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re: All You Trolls Who Believe Pinkel and Coaching Staff Protecting DGB
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:39 pm to Diamondawg
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:39 pm to Diamondawg
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So you have a volunteer sitting at the phone at a RCC and someone calls alleging rape, and the volunteer is going to make the determination that it should not be reported?
So you have a medical professional with a button that can turn anything into an emergency and they're going to make the determination that it should be reported?
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Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:08 pm to Mizzeaux
quote:Oopps! You missed that part about "medical professional" and volunteer. Medical professional - trained. Volunteer - reading off of a poop sheet that says do this if that happens.
So you have a medical professional with a button that can turn anything into an emergency and they're going to make the determination that it should be reported?
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:19 pm to Diamondawg
Medical professional is a pretty loose term. I have a dipshit family member that is a trained medical professional after graduating from a school that advertises during The Maury Show.
Add that to my idiot friends that are doctors and I'd pretty much leave it as it is right now.
Add that to my idiot friends that are doctors and I'd pretty much leave it as it is right now.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:24 pm to Mizzeaux
quote:Good choice. Your argument makes no sense. Good night!
I'd pretty much leave it as it is right now.
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:32 pm to Diamondawg
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So you have a volunteer sitting at the phone at a RCC and someone calls alleging rape, and the volunteer is going to make the determination that it should not be reported?
Read any rape crisis manual and see what they say about police reporting and consent. Read public policy interpretations of HIPAA with regards to the same question. Or read the VAWA act of 1995.
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Although HIPAA permits disclosure of protected health information of a victim of domestic violence without her consent in certain, limited circumstances, it does not require it, and advocacy agencies can help medical providers understand that they should rarely, if ever, share a victim's protected health information with government authorities unless absolutely required to do so.
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Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:33 pm to Diamondawg
Sorry. I'm on the phone now and I forgot what my point was going to be when I first posted in the thread.
Either way, asking someone to do anything above and above and beyond their normal duties seems like a tall task, especially in a fairly corporate environment where litigation can be involved.
She did what was required and nothing more. If thats the issue that people want to address and argue about, I think I'd be fine with that. Anything above and beyond is trolling or arguing for the sake of argument.
Either way, asking someone to do anything above and above and beyond their normal duties seems like a tall task, especially in a fairly corporate environment where litigation can be involved.
She did what was required and nothing more. If thats the issue that people want to address and argue about, I think I'd be fine with that. Anything above and beyond is trolling or arguing for the sake of argument.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 8:20 am to outlawjoseywales
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Everyone dropped the ball on this poor girl. Especially her family. Would have been nice of the family to tell the University that she had bouts of depression and taking medicine BEFORE she went to MU. There reasoning, valid, was "she would not get a scholarship from any school if they knew. And if we told MU she would have lost her scholarship."
I'm sorry. Are you saying it is partly the families fault? Why in the hell is it the families duties to tell the University ANY personal information on their daughter. It is not any of their damn business. If the university had done THEIR job right this girl may still be alive
Posted on 4/12/14 at 8:57 am to zdawg18
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If the university had done THEIR job right this girl may still be alive
Congrats on knowing next to nothing about the case.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:22 am to zdawg18
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I'm sorry. Are you saying it is partly the families fault? Why in the hell is it the families duties to tell the University ANY personal information on their daughter. It is not any of their damn business. If the university had done THEIR job right this girl may still be alive
If your daughter has known mental illnesses and has attempted suicide, and she's being sent out of the country to go to school, you really don't think that you would line up some kind of support system where she's going.
Way to live up to the stereotypes of being dipshits, Mississippi State fans.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:23 am to Mizzeaux
quote:Having a whole organization with all of their employees doing just enough is not a very good organization
Either way, asking someone to do anything above and above and beyond their normal duties seems like a tall task, especially in a fairly corporate environment where litigation can be involved.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:29 am to Diamondawg
You've apparently run away from your earlier assertion or are hoping it will quietly go away.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:45 am to the808bass
quote:I asserted that there was nothing in HIPAA that would prevent someone from reporting it while most Missouri fans asserted that "they were bound by HIPAA" not to release. I stand by that. What will quietly go away?
