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re: Why is Auburn the only member of the "big 6" unable to sustain success?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:59 pm to Wallacewade04
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:59 pm to Wallacewade04
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The new bama mantra. Keep denying, but those in the know talk freely about it. It is not corrupt to report numbers to USNWR that help propagate the Presidents Mission. The concern among some alumni is that over 50% of the student body is from out of state. They fear that these students are academic mercenaries, and when the money dries up so will the student population. This would leave an infrastructure for 30K Students with only 20K candidates. Long term results would be a permanent watering down of the academics.
right and you're definitely not a creepy Auburn internet bro that will jump on any negative opinion of Alabama and feed off it
you can stop worrying your wee lil heart on this one buddy, we'll be fine
edit: I had a typo on "off" clearly I'm the product of permanently watered down academics
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:03 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Stassen is working again...
1983-1999
Alabama 141-65
Auburn 139-56
This includes Alabama's 9 forfeited games in 1993 (wins turned to losses).
So you won 2 more games than Auburn and lost 9 more games? It looks like Auburn has a better winning percentage over that time frame. Auburn also had a better winning percentage from 2000-2013. That tells me that since bear died, even with the great saban run, that Auburn has a better winning percentage. That's interesting.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:04 pm to Irons Puppet
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So I guess the stories of special entrance waivers that HS Counselors talk about students getting into Bama are false ? How they fail to use those students when they report numbers. How they are offering the moon to students with high ACTs to counter the numbers of those marginal students. The President has a plan and facts be damned.
Link from a news source?
Or are you just like the other guy who said Alabama has become less selective only to be exposed as being full of shite?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:05 pm to MrAUTigers
National titles are the only worthy measuring sticks.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:09 pm to MrAUTigers
Thanks to vacated and forfeited games. Does that actually reflect anything? I don't know.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:10 pm to Won3ofTheLast5
dude who needs sources?
he just typed "but those in the know talk freely about it" on the internet clearly this guy knows what he's talking about
he just typed "but those in the know talk freely about it" on the internet clearly this guy knows what he's talking about
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:11 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Thanks to vacated and forfeited games.
You vacated and forfeited wins because you were caught cheating. When you get caught cheating, there are consequences. How many games did you win because you cheated and weren't caught?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:12 pm to MrAUTigers
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You vacated and forfeited wins because you were caught cheating. When you get caught cheating, there are consequences. How many games did you win because you cheated and weren't caught?
again, that's a lil holier than thou for a team that plays on Pat Dye Field
just sayin'
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:12 pm to MrAUTigers
Say what you will about 1993. That's fair game. But I refuse to believe using book scholarships on friends allowed Alabama to win any games in 2005, 2006, or 2007.
Edit: And since you've now slung some holier-than-thou on this and before on Stallings, what about Pat Dye leaving AU on probation?
Edit: And since you've now slung some holier-than-thou on this and before on Stallings, what about Pat Dye leaving AU on probation?
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:13 pm to Wallacewade04
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again, that's a lil holier than thou for a team that plays on Pat Dye Field
just sayin'
He did learn from the best. The best has his name on a stadium. Just look at his coaching tree. Just sayin'. You want to talk about "holier than thou"?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:14 pm to Wallacewade04
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right and you're definitely not a creepy Auburn internet bro that will jump on any negative opinion of Alabama and feed off it you can stop worrying your wee lil heart on this one buddy, we'll be fine edit: I had a typo on "off" clearly I'm the product of permanently watered down academics
Typos happen. Maybe you are on of the students that was from out of state. I do not feed off negative opinions, I just pay attention when those opinions come from people who are in position to know.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:15 pm to Irons Puppet
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He did learn from the best. The best has his name on a stadium. Just look at his coaching tree. Just sayin'. You want to talk about "holier than thou"?
man Alabama and Auburn arguing about who cheats more makes about as much sense as us arguing over who's more red neck
neither of us should be slinging that particular insult
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:16 pm to IAmReality
they're like the aggies; when success is reached they get investigated and busted by the ncaa. seriously, it's happened more times than any other sec schools.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:17 pm to MrAUTigers
But being that Alabama can do nothing about vacated or forfeited wins, the records from 1983-2013 are as follows:
Auburn 264-111
Alabama 245-120
Interesting that we lost 30 total wins and it is still that similar.
