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re: Civil War nicknames for SEC states..

Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:15 pm to
Well as long as were on random spots of the Civil War here is a story that I imagine most Citadel cadets and grads are immensely proud of.

Before the 1st shots on Ft. Sumter were fired in Charleston, the Union attempted to resupply its troops there by sending a civilian ship named the Star of the West. However to block this attempt Citadel cadets on a near by island fired on the supply ship and forced it to turn back, which eventually lead to Federal troops pulling out of Ft. Sumter after a 34 barrage by CSA troops in Charleston.

Now the Citadel has an award given to the best drilled cadet (or something like that) each year called the Star of the West
Posted by calitiger
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:17 pm to
The Carter House and the Carnton Mansion are both spooky places. When I was at Vandy, we used to go the Carnton Mansion at night. I don't believe in ghosts but that place definitely had an unpleasant, uncomfortable atmosphere.
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:26 pm to
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Before the 1st shots on Ft. Sumter were fired in Charleston, the Union attempted to resupply its troops there by sending a civilian ship named the Star of the West. However to block this attempt Citadel cadets on a near by island fired on the supply ship and forced it to turn back, which eventually lead to Federal troops pulling out of Ft. Sumter after a 34 barrage by CSA troops in Charleston.

I'd love to see this area (Ft. Sumter and Charleston) and take a tour.

Some of my family came from Georgia and settled in Arkansas before and after the Civil War. A few years ago, I toured the Kennesaw Mountain Battlefield area in Georgia. That's another very interesting place.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 2:39 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:40 pm to
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I'd love to see this area (Ft. Sumter and Charleston) and take a tour. A few years ago, I toured the Kennesaw Mountain Battlefield area in Georgia. That's another very interesting place.



Yeah its a cool place to be a history place no doubt. You can still tour the actual fort via ferry. Did that when I was a kid, we had no idea but it was some type of anniversary and when we got there they had some ceremony and a line of civil war era soldiers fired a couple of rounds.

Also have huge cannons still aimed out into the harbor (known now as the battery)

Was also fortunate enough to see the actual CSS Hunley when it was raised. Was in a tank of water and couldn't take pictures but it was a sight.

Charleston is also host to the WW2 carrier USS Yorktown that can also be toured I believe.
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:43 pm to
Was in Charleston, SC over Memorial Day weekend. Folly Beach. We go there once a year. Love Charleston. Love Sumter. Love that entire area.

Great place to visit.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 2:55 pm to
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Some of my family came from Georgia and settled in Arkansas before and after the Civil War. A few years ago, I toured the Kennesaw Mountain Battlefield area in Georgia.
Where in Georgia did they come from? My great great grandfather's family was from Cobb County. His sister and her husband moved to SW Arkansas in the late 1850s. Another brother went out there as well (don't know if he was visiting or moved there) and was there when the war started. He joined McNair's Brightstar Rifles and fought at Elkhorn Tavern. They missed Shiloh but were stationed at Corinth and then moved to Shellmound (Chattanooga). While there, he transferred to the 41st Georgia and died at Perryville.

Fort Sumter is a cool place to visit, although it is nothing like it was when the first shots were fired. We went to Charleston on our honeymoon last year, and I took my wife out there. I was afraid that it would be packed with people because it was a week before the 150th anniversary, but it really wasn't that bad.
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:03 pm to
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Was also fortunate enough to see the actual CSS Hunley when it was raised. Was in a tank of water and couldn't take pictures but it was a sight.

The CSS Hunley must have been one of the earliest submarines. Amazing!
Posted by mizzoukills
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40686 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:04 pm to
Hell, divers used to go underwater in dive bells. Can you imagine?
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:15 pm to
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Where in Georgia did they come from? My great great grandfather's family was from Cobb County. His sister and her husband moved to SW Arkansas in the late 1850s.


Interesting! I had to look it up on our geneology website. Some of my family, in fact, did come from Cobb County, Georgia and settled in SW Arkansas about that time. This was fairly common around that time ...but on the other hand, we may be related.

ETA: I've bookmarked this. I'm going to do a bit more research and see what more I can find.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 3:26 pm
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:23 pm to
First submarine to sink an enemy ship. I was in Charleston for the burial of the Hundley crew. I was honored to be the lone re-enactor mason to participate in the Masonic Services for Lt Dixon, the commander. Charleston was great.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:25 pm to
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Interesting! I had to look it up on our geneology website. Some of my family, in fact, did come from Cobb County, Georgia and settled in SW Arkansas about that time. This was fairly common around that time ...but on the other hand, we may be related.
Her name was Nancy Gann. She married Alfred Slay and they had a son named John. They moved to Lafayette and Miller Counties in Arkansas in the 1850s.
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:29 pm to
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Her name was Nancy Gann. She married Alfred Slay and they had a son named John


No Effing Way!!! I'm related to Nancy Gann's sister, Willa. Willa Gann had 5 children - 2 boys and 3 girls. Her daughter, Mary Ellen Joy, is my great, great, great grandmother.
Posted by legba
at the crossroads
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:30 pm to
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The Carter House and the Carnton Mansion are both spooky places. When I was at Vandy, we used to go the Carnton Mansion at night. I don't believe in ghosts but that place definitely had an unpleasant, uncomfortable atmosphere


I live in franklin and the Carton Mansion is spooky. I am not sure if I believe in ghosts, but I know I heard foortsteps on the porch. dunno, if they were in my head and I wanted to hear something but I know I heard footsteps.
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:31 pm to
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First submarine to sink an enemy ship. I was in Charleston for the burial of the Hundley crew. I was honored to be the lone re-enactor mason to participate in the Masonic Services for Lt Dixon, the commander. Charleston was great.

