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re: Who has been the most dominant CFB Program since 2000

Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:57 pm to
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they also lost to 2 unranked teams
they also beat 6 ranked teams. but keep harping on something stupid.

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split national championship
no such thing since '97. your repeating it doesn't make it any more true. you've bought into the spurned media writers' whinings.

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2003, nobody deserved it more than the winners, LSU & USC
dang. you are thick headed. no one in america deserved to be in the 2003 bcs national championship game more than lsu. nobody. that includes usc. usc couldn't even beat out okla. usc didn't deserve it and they don't have a part of the bcs championship which is the only recognized championship since '97

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2007, nobody deserved it at all including LSU... but someone had to get it I guess and LSU ended up being that team
wow. ok, you're just being stubborn. i get it. nobody deserved it. you've said some stupid things in this thread but, this is the best.

usc isn't ahead of lsu. they had one legit championship taken away because of ineligible players. they weren't even the best champs of the bcs era beating a mere 3 ranked teams all season. big whoop.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:59 pm to
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The BCS/Coaches poll gives out its National Title, and so does the AP
there is no ap national championship game that the entire bowl system is contracted with. you are wrong.

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They are completely separate entities
one is legit, the other is for funsies

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If they are awarded to 2 different teams, it is considered a split national championship
still wrong.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:00 pm to
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it sure seems like an opinion
this is the reason why you're not getting it. they were facts. not opinions.

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try again
would you like for me to retype those facts?
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:00 pm to
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there is no ap national championship game that the entire bowl system is contracted with. you are wrong.



Willing to bet LSU keeps a 2007 AP National Championship Trophy in its trophy case right next to its 2007 BCS Championship Trohpy
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:03 pm to
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this is the reason why you're not getting it. they were facts. not opinions.



yeah, those FACTS influence your OPINION that LSU is the most dominant program of the last decade

those facts dont impress me or influence me nearly as much as they do you, and my opinion is still that USC and Florida were both better

what exactly do you not understand about that

Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:06 pm to
If LSU won the ap poll every one of you LSU fans would go out and buy NC shirts and hats
Posted by Hog Springs
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:06 pm to
Easy. Arkansas.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:07 pm to
Did USC win a championship in 2003?
Posted by Crow Pie
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Member since Feb 2010
25828 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:07 pm to
Larry..please just stop. between Zook 3 years and the last two years of failure Florida has slipped out of this debate and you know it. USC as well......they got caught creating and they are excused as well and you know it.

As much as you hate it..LSU has been the overall best CFB program since 2000 and you know it.

I'm gone to take it easy on you now because I know you having to admit Auburn, LSU and Florida have been better programs since the Bear retired had to be traumatically humbling for you.
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:08 pm to
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If LSU won the ap poll every one of you LSU fans would go out and buy NC shirts and hats



^This

and they would have every right to do so
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:11 pm to
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I'm gone to take it easy on you now because I know you having to admit Auburn, LSU and Florida have been better programs since the Bear retired had to be traumatically humbling for you.



not really, during the early 2000s i became quite used to it

part of the ups and downs of a major program. you gotta take the good times with the bad, and now I just look at it as part of the "Process" that led us to the point we are at now

if we were still in the shitter... then yes it would be much harder to speak of

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between Zook 3 years and the last two years of failure Florida has slipped out of this debate and you know it. USC as well......they got caught creating and they are excused as well and you know it.

As much as you hate it..LSU has been the overall best CFB program since 2000 and you know it.


i mean, i've told you what my opinion is. None of that makes me think any less of USC or Florida, and I put them slightly ahead of LSU in terms of dominance

I get it, you disagree... but for the 1 millionth time, its an opinion dude

This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25828 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:12 pm to
We will keep all of these...the BCS is the one we will cherish. Duh.

