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re: Mike Dixon... Dont expect him back soon.

Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:35 am to
I agree, but if this gets public the University will consider the PR hit. Fair or not. I mean we have been through this type of shite enough. I honestly hope he didnt do anything and we can just move on, but I am not optimistic about this. Honestly if I am Dixon, start studying man. Hit the books hard. Seriously.

If it was one or the other, I would be feeling better but with grades and the case its not a good look for him right now.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111565 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:37 am to
If she's trying to influence the process, this is going to look like a Duke case in no time at all. And it will get dragged out for months. And Mike Dixon will probably not play for us this year.

The taking it to Twitter by this young woman really is a brain bender. I can understand from either side, but it's still just mind-blowing.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111565 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:39 am to
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I agree, but now that it's public the University will consider the PR hit.


FIFY.
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:41 am to
It's just an all around shitty situation that is in the hands of the hands of the kings in this hierarchy. I just have to hope they make a good decision that is best for the university and based on truth. If he did this, his arse needs to be kicked. If he didn't do this, then this will ruin his life because he broke some poor girls heart.
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5033 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:49 am to
So apparently now I am hearing that this isnt Dixon's first time in front of the board, perhaps in a similar situation.


Take it with a grain of salt, as this is just a random poster on PM, but even Gabe DeArmond has said he known to make pretty poor decisions.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111565 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:10 am to
I know there was a rumor about cheating on a test. I'm not sure how much that should weigh in the current case. If it was an analogous situation, I'd think he already gone. And we wouldn't be hearing anything but the aftermath.
This post was edited on 11/24/12 at 10:11 am
Posted by svb
Missouri Fan
Member since Jun 2012
3127 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:29 am to
I am staying slightly optimistic about this because if he did rape her, then how come charges weren't pressed? Surely in any case of rape, charges are pressed.

But after hearing what you guys have said about Mike's off court life I dunno.
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:48 am to
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:56 am to
So I've seen/heard a lot of people wanting Dixon back and lots of #freeDixon going around. We don't know the facts though and by doing this our fanbase is dropping to a very low level. I hate to make this comparison, but if Dixon did rape this girl and the fans are supporting Dixon, this looks a little like the JoePa/Penn State situation. I think people need to be careful about what they are saying and wait for a verdict.

ETA: I say this is similar to Penn State in the way that fans/students rallied and supported JoePa completely disregarding the facts.
This post was edited on 11/24/12 at 10:57 am
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
2185 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:16 am to
Attention whore? She honestly should not be publicizing this.
Posted by svb
Missouri Fan
Member since Jun 2012
3127 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:21 am to
Honestly I don't think most people even know that rape is what he is being accused of. I didn't know til reading this thread last night and if I didn't read it (or TB) then I wouldn't of known probably.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15237 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:26 am to
After seeing her tweets, it's hard to gauge whether she is a vindictive nutcase that didn't get her way, or he actually did sexually abuse her.

I'm not taking sides as I have no idea of course. Either way the university goes with this, they are walking into a PR minefield. We as fans are so snake bitten that it leaves one with the impression this can only happen at Mizzou.
Posted by FightTigers
Missourah
Member since Oct 2011
2693 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:26 am to
I think the Columbia tribune just went public with this story, were frickkkkkeeeeedddd. This team without Dixon is an 8 seed probably. Once again mizzou sports have kicked me in the nuts.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:53 am to
quote:

After seeing her tweets, it's hard to gauge whether she is a vindictive nutcase that didn't get her way, or he actually did sexually abuse her.

I'm not taking sides as I have no idea of course. Either way the university goes with this, they are walking into a PR minefield. We as fans are so snake bitten that it leaves one with the impression this can only happen at Mizzou.


Of course I could be wrong, but if I had to bet, I'd bet she's full of shite. Rape victims do not go pronouncing, almost bragging about it, on twitter. I know it's a private school but we had almost an identical situation at SLU a few years back and you never heard mum from the alleged victim.

