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re: Rank the SEC solely by recruiting ablility of its staffs
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:04 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:04 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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South Carolina has definitely upgraded their staff when it comes to recruiting. The problem is even being in the top 15 nationally can still only put you around 8th in the SEC.
That's absolutely true ... but it is what it is. We've been dealing with it for two and a half decades now. Not much we can do about it given we endeavor to compete in the SEC.
For instance, SCAR's class this year would have been ranked in the top four or five in every conference in America, bar none ... except in the SEC.
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:24 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
No you disputed LSU out recruiting UGA..The only way to prove who has better players is to see who is actually performing at the highest level, you guys actually lead for most guys drafted who haven't played a snap.And no,no you haven't had more drafted in the last four years.. You haven't had a single all-pro 3 for LSU this season alone.We don't live up to expectations consistent enough. But our players for the most part live up to the hype..
Posted on 2/20/16 at 5:45 am to purpleblackangold83
Although I certainly don't believe star ratings mean everything but I would say those and overall class rankings have more bearing in who recruits the best than NFL draft picks.
My reasoning behind that is is that if you look at draft pics you are starting to account for player development by the coaches. Which in my mind is a different part of the equation.
My reasoning behind that is is that if you look at draft pics you are starting to account for player development by the coaches. Which in my mind is a different part of the equation.
This post was edited on 2/20/16 at 6:38 am
Posted on 2/20/16 at 7:40 am to purpleblackangold83
Dude, there are multiple ways to see who's is better. I wasn't even joining the argument. I just asked a single question out of curiosity and noticed that you struggled with it because you didn't like the answer.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:04 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Correct but, you didn't ask me.. I answered it for you since the original person didn't bother to dig up the information.Also in football a player is graded by his performance on the field.If he's not on the field making plays how can you say he is better,the best players play,and if your not playing that means your not very good.. Lots of UGA guys not playing.. Richt was a top notch recruiter. What makes you think Kirby will do better on that front?
Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:14 am to G8RnGA
Yeah but, the knock on LSU is we underachieve coaches not developing the talent.See(Daniel Hunter) drafted on sheer measurables. Ranked second amongst all rookies with 6 sacks.That's more in one professional season than he had his entire LSU career. Member of the all-rookie team another 4th round pick.Projected starter next season. That all falls on him be talented and accepting coaching
Posted on 2/20/16 at 8:36 am to purpleblackangold83
And if he is opinion is being based of the star method LSU has dominated Georgia in that department as well. 2012 UGA 8 LSU 14, 2013 LSU 5 UGA 11, 2014 LSU 3 UGA 8(20+point differential) 2015 UGA 5 LSU 6(LSU had a higher star rating,UGA signed 30 to lsu's 22) so if you want to count that as a win..2016 LSU 3 UGA 7.. What more can be used to judge who has better players star level LSU. Nfl performance LSU again. So why is it that people think that UGA'S current staff will out recruite LSU based on what theory?
Posted on 2/20/16 at 9:25 am to purpleblackangold83
As an extreme case, let's look at Barry Sanders, just for giggles. Are you telling them that there were 100 other better running backs in the NCAA the years that he sat the bench behind Thurman Thomas? There are so many situations that change things. Is Patrick Peterson better than Richard Sherman? They play the same position but are asked to do different things. Like I said previously, there are multiple ways to look to see who is better, you're choosing overall stats that can be misleading in some cases. Compare Chubb and LF's freshmen years. Most LSU fans fought tooth and nail to say LF was better than Chubb despite the better numbers for Chubb. Both were great backs but Chubb got more carries so according to you, Chubb was the better back.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 1:33 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Good point but, it wasn't an individual assessment..Chubb is big time outside of chubb, Who is big time from that class? LSU you has 4 projected first rounders from that class and a fifth who is an all-sec perfomer that was redshirted.For the record petterson was better than Sherman last season.
Posted on 2/20/16 at 1:45 pm to purpleblackangold83
Holy shite. You're like jello. Nothing sticks with you. And I have a feeling that you haven't watched one game of UGA football since we beat LSU since you have no clue who's on our roster.
And you're saying you have 4 projected first round draft picks on your team? bullshite. Do you have any idea how far away that is and how hard it is to actually get those predictions right?
