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re: Coaching search: Who do we look for?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:47 pm to Cockopotamus
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:47 pm to Cockopotamus
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if you read this thread you would know that your comments about Strong didn't affect me and I'm on board the Shane Beamer pain train
Yet your first coach mentioned on this thread was…
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Cockopotamus
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Member since Jan 2013
re: Coaching search: Who do we look for?(Posted on 9/19/15 at 11:12 pm to RoyalAir)
I'd like to see Strong here. He's a bad fit for UT but like you said that doesn't mean he'll be a bad fit here.
The biggest reasons he'd be a fit here is that he is a defensive guy and he's known for recruiting the southeast.
Even in your next post you were still pro Strong and only mention Beamer as an afterthought
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Cockopotamus
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re: Coaching search: Who do we look for?(Posted on 9/20/15 at 2:03 am to CNB)
Charlie Strong is a realistic option if he is fired after the season. Gary Patterson is the unrealistic prayer.
But shite, I'd be alright with giving Shane Beamer a shot as head coach.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement
Maybe if I put it in CAPS and BOLD it will sink in…
I HAVE NO PROBLEM DISCUSSING THIS FACE TO FACE
I HAVE A PROBLEM POSTING THIS ON A PUBLIC FORUM
Is this clear enough?
ps, I believe I actually said I could make a educated guess and had been correct in the Spurrier hire.
Move on dude.
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:55 pm to Cheese Grits
It is just hilariously stupid of you to think you posting a name would somehow affect what happens. Especially since you claim to come by your conclusions not by connections, but educated guesses.
You're level of delusion is truly the most astonishing case I've ever seen. I thought nothing would top the levels of delusion coming out of Knoxville in the preseason but here you've already surpassed that.
You're level of delusion is truly the most astonishing case I've ever seen. I thought nothing would top the levels of delusion coming out of Knoxville in the preseason but here you've already surpassed that.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 9/23/15 at 12:45 pm to Cheese Grits
I did after i typed that reply. Feel stupid now.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:07 pm to Foolish cock
Really is one of my favorite MP clips but most folks never watched LoB so I sneak clips in now and again on tRant.
As I set it up as the SI clip you would naturally have been expecting it. If it is going to be a true surprise it would have to be when you least expect it.
It is like the Rabbit of Caerbannog when he takes off the head.
As I set it up as the SI clip you would naturally have been expecting it. If it is going to be a true surprise it would have to be when you least expect it.
It is like the Rabbit of Caerbannog when he takes off the head.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:01 pm to TiptonInSC
Anyone who doesn't go after Chad Morris is a fool in my opinion. He made Clemson and improved smu two fold overnight with the same talent.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:03 pm to Cheese Grits
You guys really, really don't want Strong.
He has turned Texas into a complete abortion. He would put USC back to pre-spurrier.
He has turned Texas into a complete abortion. He would put USC back to pre-spurrier.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:36 pm to Warrior Poet
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He has turned Texas into a complete abortion. He would put USC back to pre-spurrier.
But he also helped Louisville reemerge and a lot of Gamecocks love him from the great defenses he gave us in the early Holtz years.
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Anyone who doesn't go after Chad Morris is a fool in my opinion.
Would be awesome. We owe Clemson that after the Brad Scott episode.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 5:50 am to theGarnetWay
USC is a big name job. Morris is completely reasonable
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:29 am to Warrior Poet
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Morris is completely reasonable
I think Morris at SMU is kinda like Briles at Baylor, or Patterson at TCU - it's a destination job for him. He's from Texas, has ties to Texas, and now he's back in Texas. I'm not suggesting that SMU is a more high-profile gig than USC, just that I think this is more of a fit for him.
I don't expect him to be a serious candidate if Spurrier is gone at the end of the year.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 8:30 am
Posted on 9/24/15 at 12:36 pm to Cheese Grits
Ah yes. Love the rabbit biting off the head. "That is a foul creature".
Posted on 9/24/15 at 2:09 pm to Foolish cock
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Love the rabbit biting off the head.
You didn't click did you?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 5:23 pm to Cheese Grits
Fuente's team (Memphis) is on tonight for the Thursday night nationally televised game, may tune in seeing as he's a possible name that's been floating around that we'd look at.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:41 pm to CayceCock13
Names I've Heard That Make Sense, IMO
Chip Kelly
Dan Mullen
Gus Malzahn (Their badmen are hard to beat though.)
Kirby Smart - I'd gamble with his 1st HC position here.
Gary Patterson - make him give an answer
Diantonio - make him say no, although his buyout is unreal, so this is even slimmer of a chance than Patterson.
Tom Herman - Gotta bring a badass DC with him.
Nick Saban - Why not, 3 HOF coaches in a row.
Bill Cowher - Lives in NC now.
Dave Doeren - If they can get to 10 wins this year and we need to get him help in recruiting coaches.
Names I'm Still on The Fence About
Chad Morris (bad record at Williams Brice)
Larry Fedora - Leaning towards "no thanks"
Fuente
Doc Holliday (if he puts together another double digit win season, he should be considered.)
Names I Heard That Made Me Laugh
Mack Brown
Lame Kitten
Butch Davis
Bubba (frick no)
James Franklin - too much rape
Charlie Strong - failing at his job now.
Al Golden
Mangus is the only guy on staff now that even would remotely deserve consideration, but I don't think that's going to happen for him.
