re: What would the depth chart be in a 3-4 scheme?

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Im saying an elite player like Monty could make that position work

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What do Suh and Fairley have to do with this? Detroit still run's a 4-man front most of the time. They are not a 3-4 team.

I was comparing the players weight. seems as if yalls argument is that monty is too small, hes actually a big MF

In a 3-4 scheme, you typically want your NG to be in the 320+ range and for him to require double teams. While Terrance Cody was a tub of shite, he was a perfect nose guard because he was so big that he required a double team even though he wouldn't do anything if you left him alone and ran away from him.

Your ends are typical 4-3 tackles, in the 290 to 310 range that are quick enough to get an end and contain.

Your penetration comes from your outside linebackers that are your typical 4-3 ends, roughly 230 to 260 range that can cover a tight end in coverage but also be fast enough to blitz off the 3-4 ends shoulder.

Then you want to fill your secondary with the best skill guys you can regardless of size. You will often bring a safety up into the box for run stopping so bigger safeties are a plus but not required.

The biggest thing about the 3-4 that makes it run is that your nose guard and ends chew up the line and let the linebackers do all the run stopping. You won't see a 3-4 lineman get a lot of tackles even though they get a lot of praise.

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It sure as hell wasn't a 3-4

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So it stands to reason he could run a 4-3 system for a year or two while he brings in players to make the transition to a 3-4.

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I was comparing the players weight. seems as if yalls argument is that monty is too small, hes actually a big MF

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300 pounds is not "big" at all for a 3-4 NT. The problem however is not just weight...it is playing style. Adams is one of the most athletic tackles in the conference. His game is penetrating. It is NOT eating up blocks and eating up space. Why would you take a disruptor and attempt to make him a space eater? It is a waste of talent.

3-4 NT is not an easy position to play. Those of you who think you can just take any DT and fatten him up are delusional.

so you want monty to flash and shine, yea I do too. but I bet he could knock down the assignments for eating up blocks.

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I think its definitely in reach for Monty to get to over 320+ this offseason. IF, that's the direction we should go. We definitely need someone better than Daniel on the end IMO. Might not have the personel yet though

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if we ever considered going to a 3-4 base scheme, we would need to look to the JUCO ranks to find a nose guard that could come in and play the spot.

Honestly, the 3-4 base is outdated for today's offenses. If you look at Bama, they have their picks of the litter and they are going away from it due to offenses being too damn fast. The front 3 get too winded and have zero impact on the game after the first couple drives. The 4-2-5 is a perfect college defensive scheme but it isn't worth a crap for the NFL so it is a tough sell to get a guy to come in to play the Star spot and have nowhere to go after college.

College defenses have to be smaller and faster now so that they can run with no huddle offenses.

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Move someone like Deon Mix to NT . He is big and takes up space on the bench. I imagine that can transfer to blockers

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not sure if your are joking or not but looking at your offensive linemen isn't a bad notion. A nose guard is essentially a blocker anyway.

Why are we even having this discussion? You guys realize that Florida's base defense is a 4-3, right? Muschamp also ran a 4-3 under Tuberville.

Are you guys under the assumption that Muschamp would mean a full-out switch to a 3-4? That is not accurate at all.