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re: Civil War nicknames for SEC states..
Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:39 pm to AU86
Posted on 6/26/12 at 5:39 pm to AU86
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The brigade's most famous action took place on the second day of the Battle of Gettysburg, during its fight for Devil's Den. Though the Confederacy ultimately lost that battle, the 1st Texas, 4th Texas, 5th Texas, and 3rd Arkansas distinguished themselves in taking Devil's Den despite being greatly outnumbered and suffering heavy casualties.
Hood was actually the division commander at Gettysburg. My ancestors from Georgia fought in his division. Benning's Brigade was actually there at the Devil's Den with the regiments from Texas and the 3rd Arkansas. Heck of a fight.
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 6:26 pm to AU86
Thanks, did not know he was divisional commander. After that battle there was not a lot of the division left.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 8:52 pm to dwr353
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First submarine to sink an enemy ship. I was in Charleston for the burial of the Hundley crew. I was honored to be the lone re-enactor mason to participate in the Masonic Services for Lt Dixon, the commander. Charleston was great.
I must know you, I was in the procession for that funeral as well
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:03 pm to NCrawler
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Long spike on the front of the sub with a large explosive attached. They rammed the ship, attaching the explosive to the hull and when they reversed, a rope attached to the explosive detonated it. They were probably a bit too close when it detonated and were lost at sea...
Yeah officially there is no explanation to why it sank. From what I've heard the Hunley actually signaled that it was returning home after it hit and sank the ship. One big theory is that afterwards a Union ship going to rescue survivors ran over the Hunley and then it sanke.
Who knows. It was brave of them to do it in the 1st place. The Hunley had 2 test runs before that both sank and all crew were killed, including the guy the sub was named for.
If I remember correctly it was another state (I think AL) that when the Hunley was raised they wanted it because it was actually built there. But naturally we kept it as it was in service here and sank here. Also some student did some paper on it in my History 300 class (essentially teaches people how to be a historian) and said that former, and very powerful, Senator Strom Thurmond made some agreement with the Navy to keep it in SC in exchange for something but I can't remember what.
Either way it technically belonged to the US Navy regardless of which angle you take.
1) Union never recognized the CSA as a country thus it all belonged the Union anyway.
2) Was sunk in combat and was thus a prize of war type thing.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:34 pm to mizzoukills
quote:I don't have a Willa as one of Nancy's sisters, only Martha and Louisanna (and they never left Georgia).
No Effing Way!!! I'm related to Nancy Gann's sister, Willa. Willa Gann had 5 children - 2 boys and 3 girls. Her daughter, Mary Ellen Joy, is my great, great, great grandmother.
My Nancy was the daughter of John Gann and Mary Ann Allen. I do know that several Gann families from Georgia made it to Arkansas and on out that way. There is apparently a Gann House and museum in Benton, Arkansas that belonged to one of the first doctors in the town. He, or his family, are from the Georgia Gann line.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:39 pm to theGarnetWay
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Yeah officially there is no explanation to why it sank. From what I've heard the Hunley actually signaled that it was returning home after it hit and sank the ship. One big theory is that afterwards a Union ship going to rescue survivors ran over the Hunley and then it sanke
I know some of the people on the Hunley Commission,
they tell me that the best current theory after being able to examine the sub is that the crew just stayed down too long and just passed out and eventually died from lack of oxygen
Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:51 pm to Shoat Nuff
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I really hate to hear that. The war between the bushwackers and jayhawks was absolutely brutal. There were no good guys, Quantrill included. Entirely too many unarmed, innocent, or civilian men killed along with women children, not mention countless rapes, thefts, and livestock/crop razings performed by BOTH sides.
True, there's a historical marker on U.S. 400 where Quantrill and his boys ambushed and murdered U.S. troops by the Spring River in Kansas. It's only about 15min from where I live.
LINK
Back then the Nation was actually watching(reading) papers of what was going on between the states of Missouri and Kansas. It was a precursor of what was to come in regards to the Civil War. The two states were battling before the war even started.
