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re: All You Trolls Who Believe Pinkel and Coaching Staff Protecting DGB

Posted on 4/11/14 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 3:37 pm to
Coaching staff ain't protecting him no mo', he gone.
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 3:41 pm to
Mizzou letter to espn

When the info came out, Mizzou asked her parents if they'd like an investigation done, as I would suspect is proper when dealing with somebody that just lost their daughter. The parents never responded. Considering their own failure to notify anybody that their daughter had a history of mental illness and suicide attempts, I would guess they were stricken with grief as well as regret for taking preventative measures. At some point they did talk to ESPN, and with the hatchet job being framed as a Mizzou cover-up, University administration were then forced to do something.

Pretty shitty situation for everybody involved. The girl should have received help, but the only parties that supposedly knew were the perpetrators and one counselor bound by HIPAA.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 3:44 pm to
no doubt a bad situation for everybody. Hope there is no repeat for anybody, anywhere.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32407 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 3:55 pm to
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The girl should have received help, but the only parties that supposedly knew were the perpetrators and one counselor bound by HIPAA.
What did counselor know? From whom would she have gotten help (had this pesky little thing called HIPAA not gotten in the way)?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111676 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 4:44 pm to
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THE ADMINISTRATION DID! Missouri officials knew the information. I have copied and pasted it numerous times. Have you not seen it?


You don't know shite. Stfu already. If you're going to troll a fanbase over a rape, at least get the facts right.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58952 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 4:56 pm to
A little late to the party, aren't you 808?

Just read the article...and the latest investigation report quotes a spokesperson that says that Missou admin dropped the ball. but I'm sure YOU know better, right?
Posted by tobythetiger
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
428 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Well...unlike Missou fans I will condemn these actions and not try to defend them with excuses and calling others stupid or ill informed.


What an idiot. No one is defending rape, and it has been pointed out to you numerous times that the only 'university officials' who knew about what (or what might have) happened were bound by HIPPA to keep it confidential.

You do understand what confidential means, correct?

With the Washington and Dixon incidents, there were some who questioned if anything had actually happened, or had happened as it was initially reported. Once it became clear, I saw no one defending either kid-and both were removed from the university, Dixon without ever being charged with a crime.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111676 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 5:26 pm to
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Just read the article...and the latest investigation report quotes a spokesperson that says that Missou admin dropped the ball. but I'm sure YOU know better, right?
I know more about it than you. What did they drop the ball with regards to specifically? Feel free to quote liberally from any statement from the university you ignorant peasant.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32407 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 6:18 pm to
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knew about what (or what might have) happened were bound by HIPPA to keep it confidential


Common mistake for the common folk but it's HIPAA. But that is a bullshite crutch the school used. I would say FERPA probably had more bearing on that than HIPAA.
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You do understand what confidential means, correct?
They chose to do so but it was a decision on the part of the school. Besides, even if it fell under a HIPAA or FERPA violation, it's a civil penalty and one worth risking if you get a rapist off of the streets.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111676 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 6:38 pm to
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But that is a bull shite crutch the school used.

A health professional following the law is a bullshite crutch? It's weird in the south, I guess.
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 6:45 pm to
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They chose to do so but it was a decision on the part of the school. Besides, even if it fell under a HIPAA or FERPA violation, it's a civil penalty and one worth risking if you get a rapist off of the streets.


So your beef is with Sasha's counselor for upholding HIPAA and not going against Sasha's wishes to keep it private?

Even if this made sense to be mad about, it's a huge leap and shows extra stupidity on your part to assume some kind of negligence on the part of the administration.

Although, I doubt you really care and are just stirring shite about the rape/suicide of a troubled girl, which makes you a real scummy piece of shite.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32407 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 6:54 pm to
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A health professional following the law is a bull shite crutch? It's weird in the south, I guess.

What law?

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Law Enforcement Purposes. Covered entities may disclose protected health information to law enforcement officials for law enforcement purposes under the following six circumstances, and subject to specified conditions: (1) as required by law (including court orders, court-ordered warrants, subpoenas) and administrative requests; (2) to identify or locate a suspect, fugitive, material witness, or missing person; (3) in response to a law enforcement official’s request for information about a victim or suspected victim of a crime; (4) to alert law enforcement of a person’s death, if the covered entity suspects that criminal activity caused the death; (5) when a covered entity believes that protected health information is evidence of a crime that occurred on its premises; and (6) by a covered health care provider in a medical emergency not occurring on its premises, when necessary to inform law enforcement about the commission and nature of a crime, the location of the crime or crime victims, and the perpetrator of the crime.34


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Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:01 pm to
So every time a girl goes to a counselor seeking confidential help, the person providing help should break their trust by going to police?

Are you too dumb to see how this is terrible policy?

Furthermore, this doesn't even apply as per your own quoted source:
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in a medical emergency

that is very key here. It was weeks after it occurred and not a "medical emergency". This is saying that when there is an emergency, where time is of the essence, and they need info immediately, then it is ok for the provider to break confidentiality.

I'm actually hoping you're this stupid, because that's better than the alternative of you being this big of a piece of shite.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:05 pm to
Mizzou dismisses a star player and this turns into a troll over the swimmer?

I'm shocked.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32407 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:10 pm to
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that is very key here.
I worked in healthcare 35 years. I can push a button and make anything I want an emergency. Did she refuse a release on her PHI?
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:14 pm to
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I worked in healthcare 35 years. I can push a button and make anything I want an emergency. Did she refuse a release on her PHI?


If she didn't file a report with anyone and her parents didn't even want an investigation, then who the hell is someone trusted with confidential info, supposed to just be someone to talk to, to make it her business to go against her wishes?

What the frick kind of thought process is that to make decisions like that for an adult?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111676 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:22 pm to
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Did she refuse a release on her PHI?

Well there ya go. You aren't an idiot.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32407 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:24 pm to
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If she didn't file a report with anyone and her parents didn't even want an investigation, then who the hell is someone trusted with confidential info, supposed to just be someone to talk to, to make it her business to go against her wishes?

That's fine. You don't understand healthcare and how we work.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111676 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 7:24 pm to
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What the frick kind of thought process is that to make decisions like that for an adult?
And every rape crisis center would become far less useful if they all had to immediately report every rape which was reported to them.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32407 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:37 pm to
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And every rape crisis center would become far less useful if they all had to immediately report every rape which was reported to them.

So you have a volunteer sitting at the phone at a RCC and someone calls alleging rape, and the volunteer is going to make the determination that it should not be reported?
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