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re: What's the biggest myth, you were taught in school as being fact?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:46 pm to 3nOut
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:46 pm to 3nOut
You also brought up her religious craziness. This is what I usually think about when the Tea Party is brought up. You took from that that I must think she's a bad person. Somebody can be a good person, but that doesn't mean I'm comfortable with them in a political role.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:56 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Is there big money in Fostering children?
Absolutely. We have parents all the time that foster 7-8 kids to get "the check". And because Child Protective Services is often lumped in with cuts to welfare, the regulatory system that keeps it in check is overloaded. Very, very easy to con the foster system right now.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:57 pm to UMTigerRebel
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You also brought up her religious craziness. This is what I usually think about when the Tea Party is brought up
Why does that instantly make you think of that. Is it what you personally saw as they represented themselves, or what you saw presented to you by media that caused you to form that opinion?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:59 pm to Alahunter
Everyone is equal. Simply not true.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:00 pm to BluegrassBelle
Yep. On the flip side, there are good folks that do foster children. A buddy of mine and his wife have done it the past 4 or 5 yrs, one child at a time. They finally finalized an adoption with the last one they took in. Long legal battle to get the mothers rights stripped, but necessary. Tried to allow her visitation and she'd show up stoned on meth. Child had to have heart valve surgery and my buddy and his wife took her to Nashville for it. The mother showed up stoned and asking for money before she even asked about the little girl. Foster care does work in many instances, but as you said, it can be abused. It's all about the people allowed to take part in it.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:06 pm to Alahunter
quote:Bachmann, Palin, and Trump became the public face of the tea party. They actively sought the publicity. The media does what the media does. Put on what ever get's the highest ratings to make the most money. Capitalism.
Why does that instantly make you think of that. Is it what you personally saw as they represented themselves, or what you saw presented to you by media that caused you to form that opinion?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:06 pm to Alahunter
Was she not the chairman of the Congressional Tea Party caucus? I admit I probably generalized because of that.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:09 pm to MIZ_COU
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The media does what the media does
And the people mindlessly accept it, without actually finding out for themselves.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:11 pm to UMTigerRebel
I have no idea. I was just curious as to how folks make their minds up about what a certain groups ideals were and what their priorities are.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:12 pm to UMTigerRebel
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Was she not the chairman of the Congressional Tea Party caucus?
She was the founder of it, but let's leave logic out of this.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:14 pm to UMTigerRebel
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Was she not the chairman of the Congressional Tea Party caucus? I admit I probably generalized because of that.
Yes, she was chairman of the Caucus she started.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:17 pm to the808bass
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CNBC's Rick Santelli is widely credited with launching the grassroots movement. While standing on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange on February 19, 2009, he unleashed what can only be called a rant against the Obama Administration's proposal to help homeowners facing foreclosure refinance their mortgages
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Santelli, however, can't claim credit as the sole mastermind of the movement. Prior to his appearance in Chicago, Keli Carender, a Seattle at-home mother also known as Liberty Belle, had been using her blog to get the word out about the populist "Porkulus Protest" she was organizing against President Barack Obama's proposed $750 billion stimulus package. About 100 people showed up for her event in mid-February. Similar events inspired by both Santelli and Carender, followed in quick succession in Denver; Mesa, Ariz.; Tampa, Fla.; and other cities. Tea Party organizers claim that the first nationwide Tea Party protest took place on February 27, 2009, with coordinated events occurring in more than 40 cities.
Santelli or Carender... which is Palin's alias?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:19 pm to The Spleen
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She was the founder of it, but let's leave logic out of this
Or truth.. right? Because, who needs that...
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:21 pm to Alahunter
I saw Santelli's rant live!
Let's not act like that's representative of the actual Tea Party though. There's a reason people like Bachmann were able to make themselves the "face" of the movement. TPers aren't religious nuts though, I agree. They are one of the irrational crazies of the political persuasion.
Let's not act like that's representative of the actual Tea Party though. There's a reason people like Bachmann were able to make themselves the "face" of the movement. TPers aren't religious nuts though, I agree. They are one of the irrational crazies of the political persuasion.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:24 pm to Alahunter
Truth? You seemed to be questioning why someone would associate Michelle Bachmann with the Tea Party. I think there's a logical reason people may do that give she was the founder of the Congressional Tea Party Caucus.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:24 pm to Alahunter
And the fact that the Tea Party movement started organically and locally made it harder for the opposition to attack. They needed to personify it. And a mad blogger in Seattle wouldn't do.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:26 pm to The Spleen
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Truth? You seemed to be questioning why someone would associate Michelle Bachmann with the Tea Party. I think there's a logical reason people may do that give she was the founder of the Congressional Tea Party Caucus.
I actually find that far less compelling. Self-appointed leaders are a dime a dozen.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:27 pm to Duke
Ok back to myths..
Private Banks lending money needing only a %10 margin thereby creating a private money supply that can be manipulated so the banks can siphon as much off the top as possible is a good thing.
Private Banks lending money needing only a %10 margin thereby creating a private money supply that can be manipulated so the banks can siphon as much off the top as possible is a good thing.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:29 pm to The Spleen
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Truth? You seemed to be questioning why someone would associate Michelle Bachmann with the Tea Party
I did no such thing. I asked why one person associated religious zeal with the Tea Party. Because of media, or personal observation.
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I think there's a logical reason people may do that give she was the founder of the Congressional Tea Party Caucus.
I see you fail to acknowledge that you were off the reservation with your assumption. There's no logical reason to believe she founded it, when it was already in full swing before she ever gave a speech to them. Your assumptions, don't make truth. They just showed your blind ignorance on the statement made. Arguing further to justify it, well..
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:32 pm to the808bass
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I actually find that far less compelling. Self-appointed leaders are a dime a dozen.
True. Bachmann is just an opportunistic politician that saw an opportunity to increase her star, and pounced on it. It goes back to what I alluded to earlier that the Tea Party movement and the evangelical right movement have gotten intermingled because a lot of the evangelical politicians have attached themselves to the Tea Party movement. They're both co-dependent on each other to remain relevant.
The Tea Party movement started with altruistic ideals, but along the way got hijacked by evangelicals and corporatists(yes, the Koch brothers) That is why people associate some of the wingnuts in politics with the Tea Party, whether that's fair or unfair.
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