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re: Pick plays illegal?
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:10 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:10 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
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The Bama DB's engaged and attempted to jam the WR's right at the line of scrimmage
There no press coverage on the goal line. The Wr didn't even pretend to run the route he ran straight to the defender knees. He got down on all fours and went a block.
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:14 pm to BhamDore
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The Wr didn't even pretend to run the route he ran straight to the defender knees. He got down on all fours and went a block.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:16 pm to OliverQueen81
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Did I miss something?
Just a fundamental understanding of football. A true pick (as in intentional interference by WR of a defender covering another WR) is a penalty (offensive PI to be exact). However if the official deems it not to be intentional but rather just the consequences of running the route then it's not a penalty. It's usually a pretty tough judgement call. I don't think the last TD by Clemson was offensive PI and agree it should not have been called. The touchdown to Williams earlier was a lot closer and I personally think that could have been called offensive PI, but I don't have a big issue with it either - it's a judgment call by the officials.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:25 pm to BhamDore
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There no press coverage on the goal line. The Wr didn't even pretend to run the route he ran straight to the defender knees. He got down on all fours and went a block
The DB has his hands wrapped around the WR's shoulder pads and the WR falls forward.
On the first TD, the DB has his hands wrapped around the WR as well.
The inside DB is the player responsible for not getting out in coverage properly
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:34 pm to Spirit Of Aggieland
His used his hands to prevent the WR from blocking his knees. If a Bama DB is jamming him he wouldn't fall forward. He didn't attempt a route he went for a low block.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:36 pm to BhamDore
It is just as easy to say that the Bama DB pulled him down as he was running his route.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:37 pm to OliverQueen81
I honestly can't believe that people are saying there was no pick on the last play.. the WR clearly had intentions of picking the corner
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:37 pm to BhamDore
Damn you are struggling writing tonight.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:40 pm to OliverQueen81
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Call me stupid, what is the difference?
When the flag is thrown
But for real the idea is to make it difficult for the corner to get around the WR running his route.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:42 pm to Zchlsu
On a new mobile and I'm still using the stock keyboard sorry.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 5:46 pm to Mr. Hangover
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I honestly can't believe that people are saying there was no pick on the last play.. the WR clearly had intentions of picking the corner
Nah. It's obvious the intention was to cause traffic for Brown to get around and that worked but that's not illegal. They might have called it had Scott made that kind of contact with Brown (the guy covering Renfroe) but he didn't he locked up with his own man (Humphrey) and from the official's point of view Humphrey was responsible for that contact as much as Scott.
You have a better argument for an illegal pick on the earlier TD to Williams. Last play was a good no call.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:00 pm to BhamDore
It's cover zero man. If they are playing off u are asking to be chopped up. The point of cover zero is 6 vs 5. Somebody is coming free for the pressure. You want to jam up the WR to make sure the free defender gets home.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:00 pm to elposter
The first play was not a pick.. the second one clearly was
Can't believe we lost on a frickin no call, Clempson had no business being in the game, should have been a blowout if bo wasn't hurt
Can't believe we lost on a frickin no call, Clempson had no business being in the game, should have been a blowout if bo wasn't hurt
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:11 pm to 5Alive
Never has a WR ever been jammed and fallen forward on all fours. It was clear he was going for a low block and the Bama defender engaged to prevent his knees from being taken out.
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:36 pm to BhamDore
Obviously, the corner initiates contact. The corner pulls him down for crying out loud.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:37 pm to OliverQueen81
Tony Brown had slipped and was beat regardless
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:39 pm to BhamDore
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There is a difference between a rub route and and pick play. There is a fine line between them and Clemson exploited the poor officiating and capaitlized.
except Clemson didn't run an illegal pick. perfectly legal
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:42 pm to BhamDore
Lol
The DB initiated contact which makes it not a pick route, period.
Learn the rules.
The DB initiated contact which makes it not a pick route, period.
Learn the rules.
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:46 pm to cas4t
In this TD, the WR ran a perfectly legal hook route. Some of you Bama fans need to get over yourselves...
This post was edited on 1/11/17 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:49 pm to LSU316
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To me the TD pass to Williams was a pick...the TD pass to Renfrow (btw who spells Renfroe like that ) looked good to me. Hootie Jones and Tony Brown F'd that up baaaaddd.
That is about how I saw it too, but in reality picks are practically never flagged at the college level so I don't blame them for not calling it here either.
The fact is if Bama doesn't let them drive the field or even simply avoids a stupid flag Clemson is not in position to use it.
The end result ain't anyone's fault but ours.
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