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Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:34 pm to LarrySellers
quote:there has never been a year with two bcs champs. figment of your imagination
Florida didn't split their title with anyone
quote:this is the third time i've asked you to tell us which team deserved to be in the game more than lsu
they never lost 2 games in route to their championships either
quote:and you are still wrong
I still put USC at #1
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:34 pm to LarrySellers
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didn't LSU finish that year 3rd in the West?
Um, no? How would we have gotten in the BCS if so?
If fact, if you add Arkie's loss to UF, LSU would be 1st in the West.
God I would have loved another crack at UF. We lost, but it wasn't a clean straight up loss. Lots of bad luck crap in ball bounces, snaps, etc hit us that day.
And don't get me started on Ref-gate 06. We dont get cheated at that game and we DO play UF fir the SEC title.
They should change the rules so that only divisional records decide divisional champs. Not fair the way it is set up now due to uneven schedules.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:36 pm to LarrySellers
quote:herein lies the problem to your reasoning. show the documentation of a year when there were two bcs champs
I dont believe you
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:36 pm to bfniii
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and you are still wrong
its an opinion. LSU is not necessarily the correct answer. It may be for you, but Florida has just as much of a claim as the most dominant team as LSU does. Stop crying b/c everyone doesn't agree with you
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:38 pm to bfniii
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and only beat 3 ranked teams that season to lsu's 5, didn't have the top computer ranking, nor had the highest number of quality wins according to the bcs.
Oklahoma beat the only common opponent they had with USC in 2003 by 10 more points. (UCLA)
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:38 pm to LarrySellers
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I'm agreeing with anyone who presents a well thought out non biased homer opinion
What do you expect. It's an LSU message board. Do you really think fans are different from area to area or school to school?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:41 pm to bfniii
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herein lies the problem to your reasoning. show the documentation of a year when there were two bcs champs
that doesn't even make sense, but you should type it a few more times anyway
of course there aren't 2 BCS champs, just like there aren't 2 AP champs. Split title means 1 team wins the AP and 1 wins the BCS. what are you 12 years old you sound like an moron. Are you this new to college football?
check your LSU trophy case, you have 2 National Championship trophies from 2007, b/c that year ya'll didn't split the title
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Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:41 pm to LarrySellers
quote:this issue has been sliced just about every way possible. the answer isn't lsu only when you artificially limit the evaluation to some ridiculous, arbitrary thing like undefeated seasons. things you haven't responded to:
its an opinion. LSU is not necessarily the correct answer
in 2007, lsu beat 6 ranked teams. no other bcs team has done that except for '98 tenn
in 2003, lsu beat 5 ranked teams. that's definitely better than usc's record that season and their almighty '04 team.
who deserved to be in the '03 and '07 championship games more than lsu?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:43 pm to LarrySellers
quote:haven't cried at all. just trying to see if you'll actually swallow your pride and admit the truth
Stop crying b/c everyone doesn't agree with you
and btw, florida AT BEST can claim equality with lsu since 2000. that still makes lsu the best as i have said all along. you have spent 22 pages trying to diminish what lsu has accomplished. pitiful
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:43 pm to LarrySellers
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but Florida has just as much of a claim as the most dominant team as LSU does. Stop crying b/c everyone doesn't agree with you
But Florida had Ron Zook and Ron Zook lost 15 (fifteen) games in three years and lost 3 bowls as well.
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:45 pm to bfniii
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haven't cried at all. just trying to see if you'll actually swallow your pride and admit the truth
the truth is I dont agree with you, this is an opinion, therefore there is no right or wrong? How do you not understand that?
can you take off your purple and gold glasses for 1 minute to see how an objective person might view things differently than you?
Even a couple of LSU fans admitted you could easily say Florida was more dominant
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:46 pm to Crow Pie
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But Florida had Ron Zook and Ron Zook lost 15 (fifteen) games in three years and lost 3 bowls as well.
He also beat LSU in 2003
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:47 pm to LarrySellers
quote:no, that's not what a "split" means. the ap poll is not part of the bcs formula. the champ is not decided by the ap poll. hasn't been since '97. the ap poll is a beauty pageant, nothing more. a split would be two ap champs or two bcs champs. there is no such thing.
Split title means 1 team wins the AP and 1 wins the BCS
quote:pal, the bcs in 2003 consisted of 4 criteria; quality wins, sos, human polls, computer polls. guess how many of the 4 usc was #1 in. they were #1 in one half of the human polls. THAT'S IT. that's why they weren't in the game. you just don't understand how the bcs era works.
Are you this new to college football
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:50 pm to bfniii
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in 2007, lsu beat 6 ranked teams. no other bcs team has done that except for '98 tenn
okay... they also lost to 2 unranked teams
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in 2003, lsu beat 5 ranked teams. that's definitely better than usc's record that season and their almighty '04 team.
great, that was good enough for a split national championship. LSU had a great team that year I never said they didn't
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who deserved to be in the '03 and '07 championship games more than lsu?
2003, nobody deserved it more than the winners, LSU & USC
2007, nobody deserved it at all including LSU... but someone had to get it I guess and LSU ended up being that team
anything else?
And I still think USC and Florida are slightly ahead of LSU in this discussion, but that's just like, my opinion man
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:51 pm to LarrySellers
quote:because you're being unreasonable and trolling. you have yet to show anything substantive proving lsu wasn't the best. lsu has won the most games in the toughest conference, the most championships, the most conference championships among sec national champs, the most bcs bowls among sec national champs, the highest winning percentage among sec national champs, good grief.
the truth is I dont agree with you
quote:there is nothing anyone could say to top what i just typed. it's not bias. it's not opinion.
see how an objective person might view things differently than you?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:52 pm to bfniii
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no, that's not what a "split" means. the ap poll is not part of the bcs formula. the champ is not decided by the ap poll. hasn't been since '97. the ap poll is a beauty pageant, nothing more. a split would be two ap champs or two bcs champs. there is no such thing.
yes that is EXACTLY what split means. The BCS/Coaches poll gives out its National Title, and so does the AP. They are completely separate entities. If they are awarded to 2 different teams, it is considered a split national championship
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:54 pm to bfniii
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there is nothing anyone could say to top what i just typed. it's not bias. it's not opinion.
interesting...
b/c it sure seems biased... and it sure seems like an opinion
maybe you should look up the definition of those words and try again
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:54 pm to LarrySellers
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But Florida had Ron Zook and Ron Zook lost 15 (fifteen) games in three years and lost 3 bowls as well.
He also beat LSU in 2003
So both Auburn and LSU going 8-3 over Bama in this same time frame makes both Auburn and LSU a better program than Bama?
Posted on 10/26/11 at 9:56 pm to Crow Pie
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So both Auburn and LSU going 8-3 over Bama in this same time frame makes both Auburn and LSU a better program than Bama?
since 2000?
Its not even close, both Aub and LSU have had way better programs than Bama over that time period. Saban is trying to get us caught up, but we were already 7 years behind when he got here
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