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2003
13-1-0
1st-N-Goal
Annual Football Predictions
ARGH Power Ratings
Billingsley Report
Bowl Championship Series
Colley Rankings
David Wilson
Dunkel System
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments
GBE College Football Ratings
Harry DeVold
James Howell
Jeff Self
Loren Maxwell
Massy Ratings
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Peter Wolfe
Quality Champions
Sagarin Ratings
Seattle Times
SW!-TECH Computer Ratings
The Sporting News
USA Today


2007
12-2-0
1st-N-Goal
Associated Press
Billingsley Report
Bowl Championship Series
CBS SportsLine
Clyde Berryman
CollegeRivals.org Top 25 Fan Poll
Colley Rankings
Congrove Computer Rankings
Darryl W. Perry
David Wilson
DKC Ratings
Football Writers Association of America
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments (Rothman)
GBE College Football Ratings
Harry DeVold
James Howell
Jeff Self
Massy Ratings
Master Coaches Survey
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
Patrick Premo
Peter Wolfe
Quality Champions
Rogers Poll
Sagarin Ratings
Soren Sorensen
Steve Eck
SW!-TECH Computer Ratings
The Fleming System
The Sporting News
The State's National Champions
USA Today/ESPN

This post was edited on 10/26/11 at 10:14 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:13 pm to
Did USC win a championship by being awarded the AP trophy in 2003?
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:14 pm to
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2003
13-1-0
1st-N-Goal
Annual Football Predictions
ARGH Power Ratings
Billingsley Report
Bowl Championship Series
Colley Rankings
David Wilson
Dunkel System
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments
GBE College Football Ratings
Harry DeVold
James Howell
Jeff Self
Loren Maxwell
Massy Ratings
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
Nutshell Sports Football Ratings
Patrick Premo
Peter Wolfe
Quality Champions
Sagarin Ratings
Seattle Times
SW!-TECH Computer Ratings
The Sporting News
USA Today


2007
12-2-0
1st-N-Goal
Associated Press
Billingsley Report
Bowl Championship Series
CBS SportsLine
Clyde Berryman
CollegeRivals.org Top 25 Fan Poll
Colley Rankings
Congrove Computer Rankings
Darryl W. Perry
David Wilson
DKC Ratings
Football Writers Association of America
Foundation for the Analysis of Competitions and Tournaments (Rothman)
GBE College Football Ratings
Harry DeVold
James Howell
Jeff Self
Massy Ratings
Master Coaches Survey
National Football Foundation and Hall of Fame
Patrick Premo
Peter Wolfe
Quality Champions
Rogers Poll
Sagarin Ratings
Soren Sorensen
Steve Eck
SW!-TECH Computer Ratings
The Fleming System
The Sporting News
The State's National Champions
USA Today/ESPN


and....

what exactly was the point of that?
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:14 pm to
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Did USC win a championship by being awarded the AP trophy in 2003?



Yes?

I feel like this is a trick question, b/c I've answered this 100 times already
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
81105 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:21 pm to
Yea there is an ap trophy and lsu displays that 2007 trophy in the trophy case
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
37380 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:21 pm to
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okay... they also lost to 2 unranked teams


You already made a comment that USC was undefeated in regulation in 2003, so I can play that game too.

In regulation, LSU was undefeated in 2007.

And, Kentucky was ranked 17th when we played them, so again, you don't know what the frick you're talking about.

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And I still think USC and Florida are slightly ahead of LSU in this discussion, but that's just like, my opinion man


Opinions are like assholes, man.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:22 pm to
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Yes?


And an AP championship counts as a national championship?
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:26 pm to
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You already made a comment that USC was undefeated in regulation in 2003, so I can play that game too.



I never said that? I'd never make such a retarded argument as "undefeated in regulation?"

I responded to someone who made that argument, undefeated in regulation doesn't even make sense

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And, Kentucky was ranked 17th when we played them, so again, you don't know what the frick you're talking about.



they were top 10 at one point that year as well. Where did they finish the year ranked though? out of the top 25

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Opinions are like assholes, man.



agreed, your opinion is the answer is LSU, and mine is that it is USC, Then Florida, Then LSU

Posted by Volmanac
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2009
7733 posts
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:26 pm to
every bit as much as the coaches poll championship ("crystal ball") counts as a championship.
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