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re: Who has been the most dominant CFB Program since 2000

Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:44 am to
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:44 am to
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LSU had a two-loss national title team
that beat 6 ranked teams that season. people who are disparaging lsu are looking at the bad WITHOUT the good. not a fair assessment.

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head-to-head the record is even, with UF having a few more blowout wins
and lsu has the better overall winning percentage. again, taking the bad without the good.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:50 am to
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So it comes down to LSU and UF, with the edge going to LSU due to better overall win%.


Disagree.

2 game difference in win percentage is nullified by the fact that UF has been to 5 BCS bowl games to LSUs 4.

BCS Bowl Game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 game difference in overall record
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 10:03 am to
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Disagree. 2 game difference in win percentage is nullified by the fact that UF has been to 5 BCS bowl games to LSUs 4. BCS Bowl Game >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 game difference in overall record


Except that LSU has gone 8-3 in bowl games, 4-0 in BSC bowls, while UF has gone 6-5 in bowls games and 4-1 in BCS bowls.

LSU has more bowl wins over all, and just as many BCS bowl wins.

It's pretty damn close, but I'm still going with LSU.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 10:54 am to
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You are a troll if you say LSU has 1.5 titles. They have 2. USC and LSU each have 1 total from that year, not .5. And LSU's is the one recognized by the accepted BCS.


The major point to make is the BCS was a trophy that took several polls into consideration including the AP in 2003. So really an AP title wasn't worth that much at that point and we know the media likes to use their polls to make stories also.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:01 am to
so what we've learned from this thread is that in order to keep lsu from being the top team since 2000, lsu's accomplishments have to be ignored to some degree in favor of whatever negatives apply to lsu. no other team in america has a better combination of accomplishments with fewer negatives. not even the close second choice, florida. usc, okla, osu don't even belong in the conversation.
Posted by bigbowe80
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:15 am to
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so what we've learned from this thread is that in order to keep lsu from being the top team since 2000, lsu's accomplishments have to be ignored to some degree in favor of whatever negatives apply to lsu. no other team in america has a better combination of accomplishments with fewer negatives. not even the close second choice, florida. usc, okla, osu don't even belong in the conversation


Also I think depending on what happens the rest of this year with LSU could go along way to completely without a doubt cementing the fact that LSU has without a doubt been the most successful, concistant, powerful program since 2000.
Posted by aaronb023
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:16 am to
so without reading all 24 pages, I'm guessing everyone agreed unanimously on lsu?
Posted by rebeltider
Oxford
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:17 am to
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concistant


Very nice
Posted by dantes69
Boise, Id.
Member since Aug 2011
2022 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:25 am to
Montana is D2, Boise is D1, just like LSU
Posted by Android
Chasseur de Courbes
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:28 am to


I can't believe this thread is still going.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:38 am to
I was just thinking the same thing.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 11:55 am to
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that beat 6 ranked teams that season. people who are disparaging lsu are looking at the bad WITHOUT the good. not a fair assessment.


Exactly, LSU was 5-0 against the final top 15 ranked teams

The second best resume was 2-1
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas

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Wait for the day when the AP awards LSU their trophy and the BCS gives theirs to someone else.

You WILL change your mind on that day.

I will not.

I love how people bitch and moan about "The stupid computers" and talk about how the coaches poll is worthless because the coaches don't have time to look at any teams besides their own and their opponents, and how the coaches let assistants fill out their ballots, which are skewed to promote thier own team - until the coaches poll puts their team at #1.

The AP never agreed to be a part of the BCS, thier poll was just used as part of the formula untill 2003 when the results were different and the AP didn't want to compromise their results depending on what a bunch of computers and GAs came up with.

When you win the BCS it's the coaches saying you have the best team. When you win the AP it's the sprots qwriters saying you have the best team - when you win both, you are undisputed national champions, when you only win one, there is dispute.

To ignore these facts is simply ignorant.
Posted by Wideman
Arlington, Virginia
Member since Jul 2005
11721 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:39 pm to
LSU has never been any good. Their 2007 national title team wouldn't beat this year's Kentucky team, either.

LSU was the third worst team of the past decade... and they're backing into that, too.
Posted by LarrySellers
Member since Sep 2011
1793 posts
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:41 pm to
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LSU has never been any good. Their 2007 national title team wouldn't beat this year's Kentucky team, either.

LSU was the third worst team of the past decade... and they're backing into that, too.


finally someone in this thread besides myself is making some sense
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