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re: Why is Auburn the only member of the "big 6" unable to sustain success?

Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:08 pm to
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:08 pm to
We get it, you had a good run in the 80's and an ok run in the early to mid 2000's.

This thread is for discussing the other 90 or so years of mediocrity and inconsistency.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 8:09 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:09 pm to
Bama won 32 games from 2000-2007. 8 years, 4 wins per year on average.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:09 pm to
Well there is a very big difference in 125-55 record and a 104-55 record.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:10 pm to
You're manipulating it to make a point. A dumb one, but albeit a point.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

We get it, you had a good run in the 80's and an ok run in the early to mid 2000's. This thread is for discussing the other 90 or so years of mediocrity and inconsistency.


So after discovering that AU and Bama have the exact same record over the last few decades, you now want to talk about football that happened before everyone here was born?

A bad response thread.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:12 pm to
And...
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

This thread is for discussing the other 90 or so years of mediocrity and inconsistency.


That's just it. Your statement is total bullshite. Auburn has had some bad years. bama has had far more periods of getting down, and staying down, than Auburn has. Truthfully, bama has had two great era's. That is what you base the success of your entire history on.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:13 pm to
Guilty as charged.

Lots of selective ammo to pick and chose from last decade.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:13 pm to
Not close to true. Not close to the same record. Be serious for a change.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:13 pm to
Two great eras? That's a riot. More down periods? That's even better.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:14 pm to
Oh my. Oh my.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

So you're belittling us for becoming a more popular school to apply to? Okay, we mustn't be improving in quality then. Explain the consistent increase in average GPA and and ACT scores for me in layman's terms since I have no clue what I'm talking about after being a student worker in the office of admissions for two years of undergrad.


So I guess the stories of special entrance waivers that HS Counselors talk about students getting into Bama are false ? How they fail to use those students when they report numbers. How they are offering the moon to students with high ACTs to counter the numbers of those marginal students. The President has a plan and facts be damned.
Posted by Wallacewade04
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

That's just it. Your statement is total bullshite. Auburn has had some bad years. bama has had far more periods of getting down, and staying down, than Auburn has. Truthfully, bama has had two great era's. That is what you base the success of your entire history on.


this is stupid

look if it's important to you we've won more games and conference titles than you have over that period - breaking it down into eras that you then want to discredit doesn't really change that
Posted by Wallacewade04
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

So I guess the stories of special entrance waivers that HS Counselors talk about students getting into Bama are false ? How they fail to use those students when they report numbers. How they are offering the moon to students with high ACTs to counter the numbers of those marginal students. The President has a plan and facts be damned.


yes your whole point is stupid that is what we're saying
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:19 pm to
Want to go there?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:21 pm to
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Two great eras?


Yes, two great era's. You "claim" a bunch of retroactive NC's, that any one of 6-7 other teams could "claim" a NC in that same year. The bear era, and saban's era, are the two era's. Stalling's had a few good years. He also got you put on probation. I am quite sure that wasn't his only transgression while at bama. I don't ever remember Auburn having a run like bama had from '97-2007. You can do some research. I would like to know if Auburn was that bad for that period of time.

Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

Winning percentages (in order, from best to worst)

LINK

Last 5 years
1. Bama
2. LSU
3. USC
4. AU
5. Missouri
6. UF
7. UGA
8. A&M
9. Arkansas
10. Miss State
11. Ole Miss
12. UT
13. Vandy
14. UK

Last 10 years
1. LSU
2. Bama
3. UF
4. UGA
5. AU
6. Missouri
7. USC
8. A&M
9. Arkansas
10. UT
11. Miss State
12. Ole Miss
13. Vandy
14. Kentucky

Last 15 years
1. LSU
2. UGA
3. UF
4. AU
5. Bama
6. UT
7. USC
8. Missouri
9. A&M
10. Arkansas
11. Ole Miss
12. Miss State
13. Kentucky
14. Vandy

Last 20 years
1. UF
2. LSU
3. UGA
4. AU
5. Bama
6. UT
7. A&M
8. Arkansas
9. Missouri
10. USC
11. Ole Miss
12. Miss State
13. UK
14. Vandy

Last 25 years
1. UF
2. UT
3. UGA
4. AU
5. Bama
6. LSU
7. A&M
8. Arkansas
9. USC
10. Ole Miss
11. Missouri
12. Miss State
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt

Last 30 years
1. UF
2. AU
3. UT
4. UGA
5. LSU
6. Bama
7. A&M
8. Arkansas
9. USC
10. Ole Miss
11. Missouri
12. Miss State
13. Kentucky
14. Vandy

Auburn, UGA, and UF have only been out of the top 4 in winning percentage over the last 30 years once.

LSU? Twice.

Bama and UT? 4 times.

What's this I hear about consistency?



This thread should've ended here.
Posted by Patton
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:25 pm to
Yes because that stat that makes AU look great is better and more valuable than all the other ones put forth in here.
This post was edited on 4/22/14 at 8:26 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

That's just it. Your statement is total bullshite. Auburn has had some bad years. bama has had far more periods of getting down, and staying down, than Auburn has. Truthfully, bama has had two great era's. That is what you base the success of your entire history on.


Since you used the terms eras, I suppose you want to talk about the entire history of the program.

Wallace Wade was the first great era. He put Alabama on the map, from 1923-1930 he went 61-13 and brought Alabama the first Rose Bowl wins of any southern school.

Frank Thomas succeeded him and went 115-24-7 from 1931-1946. He won two more Rose Bowls and had a certain young coach on his staff.

Alabama was solid through the mid-1950s under Harold Drew. He was 54-28-7 from 1947-1954. Ears Whitworth is the first "down period" from 1955-1957.

Paul Bryant took over in 1958 and coached until 1983. His record of 232-46-9 speaks for itself.

Alabama was again solid throughout the 1980s, under Perkins and Curry. But could never get back to previous decades.

Gene Stallings brought the next great era with a 70-16-1 record and Alabama's first national title since 1979.

The second down period truly lived up to its name. It last far longer than the three years of Whitworth. Several coaching changes and only one conference title from 1997-2006.

Then of course there is the Nick Saban era. I think that one speaks for itself. Or you can just refer to my signature.
Posted by Wallacewade04
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Member since Dec 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

Yes, two great era's. You "claim" a bunch of retroactive NC's, that any one of 6-7 other teams could "claim" a NC in that same year. The bear era, and saban's era, are the two era's. Stalling's had a few good years. He also got you put on probation. I am quite sure that wasn't his only transgression while at bama. I don't ever remember Auburn having a run like bama had from '97-2007. You can do some research. I would like to know if Auburn was that bad for that period of time.


look your era argument is flawed

you can't just section shite off and then act like certain parts are more important than others

and if you want to talk about coaches getting teams put on probation and acting shady remember that your team play on Pat Dye Field
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