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Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:27 pm to kbrake37
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:27 pm to kbrake37
clemson also beat some SEC teams those years that SC lost to, and also beat a Ohio State team that would have beat SC and other SEC teams.
3 of the years that SC beat CU, CU had several losses to other teams as well.
CU has wins over LSU, UGA, SC, FSU, Auburn (twice), Oklhoma twice Ohio State, ND, a potent UNC team last year, and would have won the Bama game if not for the quirky rule that allows kicking team to catch a ball they kicked, the past 5 years.
3 of the years that SC beat CU, CU had several losses to other teams as well.
CU has wins over LSU, UGA, SC, FSU, Auburn (twice), Oklhoma twice Ohio State, ND, a potent UNC team last year, and would have won the Bama game if not for the quirky rule that allows kicking team to catch a ball they kicked, the past 5 years.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 12:30 pm
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Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:28 pm to Tillman
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title game isn't measuring conference toughness as a whole.
if SEC was as competitive as claimed, Saban wouldn't have woni t so much both at LSU and bama.
You are incorrect. It is the best against the best. It is a reflection of the age old adage iron sharpens iron.
If one considers Bama's talent advantage since 2008. It is amazing and a reflection of the strength and depth of the SEC that anyone finds a way to beat Bama and win the conference.
Some people consider Clemson a rising sub-conference team but facts tell us since 2008 Clemson can't do better than .500 against SEC competition if they play more than 1 SEC team. It's easy to do the math on that and assume Clemson would finish 4-4 in the SEC each year over the last 6 or so with their best overall season landing in the 7-9 win range.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:31 pm to Tigerman97
the current SEC is little different from ACC in the 90s where FSU always won it.
there has been a lot more variety in who wins the ACC than the SEC and i think it is b/c it is more comeptitive across the board.
when do you ever see CU play the historic bottom half of the SEC outside of SC?
CU in the SEC would be a recruiting jugguernaut and it is already one now. this idea that somehow we would be losing to the MS schools, Arkansas etc makes no sense.
there has been a lot more variety in who wins the ACC than the SEC and i think it is b/c it is more comeptitive across the board.
when do you ever see CU play the historic bottom half of the SEC outside of SC?
CU in the SEC would be a recruiting jugguernaut and it is already one now. this idea that somehow we would be losing to the MS schools, Arkansas etc makes no sense.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:32 pm to Tillman
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and i think
That's where you messed up
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:32 pm to Tillman
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i think
Stop doing that, it's not working out for you.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:33 pm to Tillman
What? Where did this come from?
SEC Sets Record for Bowl Wins
SEC Sets Record for Bowl Wins
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:35 pm to PhiBootaRoota07
regarding SC 's 5 year run against CLem
they've already lost 2 in a row since then, and likely to lose bad at Clemson this year for 3 in a row.
5 in a row doesn't mean much if you then lose mulitple games in a row after.
good news for SC is Watson is gone after this year. but we recruiting studs at QB lol
they've already lost 2 in a row since then, and likely to lose bad at Clemson this year for 3 in a row.
5 in a row doesn't mean much if you then lose mulitple games in a row after.
good news for SC is Watson is gone after this year. but we recruiting studs at QB lol
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:36 pm to PhiBootaRoota07
a lot of that is due to bias in the bowl tie ins that favor SEC
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:37 pm to Tillman
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the current SEC is little different from ACC in the 90s where FSU always won it.
there has been a lot more variety in who wins the ACC than the SEC and i think it is b/c it is more comeptitive across the board.
when do you ever see CU play the historic bottom half of the SEC outside of SC?
CU in the SEC would be a recruiting jugguernaut and it is already one now. this idea that somehow we would be losing to the MS schools, Arkansas etc makes no sense.
The problem is your opinions aren't supportable by facts. The SEC is superior to the ACC in every way.
Top end teams? Check
Middle tier teams? Check
Bottom tier teams? Check
Clemson has a once in a lifetime QB right now...enjoy it. Hope you win something with him that you can look back and enjoy for years to come. Right now though I suspect if you don't win a title this year you'll be looking back thinking what might have been and not reloading ala Bama and making another run.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:37 pm to Tillman
You can't claim 3 victories in a row until you have 3 victories in a row. Lol. Your best team ever barely beat USC last year by 4 points
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:39 pm to Tigerman97
nah everything you said is confirmation bias.
'top end teams'. lol
you've only had one program with any kind of consistentcy and that is Bama. they've lost like 7 sec games total in like 8 years. obviusly the league is overrated if they can do that.
