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re: Clemson will be Bama's toughest Test
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:22 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Ole Miss had 139 yards on 2 plays, 1 of which was pure luck
Luck? That's called football. I constantly see Bama fans point to this one "lucky" play by Ole Miss, but never see them point out the incredibly lucky bounce Bama received to recover and return the onside kick to the Ole Miss 30 yardline. This couldn't be replicated if it were tried another 500 times.
It goes both ways, and that is why the games are played. What is astounding to me is that Bama fans are the most incapable of any fan base at accepting the fact that they were outplayed every time they are in fact outplayed.
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the other of which was a clearly uncalled penalty
Again, Bama fans point out "uncalled penalties" more than any other fan base. If I had a dime for every uncalled Bama hold I'd be a much richer man than I already am.
I also seem to remember a rather obvious facemask grab in the 2014 game against Ole Miss that resulted in an Ole Miss fumble and a touchdown for Alabama. I would say that was far more egregious than any "no call" that happened in the 2015 game.
So what to we have? We have the game of football, played twice between Ole Miss and Alabama since 2014 in which both teams got some breaks from the officials. We also have two losses for the Crimson Tide.
Those losses had nothing to do with "luck" or "no calls". Ole Miss was the better team on both occasions. I'm not sure why its so hard for Bama fans to admit this obvious truth.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:36 am to BHMKyle
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Luck? That's called football. I constantly see Bama fans point to this one "lucky" play by Ole Miss, but never see them point out the incredibly lucky bounce Bama received to recover and return the onside kick to the Ole Miss 30 yardline. This couldn't be replicated if it were tried another 500 times.
Again, as I said before, it isn't taking anything away from Ole Miss. The point is you are looking at this from an analytical perspective. Clemson is not expecting to have 70 yards on a play that tips of a guys helmet, bounces in the air and is caught for a TD.
The whole point of your post is taking things that happened and trying to see how we can use those events to predict future events. If you honestly think that past event should be used to predict a future event, then have at it. I think everyone else understands that it isn't.
The other drives that Ole Miss had when they scored quickly? Sure, that is something you can use to compare to Clemson. The freaky ball off the helmet play? I mean, you can if you want, but that would be really dumb.
For the third time, just to emphasize, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE in talking about that play from a "discredit Ole Miss" point of view and a "use the Ole Miss game as a point of reference to figure out how Clemson will do" point of view. It SHOULD NOT discredit what Ole Miss did. That is football, things happen, they made the play. It also would be asinine to use that in an assessment of how what Ole Miss did could translate to what Clemson can do.
It's a pretty simple different set of concepts that you don't seem to be able or willing to differentiate between.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:37 am to BHMKyle
why even start this...?
Yea. Of course.
No shite, Sherlock
Yea. Of course.
No shite, Sherlock
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:42 am to Titus Pullo
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I wish UA could play Clemson and then turn around the next day and play Ole Miss, just to clear up an misunderstandings the Rebs might have.
I thought the game this year in Tuscaloosa was supposed to clear up those misunderstandings from 2014?
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:49 am to TroyTider
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Thank you Captain Obvious. Would love to share this with others if only someone would invent a device that can simultaneously move galaxies of information. -- TroyTider
Reading comprehension as well as the skill of copy & paste must not have made its way to Troy yet. Bless your heart.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 9:51 am to BHMKyle
The problem with the Ole Miss comparison is this is a completely different Alabama team than the one that played Ole MIss. The Qb spot is settled, Henry has emerged, a true freshman and sophomore in the secondary have developed, the D line has improved, etc.
I agree this will be Bama's toughest test, but I also think were Bama to play Ole MIss right now, they would win by double digits.
I agree this will be Bama's toughest test, but I also think were Bama to play Ole MIss right now, they would win by double digits.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:37 am to BHMKyle
Clemson beat South Carolina by 5 points. The defense rests.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:49 am to artompkins
Who has the advantage between offensive lines between both team? I would like to see a breakdown by groups if any are available.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:50 am to BHMKyle
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BHMKyle
aren't you the guy who said we were loaded when bert first got here? as in petrino and jls left the team with so much talent? pretty sure you are.
This post was edited on 1/7/16 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:51 am to BHMKyle
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Clemson will be Bama's toughest test
No shite.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 10:57 am to SummerOfGeorge
Wrong, Alabama will win by 2 scores or more. Ole Miss will end up being your most difficult game. Clemson's numbers are inflated big time by playing in the weakest power 5 conference.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:05 am to BHMKyle
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BHMKyle
You sir are a perfect example of why Georgia is my second favorite SEC team. Most of your fan base are level headed and see things for what they are. Well said......
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:05 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:Good/informative post.
I think the main problem Clemson has in this game is HOW they run Watson. This isn't Manziel running around like a chicken with his head cut off. Clemson runs the power with Watson and runs him off tackle a ton, basically using him as a RB. Alabama lives for shutting that the frick down. Where Watson is used to finding big holes, he's going to find the back of his OL's jerseys. That type of running is the bread and butter of this Clemson offense. There isn't a ton of improvisation. Stop that shite, and Clemson is in real trouble.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:07 am to BHMKyle
quote:I really think that your new Head Coach is going to this Alabama defense prepared and ready to win ANOTHER National Championship.
BHMKyle
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:13 am to TrueReb13
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Clemson's numbers are inflated big time by playing in the weakest power 5 conference.
I agree the ACC is certainly the weakest power conference. But Clemson's division is certainly the stronger divsion... and there are some tough opponents on that side.
Florida State, Louisville, and NC State are all formidable tests. But when you add to that playing Notre Dame OOC, North Carolina in the ACC Title Game, and Oklahoma last week... its impossible to say that Clemson has not been tested.
Alabama is also Clemson's toughest test of the season.
It should be a great game that comes down to the 4th quarter. I think Alabama has a 50/50 shot of winning. My point is that I don't understand the overconfidence on the Bama side when Clemson is built exactly like all the teams that have given Saban fits over the past several years.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:17 am to blairjs
quote:Why? What have offensive lines been able to do against Bama's dline this year?
Who has the advantage between offensive lines between both team? I would like to see a breakdown by groups if any are available.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:20 am to BHMKyle
quote:Indeed
Alabama is also Clemson's toughest test of the season.
quote:Would you not have a very high level of confidence right now if you were a Bama fan? I mean Bama has in fact "been here before" several times in the last 7 yrs.
My point is that I don't understand the overconfidence on the Bama side
quote:Kirby has had problems a few times with offenses like Clemson's...We'll see if he's evolved and been able to overcome.
Clemson is built exactly like all the teams that have given Saban fits over the past several years.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:22 am to The Spleen
It is funny how Alabama is the only team that can get better as the season progresses. For starters, Chad Kelly was making his first SEC start and got better as the season went on. Treadwell was still shaking off rust until mid season. We didn't have the #1 pick in the upcoming NFL draft at LT. Our line was a mess.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:25 am to TrueReb13
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It is funny how Alabama is the only team that can get better as the season progresses. For starters, Chad Kelly was making his first SEC start and got better as the season went on. Treadwell was still shaking off rust until mid season. We didn't have the #1 pick in the upcoming NFL draft at LT. Our line was a mess.
Yea, I agree, I think Ole Miss at the end of the year was better than we played them. However, Ole Miss played a very efficient game against us in addition to us having all the turnovers. As important as our turnovers was that Kelly and the offense had zero turnovers.
Posted on 1/7/16 at 11:25 am to BHMKyle
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BHMKyle
You just going to ignore the response to your Ole Miss helmet tip play post? Probably a good idea.
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