You've apparently run away from your earlier assertion or are hoping it will quietly go away.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:06 am to Diamondawg
Why don't you ask your employer about their HIPAA policy with regards to reporting rapes or sexual assaults to law enforcement and report back?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:17 am to tobythetiger
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What an idiot. No one is defending rape, and it has been pointed out to you numerous times that the only 'university officials' who knew about what (or what might have) happened were bound by HIPPA to keep it confidential.
No. the only people bound by HIPPA were the medical people. the articles linked clearly says that administration was made aware a year ago. In the latest investigation that was started by Missouri, a spokesperson from the University clearly says that the ADMINISTRATION clearly dropped the ball.
I understand that you might not want to go through all the links...but don't comment if you don't know what you are talking about. MISSOURI officials ADMIT they dropped the ball. The only people that deny they dropped the ball are fans of Missouri.
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With the Washington and Dixon incidents, there were some who questioned if anything had actually happened, or had happened as it was initially reported. Once it became clear, I saw no one defending either kid-and both were removed from the university, Dixon without ever being charged with a crime.
It is good that Missouri did the right thing in dumping these two. It's a shame they let the swimmer down, though, don't you think? Of course, she was let down by many people around her....not just the University of Missouri.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:19 am to the808bass
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What did they drop the ball with regards to specifically?
You would have to ask the spokesperson for the University on that. he would know more about that than either of us, don't you agree? he said it, I didn't.
Ignorant peasant? Really? Anyone that points out something wrong with your University is an ignorant peasant? Nice. Get personal.
It was YOUR spokesperson that said they dropped the ball. Call YOUR representatives ignorant peasants, not me.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:22 am to the808bass
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A health professional following the law is a bull shite crutch? It's weird in the south, I guess.
Read the article again. It clearly says that health professionals knew about the rape AND an administrator...drawing a clear line that they were someone other than a health professional. But you keep ignoring this. Are you a Democrat? They like to repeat falsehoods over and over, too, hoping someone will believe them.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:25 am to MIZ_COU
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Mizzou dismisses a star player and this turns into a troll over the swimmer?
I'm shocked.
No. we are simply showing how Missou routinely tries to squash bad publicity and shields star players from negative publicity no matter the cost to other students. There is a clear precedent.
And your clear disdain for "the swimmer" shows you agree with this policy. The swimmer committed suicide.
Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:25 am to DawgsLife
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You would have to ask the spokesperson for the University on that. he would know more about that than either of us, don't you agree? he said it, I didn't.
You said very early in this thread that the university knew about the rape in 2010. No one from the University of Missouri System who was not a healthcare professional knew about the rape allegation in 2010. You're perpetuating a false perspective driven by shoddy/sensationalist covering of the incident by ESPN. The university dropped the ball on investigating the rape after it was informed of it unfortunately long after the girl's death. The reason roadhouse kept asking who in the "administration" knew of this is because no one knew until it was too late to help her.
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:27 am to DawgsLife
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There is a clear precedent.
So DGB is still in school? Where did Michael Dixon play basketball this year?
Posted on 4/12/14 at 11:28 am to roadhouse
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If she didn't file a report with anyone and her parents didn't even want an investigation, then who the hell is someone trusted with confidential info, supposed to just be someone to talk to, to make it her business to go against her wishes?
I think the point, roadhouse, goes back to the DBG case. When people press charges against a star athlete they are pressured to keep quiet by the university community as a whole.
Don't get me wrong. this is in no way a problem only at Missouri. You, or someone pointed out how it is a problem at Georgia, too. it is endemic in college athletics. It needs to be changed at Missouri, Georgia and many other campuses across the country. but if people (fans) keep excusing this behavior nothing will ever get done about it.
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