaring contradiction is staring you right in your eye.

Nice. I went to Liberty. Graduated in 1996. Got out of there and was gone for a while and then took a job there in 2011-2012. I then moved to Savannah. My dad is still a lawyer in Hinesville.

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Jeff - 6'4" and 235 I do believe I saw recently Tim - 6'3" and 240 in 2008 Pretty close.

Really? Huh. I guess he just looks a lot lankier to me then Tebow. Maybe I just saw too many games of Tebow running over our LB's.

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Of course I am looking at everythi8ng with orange and blue tinted glasses....but you seem genuine in wanting to know more about your rival....well, heers more than you ever really wanted to know and I will point out my reasons for optimism (which isn't shared by many Gator faithful btw)

QB you need to google the Under Armour High School AA game in 2011 to see Jeffs extraordinary abilities...he has been unfairly classified as a mediocre QB and that is far from the truth. Watch the SPEED he possessed in that AA game...he can flat out run...second...look at the pass he threw while on the run being chased that went 70 yds and the WR dropped it. Jeff has had terrible luck at UF...not just because of injuries...but because of timing. Remember he enrolled early in 2011 and was true frosh...our starting QB Brantley suffered bad injury early in the year (Bama game)...in trots Jeff as tr frosh against an NFL defense....he does have one great play where he escapes pass rush and runs for about 30 yds. Anyway...Jeff gets injured also and played only a small portion of season later in the year because Brantley returned...but r/s ing was not possible per NCAA rules.

In 2012 he split reps with another young QB through spring, summer workouts and fall camp before being announced asa starter after first game, Driskel led us to a W on the road against A&M in their first ever SEC game as a member (thanks Slive) with College Gameday looking on...Jeff made key passes and runs ansd with Gillislee running and our defense we won after being behind in 2nd half. Gameday followed us to Knoxvegas and Driskel was named SEC Offensive Player of the Week afterwards. 2012 was a year when all we needed was to maintain field position and let our defense/run game win for us (remember Gillislee tigah fans and having to face 7 OL in second half pounding the ball?)

In 2013 we faced the Univ of New Jawsey @ Coral Gables in their rented stadium...Jeff threw for 297 yds...our run game was hampered by injury to Gillislees RB heir...Matt Jones and a suspension to a DB that cost us a TD early in the game. A few games later Jeff breaks his leg...but does get redshirted.

2014 is going to be different....Jeff is almost as big as Tebow...slightly taller and faster. He has been in the film room and learning while also conditioning his body. He wont be that easy to bring down. WR corp will be GREATLY improved, as Fulwood and Robinson now have a year under their belts...add in Dunlap, Andre Debose, Chris Thompson etc etc and we will be fine...if the TE transfer is as good as advertised...then offense gets really potent. RBs are stacked...Kelvin Taylor now has that year under his belt, Matt Jones will be featured as a H back type and we have the powderkeg RB Lane who is a r/s frosh and moves piles and refuses to go down. OL? Solid first six to seven players and then we have youth with no experience. 2013 saw so many injuries and the OL was badly hit early and often.

You can laugh all you want....but Driskel will be media darling by years end. The Gators have been disrespected by the media and they will be coming out of the tunnel angry.

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The tough thing about Muschamp right now is, in back-to-back years, he had both one of the best and one of the worst seasons in UF history.

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Getting blasted by a Big East team in the Sugar Bowl and losing the SEC East to our bitter rival ain't exactly something that's a good highlight.

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Which one is more representative of him as a coach?

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I'd say losing to an FCS and going 4 - 8 with a team that is consistently top 15 recruiting classes is more indicative personally.

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8 wins, with an improved offense, will save his job. And if the offense really does improve, I doubt UF only wins 8 anyways.

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We have a difficult year coming up -- personally I think he should be allowed 7 wins because we do have three teams that have gone to the NCG in the last five years on our schedule. (Two of them have won it all.)

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UF has had a top 10 defense every year Muschamp has been here. All he needs to do is find an offense and UF will be just as powerful as Alabama.

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I don't think we've had a year where we didn't have a top 10 defense -- that part of the team was absolutely stacked for him when he came in. Almost every star on our team was a Meyer dude.

All Muschamp had to do when he came in is have an offense with a breath of life.

And I have to make sure that this next argument doesn't come up ever again (because I'm personally tired of hearing it).

We all know Georgia Southern had more injured players, inferior talent, less players overall and inferior size and still beat us, right?

So the injury excuse isn't a good one? Alright, thanks.

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Getting blasted by a Big East team in the Sugar Bowl and losing the SEC East to our bitter rival ain't exactly something that's a good highlight.

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Muschamp played 6 teams that finished ranked in the top 15 and beat 4 of them. One of the best coaching jobs of the modern era. Les Miles played 5 such teams in 2011 and went 4-1. Only other coach in the modern era to win 4 such games, I believe. That wasn't an "accident."

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I'd say losing to an FCS and going 4 - 8 with a team that is consistently top 15 recruiting classes is more indicative personally.

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Perhaps. One could certainly argue that he had "lost" the team by that point. Certainly a bad mark on his coaching resume, but it's sort of unfair to look at an entire career of a person and give him a label based on one bad game. In retrospect, we would be measuring Saban off his worst loss to ULM? Come on...

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We have a difficult year coming up -- personally I think he should be allowed 7 wins because we do have three teams that have gone to the NCG in the last five years on our schedule. (Two of them have won it all.)

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8 wins. His recruiting classes have been good, his only issues have been management and offensive staff issues. He corrects those and 8 wins should be the minimum. UF should be the clear favorite in 6 games this year, and a good coach should be able to win 2 of the remaining 6 games, especially since 3 are at home and 5 are in the state of Florida, where UF historically plays very well.

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I don't think we've had a year where we didn't have a top 10 defense -- that part of the team was absolutely stacked for him when he came in. Almost every star on our team was a Meyer dude.

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In that case I guess the 2006 national championship is all because of Ron Zook... stupid logic. Muschamp coached them up!

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All Muschamp had to do when he came in is have an offense with a breath of life.

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Actually this is totally fricking false. He had to clean up a program that was in complete disarray, with the inmates running the asylum. Consider the behavior of our players now vs. when he came in. Night and day.

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So the injury excuse isn't a good one? Alright, thanks.

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Injuries are not an excuse for the loss to Georgia southern. They contributed, but UF still should have won that game, regardless.

Injuries are one of the primary reasons that UF lost to LSU, Missouri, Vandy, South Carolina, Georgia, FSU etc... Last season was an epic disaster of critical injuries and bad luck. Consider that UF's opponents hit 22-23 of their fGs, 8-8 from beyond 40 yards, and the only one they missed UF blocked! Things just didn't go UF's way last year, and they had the bulk of their very bad injuries against the meat of their very difficult schedule. That matters. Everyone has injuries, sure, but not everyone has to play their third string QB while fielding their 4th and 5th team OTs while facing 4 teams that won 10 or more games.

The last thing I'll say, and yes, the Georgia southern fiasco is really bad, and terrible, but it is ONE GAME. You can't judge a coach based on one game, or even one bad season. You have to look at the body of work. 2014 will tell the tale.

And cut out that "alright, thanks" bullshite. It makes you sound like a douche.