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Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:29 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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Yea there is an ap trophy and lsu displays that 2007 trophy in the trophy case
of course they do, just like EVERY other school who wins the AP National Championship does
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:37 pm to Volmanac
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And an AP championship counts as a national championship?
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every bit as much as the coaches poll championship ("crystal ball") counts as a championship.
exactly
go check any trophy case across the country. There are 2 trophies for the National Championship, The BCS/Coaches Poll, and the AP
Even LSU celebrates the AP trophy for 2007 in their trophy case right next to the BCS/Coaches Poll trophy. If LSU had one for 2003 they would celebrate that one in the trophy case too. Its only b/c USC won the AP trophy in 2003 that LSU fans want to pretend like the AP doesn't count. If the shoe were on the other foot, and USC won the BCS and LSU won the AP, 100% of LSU fans would claim a national championship that year, and they would have every right to do so
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:45 pm to LarrySellers
i will give the edge to UF since LSU had a two-loss national title team and UF beat their other national title team (with zook at the helm). head-to-head the record is even, with UF having a few more blowout wins.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:48 pm to Tolbert1906
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i will give the edge to UF since LSU had a two-loss national title team and UF beat their other national title team (with zook at the helm). head-to-head the record is even, with UF having a few more blowout wins.
bfniii isn't gonna like that answer...
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:50 pm to Tolbert1906
LSU, but Bama is gonna be the team for the next ten years if Saban stays.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 10:51 pm to SmackoverHawg
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LSU, but Bama is gonna be the team for the next ten years if Saban stays.
Solid 2nd post
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:05 am to LarrySellers
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LarrySellers
Dude, have you really kept this up all fricking day? Seems like you are only trying to prove that it's not LSU when they are definitely at the top. Looks like you mad, bro.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 12:15 am to LarrySellers
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exactly
go check any trophy case across the country. There are 2 trophies for the National Championship, The BCS/Coaches Poll, and the AP
Even LSU celebrates the AP trophy for 2007 in their trophy case right next to the BCS/Coaches Poll trophy. If LSU had one for 2003 they would celebrate that one in the trophy case too. Its only b/c USC won the AP trophy in 2003 that LSU fans want to pretend like the AP doesn't count. If the shoe were on the other foot, and USC won the BCS and LSU won the AP, 100% of LSU fans would claim a national championship that year, and they would have every right to do so
But to assert that LSU only won half a championship is absurd. Which is what you have done.
1a) Florida
1b) LSU
3) USC
I hesitate to even put USC there at all after they just got the hammer and had a title stripped.
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 12:16 am
Posted on 10/27/11 at 4:25 am to LarrySellers
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LarrySellers
@ you. Thanks for proving LSU is the best. Anybody that goes out their way this much is definitely mad. 
Yikes, Thou is so mad that thou has gone full on dumb. Dumb as in can not differentiate between real and fake. Fake being wishing you were a USC fan real being LSU is the class of the SEC in the new century. Have a great day my friend. :
Posted on 10/27/11 at 4:58 am to LaBornNRaised
California State University, Chico
Posted on 10/27/11 at 6:15 am to LarrySellers
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And an AP championship counts as a national championship?
Yes?
So LSU has 4 national championships this decade
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 6:16 am
Posted on 10/27/11 at 6:49 am to LarrySellers
quote:If you think USC is a more successful program than LSU, or for that matter Oklahoma, Auburn or Texas, and maybe even Alabama, you truly need your head examined.
and my opinion is still that USC and Florida were both better
Even without taking USC's 14 vacated wins into account, LSU's W-L record over the span is identical to USC's despite LSU playing in the SEC.
With vacated wins accounted for, the following programs are all ahead of USC in W/L% 2000-2011, in order:
1 Boise State
2 Oklahoma
3 Texas
4 LSU
5 Ohio State
6 Texas Christian
7 Virginia Tech
8 Florida
9 Georgia
10 Auburn
11 Miami
12 Oregon
13 Utah
14 West Virginia
15 USC
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 6:53 am
Posted on 10/27/11 at 7:00 am to LarrySellers
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LarrySellers
still refusing to give LSU any credit i see.
i've also noticed that you keep asking for facts...but everytime an LSU fan gives you facts you just say its homerism. while if a fan of another team says anything you give the ole
emote. you're a troll and an idiot.This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 7:08 am
Posted on 10/27/11 at 7:08 am to LarrySellers
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Even LSU celebrates the AP trophy for 2007 in their trophy case right next to the BCS/Coaches Poll trophy. If LSU had one for 2003 they would celebrate that one in the trophy case too. Its only b/c USC won the AP trophy in 2003 that LSU fans want to pretend like the AP doesn't count. If the shoe were on the other foot, and USC won the BCS and LSU won the AP, 100% of LSU fans would claim a national championship that year, and they would have every right to do so
When discussing LSU's BCS era championships, virtually no thought or mention is given to the AP trophy. The entire focus is on the BCS championship in any discussion. The same is true for every BCS/AP trophy winner. The AP trophy only
becomes relevant when the AP disagrees with the Coaches
Poll.
While the AP trophy, like every other award, is on display, to assert that it has the same importance or status as the BCS trophy, is simply a denial of the reality of how the two awards are regarded. I suspect if you ask fans and players of any school that has won both which award is more significant, the overwhelming majority will say that they regard the BCS r
Championship as the more significant.
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 7:10 am
Posted on 10/27/11 at 7:13 am to Choctaw
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still refusing to give LSU any credit i see.
You gotta love the irony of a Bama fan only giving LSU credit for 0.5 NC in 2003.
If all split NCs are counted as 0.5, what would that make Bama's total NC count, 6?
Since 2000:
LSU has more wins than any other SEC team, has a head to head winning record vs all other SEC teams except UGA and UF which the records are tied, and has more NCs than any other team besides UF, also has more SEC titles than any other SEC team besides UF which is tied at 3.
So it comes down to LSU and UF, with the edge going to LSU due to better overall win%.
Teams from other conferences?
No chance.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:38 am to LarrySellers
quote:while flattering, it still doesn't have the same meaning as the bcs championship.
Willing to bet LSU keeps a 2007 AP National Championship Trophy in its trophy case right next to its 2007 BCS Championship Trohpy
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:39 am to NorthshoreTiger76
quote:still not as meaningful as the bcs championship
If LSU won the ap poll every one of you LSU fans would go out and buy NC shirts and hats
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:41 am to LarrySellers
quote:usc had ineligible players and is now on probation. they weren't "dominant".
I put them slightly ahead of LSU
lsu has a better winning percentage than florida.
you're wrong.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 9:42 am to Volmanac
quote:the coaches poll championship is not the crystal ball. people don't know what they're talking about.
every bit as much as the coaches poll championship ("crystal ball") counts as a championship
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