That's why I laugh when people call Missouri a "yankee" state. If it was a "Yankee" state then they sure as hell wouldn't have fought people from Kansas before the war started. People in Washington and in the South sure as hell wouldn't have kept an eye out on what was going on in this part of the country. Northerners were pulling for Kansas and Southerners were pulling for Missouri. There was an app to where you can read newspapers articles from that time period from places like NYC, Richmond, etc in regards to the fighting between MO and KS.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 6/26/12 at 10:03 pm to mizzoukills
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I live less than 5 miles from Wilson's Creek Battlefield outside of Springfield, MO
Funny I taught and coached in Republic 3 years before I moved to Rogers. If you have not been to the museum, (used to be General Sweeney's) now is part of the park it is small but pretty incredible.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 10:25 pm to CSATiger
Csa, I live in Opelousas and rode up in the bus from Lafayette. I belong to the Mouton camp and am a member of the Pelican Battery.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 10:27 pm to dwr353
This is the coolest thread this year.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 10:30 pm to dwr353
By the way, the procession was a long four mile walk on a hot day if you recall. We would do ot again. I will always remember the thousands in Charleston who lined the streets to honor the crew.
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:11 pm to dwr353
great read folks, thanks to all who contributed 
Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:17 pm to dwr353
Another great Texas General, Albert Sidney Johnston the highest ranking General Killed in the War between the States, at the battle of Shiloh. He was a highly respected General, who's loss was a tough blow for the south, in the West.
FYI, He was also a Former General the US Army and the in the Republic of Texas Army. A native of Kentucky, he made Texas his Adaptive home, he owned a Plantation in Brazoria County southwest of present day Houston.
Albert Sidney Johnson
FYI, He was also a Former General the US Army and the in the Republic of Texas Army. A native of Kentucky, he made Texas his Adaptive home, he owned a Plantation in Brazoria County southwest of present day Houston.
Albert Sidney Johnson
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:01 am to dwr353
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Csa, I live in Opelousas and rode up in the bus from Lafayette. I belong to the Mouton camp and am a member of the Pelican Battery.
yep, know you, I was the speaker at your last Lee/Jackson Banquet, as I recall we talked LSU football
Posted on 6/27/12 at 12:03 am to dwr353
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By the way, the procession was a long four mile walk on a hot day if you recall. We would do ot again. I will always remember the thousands in Charleston who lined the streets to honor the crew.
Hot as hell that day and no breeze, by the time we got to the cemetery I found a tree to crash under, but it was worth it
Posted on 6/27/12 at 1:14 am to AU86
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The Battle of Franklin lasted barely five hours and led to some 9,500 soldiers being killed, wounded, captured, or counted as missing. Nearly 7,000 of that number were Confederate troops. Carnton served as the largest field hospital in the area for hundreds of wounded and dying Confederate soldiers
Yes, placing Hoood in command of the Army of Tennessee was not the smartest move by Richmond. Because the principal theater was always going to be the east that poor army was saddled with the likes of Braxton Bragg and then Hood later(Joe Johnston was a welcome interlude). As the A&M poster stated, the South never recovered from the loss of A.S. Johnston at Shiloh. To call the Battle of Franklin an horrific waste of human life is an understatement. If any of you travel to Nashville for an away game this year I highly suggest a visit to Franklin. Also, as you drive through Green Hills you can still see some of the Yankee entrenchments from the Battle of Nashville.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 9:04 am to CSATiger
Yes, I also know you. We really enjoyed your presentation.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 9:05 am to dwr353
I wish truly good threads like this would get a "sticky" for a week or so before being anchored. I hate have to search for a thread just to bump it back to the top.
Posted on 6/27/12 at 10:38 am to calitiger
It is interesting as a student of history the few events that truly change the course of history. The war between the states in the west might have been much different if f A.S. Johnston was not killed at Shiloh. If he would of stayed in command of The Army of Mississippi/Tennessee throughout the War, the fight in the West might have been different.
Johnston, was considered a very strong and aggressive tactical General, and well respected by his men. He also had more combat experience then any other Southern officer at the start of the war, with his experience in Texas, Utah, and California.
Johnston, was considered a very strong and aggressive tactical General, and well respected by his men. He also had more combat experience then any other Southern officer at the start of the war, with his experience in Texas, Utah, and California.
This post was edited on 6/27/12 at 10:40 am
Posted on 6/27/12 at 11:09 am to TAMU87
What if scenarios also bring to mind serious questions...what would our country be like now if the South would have won the war? Civil rights?
I don't know.
I don't know.
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