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re: Well we are seeing the full force of the transfer portal and NIL now.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:03 am to i am dan
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:03 am to i am dan
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Seems I'm losing interest in this sport even more now. I really don't care to watch another game.
Staying inbounds would have changed your outlook, I am dead sure of that.
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Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:03 am to Dr RC
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So what you're saying is you have no idea what you are talking about b/c nearly every single head coach to ever coach has done that to players. What the hell do you think trap dooring a recruit or processing a player is?
I defined it in a previous post. Go read it.
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Since you clearly never followed the sport closely to begin with now that you've said you've never heard of scholarships getting yanked Lets put it this way...
I used to follow the sport and recruiting very closely. Again refer to my previous post.
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o I look around and see that there's a teacher with a program that really excites me at Stanford. I go there but after my first year that teacher suddenly decides to leave for another school.
Well using your logic too bad so sad I have to stay at Stanford no matter what even though the teacher I went there for and the program they ran is gone. Doesn't matter that I can still get a full ride to Rice or Harvard. frick me I should just stay and Stanford just because. That's what you are arguing.
I believe players have been allowed to leave a program after a coaching change for years now. Look it up.
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Except it doesn't work that way. Kids with academic scholarships are free to move if they wish. Only in athletics did they ever try and frick students into being permanently stuck and it was b/c a-hole coaches, ADs , and boosters pushed the NCAA to frick over students locking them in. It was never done for the good of the student, it was done for the good of the coaches and people who wanted their football team to be good.
So spare us w/the ohh noooo CFB is ruined bullshite.
Now coaches and schools will have to be more accountable. A coach can't lie to a kid to get him onto campus anymore b/c that kid can now freely leave. Boo hoo to you and your bullshite "but muh love of school should be enough for them to stay" garbage arse excuse to keep them locked in.
Are kids on academic scholarships allowed to leave without penalty? You sure on that? I honestly don't know.
You act like coaches are always the a-hole. Players never frick over coaches or change their commitments at the last hour after months or years of pursuing a recruit huh?
Coaches finding the best recruit for their team, players finding the best situation for themselves. Recruiting has become completely fluid. I think you can blame coaches and players for that.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:06 am to thatthang
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Yes I understand that’s your claim. What I’m saying is that you’re either outright lying, or simply not being honest with yourself. I suspect the latter as you don’t strike me as a bad poster. So I stand by my claim. If Auburn had pulled off the Iron Bowl upset, beat UGA, and was now getting ready for the playoffs, I would bet my house that Internet user “I am dan” would not have made a post this week where he claimed this:
I've watched maybe 3 partial games this year. The game has lost it's luster. Way before now.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:07 am to i am dan
It’s definitely a new dynamic, and I’m not sure I like it either.
NIL was to provide players the opportunity to make money. What’s actually happening: players being bought by the highest bidder.
With regard to both NIL and the transfer portal, I think some regulation is needed. The wild wild West setup that we see here is not good for the sport overall.
Let the kids make money, let them leave a program if they want, but at least have some regulations in place.
NIL was to provide players the opportunity to make money. What’s actually happening: players being bought by the highest bidder.
With regard to both NIL and the transfer portal, I think some regulation is needed. The wild wild West setup that we see here is not good for the sport overall.
Let the kids make money, let them leave a program if they want, but at least have some regulations in place.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:08 am to TexanTiger68
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Staying inbounds would have changed your outlook, I am dead sure of that.
Didn't watch the Iron Bowl.
Heard about that later that day.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:08 am to i am dan
Back when the portal became a thing, I think most folks thought it would bring the Alabamas and Ohio States back to the field and even the sport out from a competitive standpoint. It appears to have done the opposite.
I’m okay with it now.
I’m okay with it now.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:09 am to i am dan
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Seems I'm losing interest in this sport even more now. I really don't care to watch another game.
You're an Auburn fan. We totally get it.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:11 am to TexanTiger68
The transfer portal is one and done landing. It is not like a player can jump from team to team every year. I think people are just overreacting to a new situation.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:11 am to Sid E Walker
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Back when the portal became a thing, I think most folks thought it would bring the Alabamas and Ohio States back the field and even the sport out from a competitive standpoint. It appears to have done the opposite.
I’m okay with it now.
Sort of. The Alabamas and Ohio States will get the cream of the crop and the rest get a hand me downs.