And you're saying you have 4 projected first round draft picks on your team? bullshite. Do you have any idea how far away that is and how hard it is to actually get those predictions right?
Posted on 2/21/16 at 2:53 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Clearly you haven't watched LSU.. Buga, Dupre, Adams, Godchaux that's just the 2014 class.. I watch Sec football, only dabble with other conferences if it's a prime time matchup..From your 14 class chubb is the only guy I can see going in the 1st.. If you can name someone else I'll gladly listen
Posted on 2/21/16 at 2:58 am to purpleblackangold83
Brian's Mock Draft (2/9)
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:07 am to purpleblackangold83
I don't believe LSU should be among the top recruiting staffs after learning about TOPS.
With the exposure of TOPS we all now know that the kids and their families are getting paid to go to LSU. You commit and your siblings and friends of friends get to go to school for free.... If UF or A&M had programs like this, they would be in competition for the top5 national recruiting classes in every sport every year.
With the exposure of TOPS we all now know that the kids and their families are getting paid to go to LSU. You commit and your siblings and friends of friends get to go to school for free.... If UF or A&M had programs like this, they would be in competition for the top5 national recruiting classes in every sport every year.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 9:29 am to purpleblackangold83
Oh, well... If Bryan said it then it must be true. 
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:21 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Actually saw this on quite a few sites.. I can't figure out how to link them from my phone lol!!!!They actually have a whole graph on the Rant with the class chart for the last 4 years with all the major schools but, I'm pretty sure you've already checked it out..
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:40 am to Chill98
It's called financial aid if a kid scores high enough on their ACT,and takes care of business in the class room then the government rewards them with the opportunitie to attend an institution of higher learning.A&M has 16 different financial scholarships I didn't even bother to look up Florida's. You can't be serious people get scholarships for attending as minorities at several University's.The word tops just isn't throwed around.You can't be serious? That's like saying Vandy has an advantage because they can offer full rides in baseball because, they're a private academic institution. Who just happens to sign some of the best athletes in the country.. Or the NCAA lowering admittance guidelines so that schools such as Vandy,Duke,and Stanford can level the playing field..
Posted on 2/21/16 at 10:44 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Porter Osborne Jr !! Did this guy not know Tops has been around since dinosaurs? It wasn't an advantage then..
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:00 am to rockiee
This is important. How easy is it to recruit to each school regardless of staff is the first question and that rank would be:
1. LSU-only game in town and lots of LA talent that is loyal plus proximity to TX.
2. A&M-tons of local talent and UT is down.
3. UF-again the talent is off the charts.
4. UGA-lots of local talent, going against Ga. Tech in state, and proximity to Florida.
5. Bama-have to fight AU for the local kids and get a lot from out of state.
6. UT-talent is getting better in state and you have a lot of money and facilities.
Based on the above, i would rank the staffs:
1. Bama, 2. Ole Miss, 3. UT, 4. LSU/A&M/UGA...
1. LSU-only game in town and lots of LA talent that is loyal plus proximity to TX.
2. A&M-tons of local talent and UT is down.
3. UF-again the talent is off the charts.
4. UGA-lots of local talent, going against Ga. Tech in state, and proximity to Florida.
5. Bama-have to fight AU for the local kids and get a lot from out of state.
6. UT-talent is getting better in state and you have a lot of money and facilities.
Based on the above, i would rank the staffs:
1. Bama, 2. Ole Miss, 3. UT, 4. LSU/A&M/UGA...
Posted on 2/21/16 at 11:50 am to rebelrouser
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1. LSU-only game in town and lots of LA talent that is loyal plus proximity to TX.
2. A&M-tons of local talent and UT is down.
3. UF-again the talent is off the charts.
4. UGA-lots of local talent, going against Ga. Tech in state, and proximity to Florida.
5. Bama-have to fight AU for the local kids and get a lot from out of state.
6. UT-talent is getting better in state and you have a lot of money and facilities.
Good list but I would have UGA above UF. It is very close but UF has to compete with more schools for the state talent.
Posted on 2/21/16 at 4:31 pm to G8RnGA
Was this list made before or after LSU took Auburn's best recruiter..???
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