Chip Kelly
Dan Mullen
Gus Malzahn (Their badmen are hard to beat though.)
Kirby Smart - I'd gamble with his 1st HC position here.
Gary Patterson - make him give an answer
Diantonio - make him say no, although his buyout is unreal, so this is even slimmer of a chance than Patterson.
Tom Herman - Gotta bring a badass DC with him.
Nick Saban - Why not, 3 HOF coaches in a row.
Bill Cowher - Lives in NC now.
Dave Doeren - If they can get to 10 wins this year and we need to get him help in recruiting coaches.
Names I'm Still on The Fence About
Chad Morris (bad record at Williams Brice)
Larry Fedora - Leaning towards "no thanks"
Fuente
Doc Holliday (if he puts together another double digit win season, he should be considered.)
Names I Heard That Made Me Laugh
Mack Brown
Lame Kitten
Butch Davis
Bubba (frick no)
James Franklin - too much rape
Charlie Strong - failing at his job now.
Al Golden
Mangus is the only guy on staff now that even would remotely deserve consideration, but I don't think that's going to happen for him.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:03 pm to CockInYourEar
defensive minded coaches tend to not do as well, Saban is the exception, not the rule
do y'all want another "proven winner" like Spurrier or someone young and fresh?
I think Kirby Smart would be a bad hire
Grabbing someone successful from the lower ranks, like UF has done with CUM & CJM seems like a better option IMO
And I am still not convinced that CSS is gone after this year
do y'all want another "proven winner" like Spurrier or someone young and fresh?
I think Kirby Smart would be a bad hire
Grabbing someone successful from the lower ranks, like UF has done with CUM & CJM seems like a better option IMO
And I am still not convinced that CSS is gone after this year
Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:44 pm to RoyalAir
As an Aggie, I'm telling you SMU is not his destination job. A&M is, and he wants to play in the SEC. He started as a high school coach in Aggieland. He has hinted a number of times his love for A&M.
Smu is just his first HC opportunity. Nothing more.
He would go to USC, a contender in the east, in a heartbeat. I don't see any scenario where this is not a reasonable thought.
You guys would have a hard time keeping him if A&M of Texas job comes open though, because I do think he would prefer to be in Texas where he is most comfortable recruiting.
Smu is just his first HC opportunity. Nothing more.
He would go to USC, a contender in the east, in a heartbeat. I don't see any scenario where this is not a reasonable thought.
You guys would have a hard time keeping him if A&M of Texas job comes open though, because I do think he would prefer to be in Texas where he is most comfortable recruiting.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 9/25/15 at 8:52 am to Warrior Poet
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You guys would have a hard time keeping him if A&M of Texas job comes open though, because I do think he would prefer to be in Texas where he is most comfortable recruiting.
I think the days of intra-conference coaching moves are over. I'd heard rumblings that Slive basically told the ADs that other SEC head coaches were off-limits in their hiring searches. I can't think of a coach that was hired away to another SEC program since Tubervile went to Auburn 15 years ago. If this is true, then Morris can't really wait for the aTm job to open by taking the head gig at Carolina.
Please don't misunderstand me- I think Morris makes a lot of sense, especially with his experience and connections recruiting in the Carolinas. But I would be surprised to see him emerge as a serious candidate, especially if the Texas job is open at the end of the year.
Regarding other candidates, I read the other day on CT that Beamer was essentially fired by Spurrier, and that he didn't leave on great terms- much like Jay Graham, who was expecting to get the recruiting coordinator gig, but was passed over for Jr. This was a repost with Morrell confirming the account. If so, WTF. That's completely inexcusable.
Stevie is creating a pretty big mess here.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 9:00 am to dcbl
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Grabbing someone successful from the lower ranks, like UF has done with CUM & CJM seems like a better option IMO
Either this, or the young/hungry coordinator route.
Coaches in the former category that have been mentioned are:
Doc Holliday (probably too old)
Mark Hudspeth
Joey Jones
Tom Herman
Justin Fuente
Chad Morris
In the latter:
Shane Beamer
Kirby Smart
Rhett Lashlee
Tee Martin
My personal favorites are Beamer, Hudspeth, Fuente, and Herman.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 11:23 am to RoyalAir
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much like Jay Graham, who was expecting to get the recruiting coordinator gig, but was passed over for Jr.
One of the biggest mistakes of the Spurrier era.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:33 pm to RoyalAir
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Beamer was essentially fired by Spurrier, and that he didn't leave on great terms- much like Jay Graham, who was expecting to get the recruiting coordinator gig, but was passed over for Jr. This was a repost with Morrell confirming the account.
Can we just go ahead and fire Spurrier instead of praying that he retires?
Posted on 9/25/15 at 1:52 pm to Cockopotamus
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Can we just go ahead and fire Spurrier instead of praying that he retires?
They won't fire him unless he completely bottoms out, below not making a bowl game even. I don't think that's going to happen.
We didn't have the easiest stretch of opening games and we're still trying to find how the players fit. We could still put forth a decent product if the right adjustments are on the way. A bunch of asst coaches contracts are up after this season, and we'll see some new asst coaches. I still think Spurrier is capable of turning the ship, but I'll revaluate that game by game.
Plus, we shouldn't just fire him mid season without the other chips in place. We need to have the right feelers out and the right handshake deals made, and then let the chips fall.
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