It does make the other schools better, but it won't really affect the lack of parity in the sport overall.
Same teams will likely be in the playoffs year to year. Like always. Which is another nail in the coffin for many people. Playoff expansion could address that issue.. giving more teams a chance at least.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:11 am to i am dan
The sport is no longer holding people back from pursuing an income like the rest of the country.
It will change the sport - but it is the right thing to do.
It will change the sport - but it is the right thing to do.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:13 am to VoxDawg
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You're an Auburn fan. We totally get it.
Not really a fan of any of it anymore.
Maybe I'm just older now and have out grown the ridiculousness of the sport.
Message boards like this accelerated that. Seeing the stupid world of fandom over the last several years helped kill it for me.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:14 am to Sneaky__Sally
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The sport is no longer holding people back from pursuing an income like the rest of the country.
It will change the sport - but it is the right thing to do.
Well, do away with athletic scholarships then. That is a revenue they apparently no longer need.
Give out more academic scholarships to kids who can't sign an NIL and can't afford college who deserve to be there.
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 10:16 am
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:16 am to i am dan
Seems like a distraction melt...your schools football program is going up in flames but dont wont to say thats the reason football sucks now
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:21 am to futbolisbetter
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Seems like a distraction melt...your schools football program is going up in flames but dont wont to say thats the reason football sucks now
For the second time, my thoughts on this are older than a year.
Read the thread before posting.
I don't keep up with Auburn football or football in general much anymore. I have no idea who's coaching where these days. I can't name one person on our offensive line.
My son tells me Auburn news. I don't normally go looking for it.
Auburn is usually "up in flames" anyway so why is today any different?
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:21 am to i am dan
To make it better I’d allow full on NIL, but I’d have eligibility restrictions on transfers of undergrads. There would be no blocking of where a student can transfer too, but if an undergrad, you must sit out the first year at the new school.
I’d do away with early signing day and I’d make it to where the portal is only available/open during the off season. Transfers can announce entry into the portal any time after the National Championship, and they can sign with their new school any time before NSD. After NSD, portal closes barring family emergencies.
There has to be a way for coaches to face some sort of repercussion for leaving, but I can’t really think of one.
I’d do away with early signing day and I’d make it to where the portal is only available/open during the off season. Transfers can announce entry into the portal any time after the National Championship, and they can sign with their new school any time before NSD. After NSD, portal closes barring family emergencies.
There has to be a way for coaches to face some sort of repercussion for leaving, but I can’t really think of one.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:23 am to Dr RC
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No what I remember is that scholarships were always 1 year contracts that a-hole coaches could yank at a moments notice if they felt the player wasn't good enough even if that kid was doing great at school
How is that any different than a kid getting an academic scholarship but failing to make the grades and losing his free ride?
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:24 am to Oilfieldbiology
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To make it better I’d allow full on NIL, but I’d have eligibility restrictions on transfers of undergrads. There would be no blocking of where a student can transfer too, but if an undergrad, you must sit out the first year at the new school.
As pointed out by some other poster in this thread, that's just an example of being an a-hole to the kid. We must bend over backwards for these kids apparently and let them do anything they want.
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There has to be a way for coaches to face some sort of repercussion for leaving, but I can’t really think of one.
Another sore spot for me. Coaches getting fired and getting paid $millions annoys me badly. What a screwed up system... Completely retarded.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:25 am to Oilfieldbiology
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How is that any different than a kid getting an academic scholarship but failing to make the grades and losing his free ride?
Good point, but one is subjective, one is objective.
A player's underperformance is the opinion of the coach.
A student's grades aren't up for opinion.
I see you point and think there is something there.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:29 am to i am dan
quote:Why the frick to you think Alabama's rival fans bashed Nick Saban for years because they said he was ruthless and "processed" players? Then they bashed him more for "over-signing" and giving medical red-shirts.
i am dan
Hell, Gene Chizik had to change tack and claimed ALL Auburn football scholarships were 4 yrs guaranteed. He did this to help his recruiting in the face of Saban killing it on the recruiting trail.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 10:30 am to i am dan
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Good point, but one is subjective, one is objective. A player's underperformance is the opinion of the coach. A student's grades aren't up for opinion.
I mean, too an extent, but there are objective judgments on skill and ability.
I’m certainly not the one to judge so (doesn’t stop me in Saturday’s) but some people can watch a player and know if he’s good or not.
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