'top end teams'. lol
you've only had one program with any kind of consistentcy and that is Bama. they've lost like 7 sec games total in like 8 years. obviusly the league is overrated if they can do that.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:40 pm to PhiBootaRoota07
I really just started this to poke fun at "Cajun's Café." Sorry, but the explanation of the one "Cajun guy" grilling outside the Clemson baseball stadium aside, it seems lame.
How dare you folks turn this into a substantive discussion.
But since you did, I would certainly readily admit Clemson has a very nice program currently, the results speak for themselves. They have a good record against SEC teams. But, I do subscribe to the SEC talking point (b/c I think it's the truth) that a team like Clemson, faced w/ the week in and out grind of an SEC schedule, would be seeing some 2, 3, 4 loss seasons. You can coast through an easier conference schedule (7 or 8 or so games) and then gear up for the big match w/ the SEC team. When LSU played Clemson in the last bowl game (I can't even remember which bowl -- Chicken Samwich?), the truth is LSU really didn't care about playing Clemson. Clemson was out to defend the honor of the ACC, beat the big bad SEC.
Of course, all of this is conjecture and Clemson might do very well if it faced an SEC conference slate of games every year. I tend to think not, but that's my opinion.
How dare you folks turn this into a substantive discussion.
But since you did, I would certainly readily admit Clemson has a very nice program currently, the results speak for themselves. They have a good record against SEC teams. But, I do subscribe to the SEC talking point (b/c I think it's the truth) that a team like Clemson, faced w/ the week in and out grind of an SEC schedule, would be seeing some 2, 3, 4 loss seasons. You can coast through an easier conference schedule (7 or 8 or so games) and then gear up for the big match w/ the SEC team. When LSU played Clemson in the last bowl game (I can't even remember which bowl -- Chicken Samwich?), the truth is LSU really didn't care about playing Clemson. Clemson was out to defend the honor of the ACC, beat the big bad SEC. Of course, all of this is conjecture and Clemson might do very well if it faced an SEC conference slate of games every year. I tend to think not, but that's my opinion.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:40 pm to Tillman
Alabama auburn lsu georgia florida tennessee...then you would fall into the pecking order in the sec. Compare where you stand in the acc to that. End of debate.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:40 pm to Tillman
Congratulations. You've stated the dumbest thing on tRant today. Quite a feat.
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:41 pm to kbrake37
they scored their last td with 1 second left in the game.
clemson also had 3 atypical turnovers by their best 3 players that killed good drives or gave sc field position.
if u watched the game, clemson controlled it. nobody thought SC would win lol
SC has a nce few big plays on CU but didnt do much on majority of plays.
clemson also had 3 atypical turnovers by their best 3 players that killed good drives or gave sc field position.
if u watched the game, clemson controlled it. nobody thought SC would win lol
SC has a nce few big plays on CU but didnt do much on majority of plays.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:43 pm to CapstoneGrad06
i doubt person lving in Lttle Rock can discern stupidity in others. lol
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:44 pm to Tillman
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you've only had one program with any kind of consistentcy and that is Bama. they've lost like 7 sec games total in like 8 years. obviusly the league is overrated if they can do that.
Consistency is easier to maintain among mediocrity. Clemson's record against the SEC shows they are a top tier ACC team and middle tier SEC team. Those are facts.
The bowl thing you posted is also non-sense. It isn't hard to do the research and see the SEC plays against teams that finished higher in their respective conferences each year than the SEC teams, but the SEC teams have a winning record in the bowl games. The year Clemson beat LSU they were #2 or #3 in the ACC and LSU was #4 or #5 in the SEC. That is what happens when you place a league champ in the title game year after year, it causes a slide in where your other teams fall in the bowl selection matching lower finishing teams from the SEC against higher finishing teams from other leagues.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:46 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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Alabama auburn lsu georgia florida tennessee...then you would fall into the pecking order in the sec. Compare where you stand in the acc to that. End of debate.
Tenn has sucked over a decade.
Florida has sucked since Tebow left.
Georgia has been ok on offense until last year but terrible on defense.
Auburn had a lucky year but has sucked the majority of the past 7 years.
LSU is generally terrible on offense and lately has been saren wrap on defense.
i'll give u Bama but I think Clemson was capable of beating them all 3 years with Boyd and every year with Watson. they couldn't stop watson in the title game.
and people forget he was coming off a major knee injury.
This post was edited on 6/4/16 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:46 pm to Tigerman97
When Clemson hangs 50 in jerden hair stadium will it be because Auburn isn't SEC enough?
Posted on 6/4/16 at 12:47 pm to Tillman
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LSU is a flat area on a bayou. you should be Death Bayou
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