But why do we always use 1983-present? When did that become some cut-off point, other than when Bryant retired?
Auburn 264-111
Alabama 245-120
Interesting that we lost 30 total wins and it is still that similar.
But why do we always use 1983-present? When did that become some cut-off point, other than when Bryant retired?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:18 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But I refuse to believe using book scholarships on friends allowed Alabama to win any games in 2005, 2006, or 2007.
I do agree with you. But I also find it hard to believe that not one bama athlete profited a single penny from the text-books. That's what the NCAA said anyway. All of this happened while bama was still under the 5 year window....so bama got off easy to be truthful. You gave up some wins. You didn't lose scholarships. You didn't miss out on post season. The money from the vacated games was already in the bank.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:21 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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But being that Alabama can do nothing about vacated or forfeited wins, the records from 1983-2013 are as follows: Auburn 264-111 Alabama 245-120 Interesting that we lost 30 total wins and it is still that similar. But why do we always use 1983-present? When did that become some cut-off point, other than when Bryant retired?
The interesting question is which of those would a fan prefer, including all accomplishments?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:22 pm to MrAUTigers
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I do agree with you. But I also find it hard to believe that not one bama athlete profited a single penny from the text-books. That's what the NCAA said anyway. All of this happened while bama was still under the 5 year window....so bama got off easy to be truthful. You gave up some wins. You didn't lose scholarships. You didn't miss out on post season. The money from the vacated games was already in the bank.
I know exactly how it worked. I was on scholarship at Alabama and had use of a book scholarship. It wasn't hard to get books for friends. But the system didn't allow for money to exchange hands. Similar programs at Nebraska and UNI existed and they were not punished after investigation.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:26 pm to mbogo
Let's use 2007-present. It seems as arbitrary as 1983, 1993, or any other.
Alabama 79-15
Auburn 59-32
Or 2004-present:
Alabama 80-30
Auburn 92-37
Maybe the previous ten years is always a better indicator. I don't know.
Alabama 79-15
Auburn 59-32
Or 2004-present:
Alabama 80-30
Auburn 92-37
Maybe the previous ten years is always a better indicator. I don't know.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:29 pm to IAmReality
Seriously, this ridiculous thread is still going on?
Let's just clear everything up from an outsider's perspective:
1) Auburn? Bama clearly has a better football history and tradition than you do. You can argue until you're sort of reddish orange-y in the face and shuffle around numbers and write fascinating science fiction wherein the Bear was never born, but every football fan in the country who isn't motivated by personal issues on the matter would agree.
2) Bama? Auburn has a damned good history. Why would you even want to deny it? It's part of the mystique of college football in Alabama, with two great programs going up against each other year after year (except for that decades-long snit back in the day), with both programs worthy of being called traditional national powerhouses. Auburn has been around since the early days of Southern football and has acquitted itself quite well.
Are we agreed? If not, hush and nod agreeably anyway because you're wrong.
Let's just clear everything up from an outsider's perspective:
1) Auburn? Bama clearly has a better football history and tradition than you do. You can argue until you're sort of reddish orange-y in the face and shuffle around numbers and write fascinating science fiction wherein the Bear was never born, but every football fan in the country who isn't motivated by personal issues on the matter would agree.
2) Bama? Auburn has a damned good history. Why would you even want to deny it? It's part of the mystique of college football in Alabama, with two great programs going up against each other year after year (except for that decades-long snit back in the day), with both programs worthy of being called traditional national powerhouses. Auburn has been around since the early days of Southern football and has acquitted itself quite well.
Are we agreed? If not, hush and nod agreeably anyway because you're wrong.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:37 pm to Irons Puppet
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The new bama mantra. Keep denying, but those in the know talk freely about it. It is not corrupt to report numbers to USNWR that help propagate the Presidents Mission. The concern among some alumni is that over 50% of the student body is from out of state. They fear that these students are academic mercenaries, and when the money dries up so will the student population. This would leave an infrastructure for 30K Students with only 20K candidates. Long term results would be a permanent watering down of the academics.
You upset because we're the highest ranked school in the state?
Still waiting on a Link to a news article about Bama fudging statistics.
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