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re: Rank the SEC solely by recruiting ablility of its staffs
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:28 am to Blanky6715
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:28 am to Blanky6715
Yeah, you're not biased at all 
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:32 pm to DrewDawg13
Nope last 4 drafts UGA has Boykins,Ogeltree(beast), Gurley(nuff said),Jones(jury is still deliberating) John Jenkins(same class as Boykins solid) 2 lineman who are decent. It's not even close even the late round picks from LSU have garnered starts and have been productive..See Kwan Alexander more tackles than Jones after only playing 12 games..
Posted on 2/19/16 at 12:59 pm to purpleblackangold83
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purpleblackangold83
yeah and you also gave the Falcons Jalen Collins so frick you.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:01 pm to purpleblackangold83
Who has had more drafted over the last four years?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:08 pm to G8RnGA
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1. We don't need anymore rivalries. We're good in this area.
Then quit baiting us like we're a rival.
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2. Thanks for reading but if u are going to call it shite, at least make your own. I would like to see how you would rank them.
Off the Top of my head ...
Bama ... because they are Bama and they have Nick.
LSU (given their instate talent base and their proximity to Texas and Mississippi, plus no major instate competitors)
UGA (given the instate talent and no major instate competitors)
Florida (given the instate talent)
Tennessee (because Butch and staff have proven that they can recruit)
Ole Miss (until Freeze gets caught doing something wrong)
SCAR (because this staff is proven and loaded with recruiters and SCAR has traditionally done well even with lazy recruiters - we'll continue to pull outta GA and NC as well as SC during good instate years)
Auburn (provided they continue to raid Georgia and Florida for prospects - but they need to start winning again)
Miss State (because Mullen has a good eye for talent and a solid recruiting base/footprint)
Texas A&M (Sumlin & staff are starting to falter - they should be higher but they don't do as well as they should)
Arkansas (because Bert can recruit his kind of prospects but it's the kind that will never been highly ranked, although they will work in his system - plus they have some issues with a basic recruiting footprint)
Kentucky (because Stoops is underrated, but it's still Kentucky football)
Mizzou ... no idea how Otis is going to do.
Vandy ... they're Vandy.
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3. The problem I had with Muschamp and co is not enough history. Tough to put them above some others who are more established. I don't have any doubt he will elevate your rankings as I said.
South Carolina has averaged Top 25 rankings for the past twenty years without having assembled a great recruiting staff at any time. This current staff is a great recruiting staff. Boom and company will average Top 15 during his tenure ... you can already see it happening. Doors are opening everywhere.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:26 pm to scrooster
South Carolina has definitely upgraded their staff when it comes to recruiting. The problem is even being in the top 15 nationally can still only put you around 8th in the SEC.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 1:37 pm to scrooster
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recruiting footprint
Shouldn't we give some staffs a bump simply because they have a weaker area to recruit in, I understand why some staffs' ceiling is higher because of their school's location. It seems like people are grading schools and the staff but not just the staff.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:00 pm to rockiee
This was also the point that I was trying to make. the point of the thread is not what school should have the highest class ranking, it is what school's recruiters are the best.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:06 pm to rockiee
Did I provide false information?
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:06 pm to rockiee
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Shouldn't we give some staffs a bump simply because they have a weaker area to recruit in, I understand why some staffs' ceiling is higher because of their school's location. It seems like people are grading schools and the staff but not just the staff.
Exactly. I think we can all agree that Saban is #1 but personally I'd have Freeze a very close 2nd followed by Jones at UT. Any coach should be able to land top 5-10 classes at LSU, Georgia or Florida. Put those staffs at a non traditional power in a less talent rich state and then see how they do. I do realize UT is a traditional power but they have been an after thought for a few years now and Tennessee doesn't produce the same number of elite football players as most of the other SEC states.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:08 pm to marshallcotiger
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Exactly. I think we can all agree that Saban is #1 but personally I'd have Freeze a very close 2nd followed by Jones at UT. Any coach should be able to land top 5-10 classes at LSU, Georgia or Florida. Put those staffs at a non traditional power in a less talent rich state and then see how they do. I do realize UT is a traditional power but they have been an after thought for a few years now and Tennessee doesn't produce the same number of elite football players as most of the other SEC states.
All good points, my list would be very similar but I'm going to hold out on judging Freeze just in case
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:09 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
After next year's draft LSU will have more in the last 5 years.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:12 pm to Blanky6715
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Did I provide false information?
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We literally just landed a top 5 recruiter in Craig and the Frank Wilson replacement is a virtual lock to hold down NOLA, given his past and reputation there. That puts LSU with two top 10 recruiters in Craig and Peveto and another in the top 20 in Orgeron
Those are not facts, all of that is very subjective. There is no doubt that they are good recruiters though.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 2:51 pm to scrooster
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Then quit baiting us like we're a rival.
How did I bait USC? I made a list.
Just because I didn't put you as high as you think doesn't mean it was some troll attempt. Trust me baiting USC or its fans was about the last thing on my mind when putting it together.
Posted on 2/19/16 at 3:25 pm to Blanky6715
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After next year's draft LSU will have more in the last 5 years.
Well, we were talking about the last 4 years. I honestly had no idea who had more but since you avoided the answer and added on next years draft I think it's safe to assume UGA has had more
Posted on 2/19/16 at 4:11 pm to bamasgot13
Best recruiting staff:
Well they are our staff, and they are the second best recruiting staff...
UGA is LSU now bc your your ex DC is coaching there?
Just so you know saban had top classes long before smart, and will have them long after smart as well.
Saban makes his assistants, his assistants don't make him
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2a) can't rank you at 2 alone b/c you may very well fire your entire staff after this season)
Well they are our staff, and they are the second best recruiting staff...
UGA is LSU now bc your your ex DC is coaching there?
Just so you know saban had top classes long before smart, and will have them long after smart as well.
Saban makes his assistants, his assistants don't make him
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:32 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Yeah lot of UGA guys drafted 5-7 round with no playing time if you count those!! The argument was who was better!!
Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:47 pm to purpleblackangold83
Oh, so only those who were drafted in the first 4 rounds are what matter. 
Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:41 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
No on guys that actually play!!! We have 6th rounders who've played more snaps than your UGA day 2 picks.. Hell Mo Claiborne almost has better numbers than any UGA db and he's been injured all 3 years in the league.125 tackles,3 Ints..
Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:02 pm to purpleblackangold83
I asked you a simple question. Nothing more, nothing less. You are acting like a politician and giving multiple answers too questions I never asked simply because you don't like the way it painted your team.
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