Quite an honor! I'm curious as to what method was used to sink the ship. Did they use some early type of torpedo?
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:34 pm to
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dunno if they were in my head and I wanted to hear something, but I know I heard footsteps


If you listen closely, you can hear almost anything...especially ghosts. If you want to hear something bad enough, you'll hear it. And, if you hear something that doesn't actually exist, does that mean it was imagined and therefore not real? Not necessarily. Perhaps our minds are strong enough to create alternate realities. If you heard footsteps on the porch, that was your reality at that moment and therefore...it was real.

If science can theorize alternate (parallel) universes with abrupt gateways connecting them all, perhaps our minds are the gateways to alternate realities.

Which brings us to dreams...
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 3:43 pm
Posted by NCrawler
Sherwood
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:34 pm to
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Quite an honor! I'm curious as to what method was used to sink the ship. Did they use some early type of torpedo?


Long spike on the front of the sub with a large explosive attached. They rammed the ship, attaching the explosive to the hull and when they reversed, a rope attached to the explosive detonated it. They were probably a bit too close when it detonated and were lost at sea...
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 3:43 pm to
My ancestors had the surname of Barnes, so I'm not sure if there's a connection, but some did settle in the same area.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Porky
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19103 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 4:16 pm to
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Long spike on the front of the sub with a large explosive attached. They rammed the ship, attaching the explosive to the hull and when they reversed, a rope attached to the explosive detonated it. They were probably a bit too close when it detonated and were lost at sea...

That makes sense, but sounds very dangerous.
Posted by TAMU87
Austin, Texas
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:30 pm to
Texas Most famous Civil War fighting force was Hood's Texas Brigade of the Army of North Virginia, a member of Longstreet's Corps.

It initially comprised the 1st, 4th, and 5th Texas regiments, the 18th Georgia Infantry, and Hampton's South Carolina Legion.

After the battle of Antietam in 1862, the Georgians and South Carolinians were reassigned to other brigades. Then The 3rd Arkansas Infantry was added due to their being the only other trans-Mississippi regiment and single Arkansas regiment serving with Lee's army.

The Texas Brigade, along with the Stonewall Brigade from Virginia, were considered to be the Army of Northern Virginia's shock troops.By the war's end, the Texas Brigade had fought in all the battles engaged in by the Army of Northern Virginia except Chancellorsville.

The brigade's most famous action took place on the second day of the Battle of Gettysburg, during its fight for Devil's Den. Though the Confederacy ultimately lost that battle, the 1st Texas, 4th Texas, 5th Texas, and 3rd Arkansas distinguished themselves in taking Devil's Den despite being greatly outnumbered and suffering heavy casualties.

Posted by AU86
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:33 pm to
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The Carter House and the Carnton Mansion are both spooky places. When I was at Vandy, we used to go the Carnton Mansion at night. I don't believe in ghosts but that place definitely had an unpleasant, uncomfortable atmosphere
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I live in franklin and the Carton Mansion is spooky. I am not sure if I believe in ghosts, but I know I heard foortsteps on the porch. dunno, if they were in my head and I wanted to hear something but I know I heard footsteps.


Beginning at 4 p.m. on November 30, 1864, Carnton was witness to one of the bloodiest battles of the entire Civil War. Everything the McGavock family ever knew was forever changed. The Confederate Army of Tennessee furiously assaulted the Federal army entrenched along the southern edge of Franklin. The resulting battle, believed to be the bloodiest five hours of the Civil War, involved a massive frontal assault larger than Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg. The majority of the combat occurred in the dark and at close quarters. The Battle of Franklin lasted barely five hours and led to some 9,500 soldiers being killed, wounded, captured, or counted as missing. Nearly 7,000 of that number were Confederate troops. Carnton served as the largest field hospital in the area for hundreds of wounded and dying Confederate soldiers

A staff officer later wrote that "the wounded, in hundreds, were brought to [the house] during the battle, and all the night after. And when the noble old house could hold no more, the yard was appropriated until the wounded and dead filled that...."

On the morning of December 1, 1864 the bodies of four Confederate generals killed during the fighting, Patrick R. Cleburne, Hiram B. Granbury, John Adams, and Otho F. Strahl, lay on Carnton’s back porch. The floors of the restored home are still stained with the blood of the men who were treated here.

In early 1866, John and Carrie McGavock designated two acres of land adjacent to their family cemetery as a final burial place for nearly 1,500 Confederate soldiers killed during the Battle of Franklin. The McGavocks maintained the cemetery until their respective deaths.

I have camped out there beside the McGavock Mansion at Carnton years ago. Would you believe me if I told you that late that night I looked up to the second story window and thought I saw someone staring out that window at us? I do not believe in Ghosts either, but it was strange.
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