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re: A&M coaches - first 45 games
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:48 am to Agforlife
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:48 am to Agforlife
quote:are you just going to forget the part where I said we were lacking at our linebackers, RB, and offensive line? Still doesn't change the fact that we are in the top 1/3 of the SEC in terms of talent and that's with our deficiencies
We have no linebackers our secondary is marginal, the oline is putrid, we don't know what we have at RB cause all of them but Tra are hurt. So please tell me how we are equal to the top of the SEC.
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Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:50 am to WestCoastAg
No I didn't forget a damn thing, are going to keep overlooking the fact that I am talking about depth not one or 2 deep but true depth.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:52 am to Agforlife
quote:no I'm not. We already have this on our defensive line, at our wide receivers, and with our QB. Depth, legit depth, is on this team at more than one position group
are going to keep overlooking the fact that I am talking about depth not one or 2 deep but true depth
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:55 am to WestCoastAg
Yeah but not at other very important groups and my point has been that we need to win and win big to get these kids to come here. There's a reason Bama can redshirt 5 stars and have 5 stars sitting on the bench waiting 2 or sometimes 3 years to get significant playing time and that's where we are lacking to be a truly top team.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:56 am to Roger Klarvin
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Mike Sherman was 0-3 against Arkansas but likely would have been 3-0 had he played the teams Sumlin has faced.
All I have to do to obliterate this argument is show one stat.
Number of teams Kevin Sumlin has lost to at A&M who finished the season .500 or worse - ZERO
Teams Mike Sherman lost to at A&M who finished the season .500 or worse:
2008 - Arkansas State (6-6): Blew a 14-3 halftime lead
2008 - Kansas State (5-7)
2008 - Baylor (4-8)
2009 - Kansas State (6-6)
2009 - Colorado (3-9): Blew a 21-10 halftime lead and a 34-21 4th quarter lead
Number of Bowl wins
Kevin Sumlin - 3
Slocum, Franchione, and Sherman COMBINED - 3
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 10:58 am
Posted on 10/21/15 at 10:57 am to Agforlife
quote:Alabama is the only school that has legit depth across the board
Yeah but not at other very important groups
quote:so because we aren't bama you think we don't have the depth to compete? Literally no other program in the country can do what Bama does
There's a reason Bama can redshirt 5 stars and have 5 stars sitting on the bench waiting 2 or sometimes 3 years to get significant playing time and that's where we are lacking to be a truly top team.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:01 am to WestCoastAg
No I just used Bama as an example, there are other teams in the country with much better depth than ours, Florida tOSU LSU Georgia, to name a couple. No they aren't Bama level in that respect but we aren't their level. Example a few years ago LSU lost 20+ to the draft/seniors and had an equal or better season as we had, could we lose 20+ and compete next year? I don't think so. That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:04 am to Agforlife
quote:and all I'm saying is, that's not the norm and outside of bama, we have enough talent to compete with anyone in the country
No I just used Bama as an example, there are other teams in the country with much better depth than ours, Florida tOSU LSU Georgia, to name a couple. No they aren't Bama level in that respect but we aren't their level. Example a few years ago LSU lost 20+ to the draft/seniors and had an equal or better season as we had, could we lose 20+ and compete next year? I don't think so. That's all I'm saying
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:08 am to WestCoastAg
I grow weary of this, as neither is going to concede the point. 
we aren't where we need to be, we are on the way, I say it'll be long and painful, you say nope we're right there, maybe I'm wrong, maybe you are, only time will tell 
we aren't where we need to be, we are on the way, I say it'll be long and painful, you say nope we're right there, maybe I'm wrong, maybe you are, only time will tell Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:09 am to Agforlife
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Florida tOSU LSU Georgia
I don't know if UGA is a team you want to compare us against as far as success.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:09 am to Agforlife
NO!! IM RIGHT!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE 
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:11 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Number of teams Kevin Sumlin has lost to at A&M who finished the season .500 or worse - ZERO
Teams Mike Sherman lost to at A&M who finished the season .500 or worse:
2008 - Arkansas State (6-6): Blew a 14-3 halftime lead
2008 - Kansas State (5-7)
2008 - Baylor (4-8)
2009 - Kansas State (6-6)
2009 - Colorado (3-9): Blew a 21-10 halftime lead and a 34-21 4th quarter lead
Number of Bowl wins
Kevin Sumlin - 3
Slocum, Franchione, and Sherman COMBINED - 3
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:12 am to cokebottleag
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I don't know if UGA is a team you want to compare us against as far as success.
Who's talking about success? We're talking about talent and depth.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:13 am to WestCoastAg
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NO!! IM RIGHT!!! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
GET OFF MY LAWN
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:13 am to WestCoastAg
Someone bump the preseason predictions thread so we can figure out how many of the melters here seriously predicted a win vs Bama
This post was edited on 10/21/15 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:17 am to Iosh
I predicted 9-3 at best 7-5 at worst, I'm not melting just talking about what I see.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:27 am to CGSC Lobotomy
That's pretty disingenuous given it's entirely based on seasons directly following tge Fran debacle. Sherman inherited an abortion and left this program exponentially more talented than when he arrived.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:29 am to Roger Klarvin
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That's pretty disingenuous given it's entirely based on seasons directly following tge Fran debacle. Sherman inherited an abortion and left this program exponentially more talented than when he arrived.
Fran didn't cause 6 second half collapses in a season.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:33 am to Roger Klarvin
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After this year, we'll have played 2/8 East opponents who had any business beating us. That's pretty damn easy.
2014 Missouri and 2013 Missouri were absolutely better than us. 14 Mizzou might not have been that great but they were for sure better than us and were the best team in their division at the end of the year. I would say we won the three games we should have and lost the three games we should have, which is pretty much the story of the Sumlin era so far aside from the 2012 Bama game.
Also I would guess the cumulative records of the teams we played from the east was better than the majority of the other west teams.
Posted on 10/21/15 at 11:41 am to Roger Klarvin
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That's pretty disingenuous given it's entirely based on seasons directly following tge Fran debacle. Sherman inherited an abortion and left this program exponentially more talented than when he arrived.
Was Arkansas St. more talented than us in Sherman's first year? Did Art Briles have so much more talent in his first year at Baylor that it was reasonable to accept the first blowout loss to the Bears since 1980?
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