If you use the SLU case as any sort of guideline, there were at least 3 players accused in the incident. One was a freshman and moved immediately. 2 of the better players on the team were initially kicked out of the school by the school board/student court, whatever you call it. After the appeal, they were expelled just for the semester and could come back after that if they met certain requirements. Classes, letters of apology etc...One player was a thug POS and didn't go to class so he was gone. The other quietly went about his business and is back with the team. Like this case, there wasn't shite to bring charges on but there was, at least, a police report. Anyone know if there was even a police report filed on the night of the alleged incident?

The other thing I'll say from that experience is that these student board hearings are bull shite. Those brought before it aren't allowed to bring forward all the evidence on their behalf. The alleged victim was allowed to have her family (dad was also a lawyer) and a personal lawyer present at the hearing. Those brought before it were not.

Bottom line, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dixon back but not until Brown comes back unless this public battle of words on twitter gains legs and forces some to take a stronger stance than they otherwise would.
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5033 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 1:03 pm to
Didnt you have a Free Mike Dixon up earlier?


But I agree, on this we might need to not throw support or lay blame immediately. Just let it play out. I just texted my boy at Mizzou. He had no clue about the sex assault, but thought it was about cheating on a test. I take it that this is what the public pretty much thinks the problem is. She is without a doubt holding up on my theory. She is going to try to win this with public opinion. She will try to get the outrage of the public to pressure decision makers into what she wants.
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1571 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Didnt you have a Free Mike Dixon up earlier?


Lol yes I did, but then I thought about it and realized I don't really want to support this guy if there is a chance he is a rapist. I'll wait for some more info.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111565 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 4:01 pm to
Unbelievably fricked up.
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15237 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 4:24 pm to
Here is the latest from PM. This is from someone that many believe has insider status.

"If he's reinstated, everything remains sealed under student privacy law guidelines. Another factor in Mike's favor. If he's booted from school, every detail will eventually become public, which is going to be a black eye on the university for the way in which they've handled this. And for the young lady involved, well it's going to be as ugly as the Kobe Bryant accuser's case.

TiS, you say no case is a "slam dunk," well that case was. She accused Kobe of raping her in his hotel room, his team or attorneys and investigators found out she had three different, random dudes each of the three nights prior to meeting Kobe, when presented with that character-based evidence, she recanted her story and case closed.

The same was true in this case. When the prosecutor saw the evidence from Mike's phone, a veritable porn novel of all the things she was going to do to his D, he didn't bother pursuing it. The young lady, still holding a strong degree of malice towards Mike for not wanting a relationship with her, took the Student Conduct Board approach because she believed it would help her to keep her name clean. A civil case against him would not, but a campus "case" would due to student privacy laws.

The bottom line here is that the known facts are the two had sex, pre- and post-rut there are text messages from the young lady that certainly make it appear as if the sex was more than consensual, a prosecuting attorney didn't even want to touch the case, and now Mike is held up in a mire of campus politics that involves gender issues, veto power between the chancellor and campus committees, and the jealous line in the sand drawn between athletics and academics. Basically it sucks. IMO Mike should be playing and I think it is unfair for the Student Conduct Committee to judge this case alongside any past, utterly unrelated situations. I know it's supposedly within their "power" to do so, but I still think it is crap. It's fair to state that Mike has been inconsistent as a student, but he's still on track to graduate, and in any instance when Mike has been admonished or punished for anything academic related, he's handled it like a man, accepted punishment and learned from it. If Mike had multiple legal close calls and then this happened, well you're talking another story then, but that's not the case. His other past "strikes" against him fall on the academic side, and to me it's simply bullshite to lump the two together.

The university needs to allow Mike to put this in his past, concentrate on finishing school and competing on the basketball floor with his teammates. That's my take on it."

Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27430 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 4:37 pm to
If she is not being truthful then she should face the Board and face expulsion.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 11/24/12 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

If she is not being truthful then she should face the Board and face expulsion.


This.

Amen.

When these type of situations backfire on girl, the girl should be humiliated and face the consequences the same what would have happened to the guy.
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