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re: A&M coaches - first 45 games
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:42 am to Mirthomatic
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:42 am to Mirthomatic
If not it was close.
Some of you are forgetting how bad that team was. It was void of talent.
Some of you are forgetting how bad that team was. It was void of talent.
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:43 am to Roger Klarvin
That team really was fricking awful. We had nothing. Arkie State was legit better than we were.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:55 am to Roger Klarvin
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Some of you are forgetting how bad that team was. It was void of talent.
Just to be clear, you are calling this void of talent:
Offense:
Sr. Stephen McGee and So. Jerrod Johnson at QB, Sr. Jorvorskie Lane and Jr. Mike Goodson at RB
Defense:
Sr. Michael Bennett at DE, So. Von Miller at OLB
None of those guys could match the roster of Mighty A-State?
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:01 pm to agalloch
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That team really was fricking awful. We had nothing. Arkie State was legit better than we were.
there was talent on that team but the OL sucked a bag of dicks
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:02 pm to Mirthomatic
Stephen McGee was a shell of his talent after running the option for his whole career, Jerrod was still young, Jorvorskie was fat and slow, but I'll give you Mike Goodson (plus both had to run behind a garbage o-line). On defense, Michael Bennett was legit, and Von was pre-transformation. All of that considered, we had very little. Seriously, watch the Arkie State game again. We were shite, and not just because of coaching.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:10 pm to agalloch
Yeah McGee was like a nice truck that someone had put 250,000 hard miles on. Jerrod was too young for his talent to be useful. Same with Von. Jorvorskie had eaten himself out of being able to play, was told this by Sherman, threw a fit, and it pretty much soured their relationship until Lane was done at A&M. Sherman being Sherman stuck by him to the end and gave him advice and guidance that, after spending a year moving furniture, Lane finally took, which is why he lost weight, worked out, and is an NFL fullback now. Our line was abysmal. Fran had essentially not even recruited for that position. So the only talent that was actually performing at that point was Mike Goodson and Michael Bennett.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:17 pm to Mirthomatic
Cyril Obiozer, Danny Gorrer and Jordan Pugh were all on that team, and good enough to make an NFL roster. Think Alton dixon got practice squad looks as well.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:17 pm to Roger Klarvin
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That's pretty disingenuous given it's entirely based on seasons directly following tge Fran debacle. Sherman inherited an abortion and left this program exponentially more talented than when he arrived.
There's no possible way you can excuse the Colorado game in 2009. Not one.
We had just beaten the crap out of Texas Tech in Lubbock followed by a drubbing of Iowa State at home to go to 5-3 on the season before facing a 2-7 Colorado team in Boulder.
After taking a 21-10 halftime lead, we took a 34-21 lead on a Bullock field goal in the fourth and proceeded to give up 2 touchdowns in 6 minutes, then fumble the game away on the first play of the final drive, losing 35-34.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:17 pm to NanosTacoRun
And that Arkansas State team sucked. They lost to some bad teams that year.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:23 pm to Cooter Davenport
Jerrod Johnson and Von Miller were same age then as Kyle Allen and Myles Garrett are now. Jerrod and Von weren't as good as they would eventually be, but they were better than anything Arkansas St. had.
To give you an idea of the kind of talent A-State rolled out, here were their composite recruiting rankings:
2008 - 106
2007 - 101
2006 - 107
2005 - 109
I don't know whether y'all just hate Fran, love Sherm, or some combo of both, but you are out of your damn minds if you think A-State had anything close to the talent we had.
To give you an idea of the kind of talent A-State rolled out, here were their composite recruiting rankings:
2008 - 106
2007 - 101
2006 - 107
2005 - 109
I don't know whether y'all just hate Fran, love Sherm, or some combo of both, but you are out of your damn minds if you think A-State had anything close to the talent we had.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:26 pm to NanosTacoRun
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And that Arkansas State team sucked. They lost to some bad teams that year.
Hey now, it's never a shame to lose to U-La-La. /RC Slocum
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:31 pm to Mirthomatic
Don't forget this about the Arkansas State game:
A&M led 14-3 at halftime and proceeded to get outscored 15-0 the rest of the game.
A&M led 14-3 at halftime and proceeded to get outscored 15-0 the rest of the game.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:45 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Sherman went 7-6 in the B12 with virtually the same players (minus Johnny) that Sumlin used to go 11-2 in the SEC. We got beat by virtually any team with a pulse. He could pick talent, yeah. But in year 4, he showed he had no idea how to coach or run a college program, evidenced by the 2nd half collapses over and over again. Year 5 wasn't going to be any better, it probably would have been worse with Tannehill gone and Showers starting.
If after 4 years, you don't understand the needs or have someone who will tell you the needs of a college level S&C program, then you shouldn't be a college HC.
If after 4 years, you don't understand the needs or have someone who will tell you the needs of a college level S&C program, then you shouldn't be a college HC.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:52 pm to cokebottleag
And it's not like Tannehill was chopped liver at QB, either.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 12:52 pm to cokebottleag
Yeah, I definitely think Sherman was a bad college coach and needing firing. I still honestly think his first team was fricked from the start.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:07 pm to Mirthomatic
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I don't know whether y'all just hate Fran, love Sherm, or some combo of both, but you are out of your damn minds if you think A-State had anything close to the talent we had.
That's not the case I was trying to make. I was arguing a sub-point of the main point.
Even though we were not a talented team, we had more talent than Arkansas State.
The reason we lost to Arkansas State was Mike Sherman. He is a man with a fatal flaw in the form of stubbornness that bit him repeatedly. This was evident right away. When Sherman came in that first year he insisted on installing the West Coast offense, without modification for college practice time allowances, or the age/maturity of college players, or their responsibilities as students. It has been documented (I don't have a link, sorry) that Sherman gave them the Green Bay playbook from his time there with A&M on the front page instead of Green Bay - it was as thick as the Yellow Pages. What ensued is exactly what you'd expect.
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:07 pm to Mirthomatic
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Hey now, it's never a shame to lose to U-La-La. /RC Slocum
Lol
So glad that was before my time as an A&M fan
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:09 pm to NanosTacoRun
Ah yes, that was blamed on Tupac. 
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:11 pm to Cooter Davenport
The east coast/west coast feud was too much for the Texas good ole boys
Posted on 10/21/15 at 1:13 pm to NanosTacoRun
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So glad that was before my time as an A&M fan
I was at that game; it was not good. Even then it was just an ugly game, those games are so much better than games that we don't even deserve to be on the field with the other team.
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