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Coaching search: Who do we look for?
Posted on 9/19/15 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 9/19/15 at 9:49 pm
Do we try to get someone like Chad Morris?
What kind of contract does James Franklin have with PSU?
As long as it isn't the other Stoops bro I don't really care. Anyone can do better than this.
What kind of contract does James Franklin have with PSU?
As long as it isn't the other Stoops bro I don't really care. Anyone can do better than this.
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Posted on 9/19/15 at 9:59 pm to TiptonInSC
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someone like Chad Morris?
Maybe in the sense of a smaller school coach, but not Chad Morris, unless he has a tremendous season. They'll get someone who's a proven winner.
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What kind of contract does James Franklin have with PSU?
Probably safe to say that he gets paid well and there's a clause permitting rape.
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As long as it isn't the other Stoops bro I don't really care. Anyone can do better than this.
We could be much worse, like Toledo worse, but we could/should be better with that 2010-2013 run we had.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 10:16 pm to TiptonInSC
I'd like to get a defensive minded coach.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 10:52 pm to Cockopotamus
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I'd like to get a defensive minded coach.
That's always been Carolina's identity. The 33-6 run was due to nasty defense and timely offense. Before that, Holtz's best teams were predicated on strong defense and no offense whatsoever.
I wouldn't be shocked, at all, to see Strong here after UT lets him go. He's a bad fit in Austin, but that doesn't preclude him from doing well here.
Real talk: is it better to go the coordinator route (Smart, Foster, etc.), the established-at-a-smaller-school route (Fuente, Hudspeth, Herman), or the bad-fit-or-NFL-coach route (Schiano, Strong)?
Posted on 9/19/15 at 11:12 pm to RoyalAir
I'd like to see Strong here. He's a bad fit for UT but like you said that doesn't mean he'll be a bad fit here.
The biggest reasons he'd be a fit here is that he is a defensive guy and he's known for recruiting the southeast.
The biggest reasons he'd be a fit here is that he is a defensive guy and he's known for recruiting the southeast.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 11:15 pm to TiptonInSC
Manning
Posted on 9/19/15 at 11:19 pm to CarolinaCock
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Manning
Peyton? He'll probably never be a coach. He's too good on TV to leave it. ESPN, Fox, NBC, CBS will all give him anything he wants to step into the booth at the end of the year. Put him with Gruden and antagonize the UTK fans every week.
Posted on 9/19/15 at 11:28 pm to TiptonInSC
Chad Morris
Toledo's coach? NIU's coach?
Toledo's coach? NIU's coach?
Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:14 am to RoyalAir
You never know
Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:37 am to TiptonInSC
Kirby Smart please
Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:39 am to CNB
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by CNB
Kirby Smart please
Posted on 9/20/15 at 12:41 am to Cockopotamus
I know. I have no idea. I don't pretend to know.
Who would even want to come here?
Who would even want to come here?
Posted on 9/20/15 at 2:03 am to CNB
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Who would even want to come here?
Charlie Strong is a realistic option if he is fired after the season. Gary Patterson is the unrealistic prayer.
But shite, I'd be alright with giving Shane Beamer a shot as head coach.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 6:57 am to CNB
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Who would even want to come here?
We're all pissed now because of the game, but this is still a good job. Spurrier showed what is actually possible here. Some of that "you can't win there" stigma is gone.
I don't think USC will have as hard of a time as UTK did after Dooley was fired. The program has been stable for a decade, has money, has massive infrastructure improvements, and is one of only a handful of high-profile jobs open in the off-season.
I like Beamer, but I have concern that he'd leave if VaTech calls when his dad retires. It's impossible to overlook how fortunate we are that Spurrier stayed here. I'd want a coach who saw this as a destination job. Beamer may not, but Strong probably would. For that reason, I'm not wholly against promoting Elliott; he and Mangus are the only guys on staff who consistently pull their own weight.
I also really like Fuente at Memphis, and Hudspeth at La-La.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:27 am to RoyalAir
I think we have to give Dantonio a call. I highly doubt he leaves Michigan St., but it's worth a shot. I love Gary Patterson, but he ain't leaving TCU for nobody. Strong would be a good fit if Texas lets him go by then. Another guy I really like and is realistic is Steve Addazio at BC. His teams always play inspired defense and have a strong running game. Plus he was Meyer's number 2 at Florida during their golden years, so he knows what it takes to build a winning program in the SEC.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:34 am to goodshotred2
I agree with you. You have to make Dantonio say no. I fully expect him to, but still, he's probably the first call.
Addazio is another guy I think is a good fit. Like you say, he can recruit the area, and he's done a lot with no recruiting base at BC.
Addazio is another guy I think is a good fit. Like you say, he can recruit the area, and he's done a lot with no recruiting base at BC.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:01 am to CNB
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I know. I have no idea. I don't pretend to know.
Who would even want to come here?
That's exactly how I feel.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:14 am to RoyalAir
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We're all pissed now because of the game, but this is still a good job. Spurrier showed what is actually possible here. Some of that "you can't win there" stigma is gone.
very true. it's also easier to reach Atlanta coaching in the SEC East.
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I don't think USC will have as hard of a time as UTK did after Dooley was fired.
without at doubt. Ray Tanner may not be the most experienced AD in a P5 conference but he's light years ahead of Tater Hamilton and dipshit Dave Hart. Ray is also respected around college athletics unlike either of the two clowns Hamilton/Hart. Carolina also doesn't have the financial problems of UTK either.
as far as who Carolina may look for...
Gary Patterson & Chip Kelly get my first 2 calls.
Tom Herman/Houston (40) - Cincinnati OH native that is off to a good start at Houston, but 1 season as a HC may not be enough of a sample size to determine success at any SEC school. Herman's experience is all as a coordinator in college. I question his high school recruiting ties as he played small college FB in CA and never coached at the HS level.
Justin Fuente/Memphis (39) - Tulsa OK native that has Patterson ties. 13-3 at Memphis after winning 7 of 24 to start. UM was 3-21 before he took the job. former OU qb who finished his career at Murray State.
Joey Jones/South Alabama (52) - Mobile native played WR for Bear. successful and known HS coach in AL with deep recruiting ties. USA was a start-up program that Jones built and elevated to FBS in just 8 total seasons.
my darkhorse...
Bill Clark/UAB (47) - Anniston native and son of AL high school coaching legend. he also won state titles coaching HS ball in AL. former Jacksonville State Gamecock QB and successful JSU HC before taking over the disaster at the Medical School in B'ham. posted a winning record in his first year at UAB before it was disbanded, and now restarting again next season. like Jones, he has many deep recruiting ties in Alabama high school football.
UAB Football - recent
2007–2011 Neil Callaway 5 18–42 .300
2012–2013 Garrick McGee 2 5–19 .208
2014–present Bill Clark 1 6–6 .500
both Joey Jones and Bill Clark have had to be involved with every aspect of building/overseeing/operating a football program with resources nowhere near what Carolina offers.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 2:28 pm to 1801
I don't think spurrier will be done after this season. I think we will find who our good players are and spurrier will give it one more shot next year.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 2:31 pm to RoyalAir
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but this is still a good job.
Not to mention the facilities that are brand new. Spurrier built a great platform, but he did himself in with the 2-3 remarks. We use that platform with a new surge in recruiting that a new coach can bring and we'll be alright.
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