re: Who would you rather have?

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Garner has so many skeletons on his closet yet we overlooked them didn't we!

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If he does I am oblivious to them.

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It truly isn’t significantly THAT MUCH more extensive than that of Sanders.

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That is laughable! Frost was a Broyles finalist and coached/mentored a Heisman winner. Name one thing Sanders has done, outside winning the SWAC?

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Following Chip Kelly's departure to the NFL to coach the Philadelphia Eagles, Oregon promoted Mark Helfrich to head coach and Frost was announced as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach on January 31, 2013.[27] In 2014, Frost was a finalist for the Broyles Award, given annually to the nation's top assistant coach. As the quarterbacks coach, he mentored Marcus Mariota, who won the Heisman Trophy, en route to a berth in the National Championship game. During Frost's three seasons as Oregon's offensive coordinator, the team recorded a 33–8 record and finished every year ranked among the nation's top six in both scoring offense and total offense.

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Sanders last gig was the OC for a HS team. There is absolutely no legitimate comparisons between those two resumes.

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Yeah Frost was coaching at the G5 level and not FCS but “inexperienced” Sanders has coached EXACTLY THE SAME amount of seasons at HC

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Ludicrous. Think about what you are saying, 17 total games coached, in any capacity, at the college level versus coaching since 2007 at various colleges.

You really think I have a persoanl bias because I can not see the value in hiring a guy with a whole 17 games under his belt, as the next Auburn coach?

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I did not know a potential HC has to have coached at Auburn.

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I certainly don't care about this. I'm just saying that Auburn has a contingent of fans/boosters who have maintained an interest in Freeze for several years and it seems strange to me, because I don't think other schools in the SEC have that. Which would make more sense if he was an alum or a former assistant or something.

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Have you met Freeze personally and what do you have for back up to support your opinions of the man or just internet fodder?

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Are we really going to do the thing where we act like he was caught hunting for hookers on school time and didn't DM a sexual assault Plaintiff a few months ago? I'm not saying he's irredeemable, but he continues in lapses of judgment.

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The good book teaches redemption, forgiveness. I am glad Aubie believes in it or Coach Pearl would not be here. Hopefully Aubie can catch lightning in a bottle twice.

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The good book also teaches repentance, and while I don't view Freeze as a villain, I'm not sure he's matured enough to roll the dice on a guy I think would be more of 8-9 win coach. He's just not worth the risk, IMO.

Others have addressed the Pearl comparison already.

Freeze has not professed himself to be a pastor.
Ole Miss penalties for recruiting started under Nutt's watch
and involved boosters and assistant coaches.
The NCAA only gave Freeze a one year suspension penalty which was a slap on the wrist. He could coach just not HC.
NCAA Chief Hearing Officer stated in final report that the investigating committee felt Freeze simply did not know what the boosters and assistants were doing.
Houston Nutt started the whole phone crap trying to clear his name due to the NCAA allegations some under his watch. In looking for dirt to help Nutt his attorneys noticed and researched the numbers, alerted Ole Miss and the extortion from Nutt was on.
Freeze eventually admitted to making them but it was not like the Louisville scandal. Louisville WAS setting up recruits with prostitutes. After the Louisville scandal everyone assumed Freeze was setting up recruits. He was calling them for himself not 22 year old recruits.
Kinda the same area of a defensive line coach screwing potential recruits mothers, aunts, sisters.
Like it or not Freeze is in the running to be Auburn's next coach.

Down vote away... getting use to it!

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in P5 programs you can't succeed with a couple of 5 stars and the rest of the class made up of average guys.

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2010 Auburn says hello

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you really think I have a persoanl bias because I can not see the value in hiring a guy with a whole 17 games under his belt, as the next Auburn coach?

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I should have researched sanders numbers before assuming the correct numbers had been given for his record.

Sanders is 19-5
So again… inexperienced Sanders has 24 games as HC yet “sure fire” Frost had 26.

And again, I’m not on the sanders train but you simply cannot call one a sure fire and another inexperienced with 2 total games difference in their HC record. Not when the “sure fire” coach had only a handful of P5 seasons as an assistant.

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Bruce had a BBQ. Freeze hired HOOKERS.

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Wasn’t the Hookers part only gleaned because Nutt ratted on him? It seems like the NCAA had a whole other laundry list of grievances against Freeze.


Fact is he recruited great but he also cheated his arse off at heights to get what he needed. Freeze’s official record of 12-25 reflects exactly what is proven about Freeze and that is: nothing.

1. ) If you want him at Auburn you’re assuming he can continue recruiting at a level field of paying players.

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2) Freeze will be able to hide his cheating a helluva lot better but if you believe that then the whole spill about beach house in Kansas. He was cheating in broad daylight and inviting the NCAA to come to Ole Miss at the same time. Even Mcglynn cannot help that idiot.

Kinda….

Nutt filed a lawsuit because Ole Miss was insinuating that the NCAA was investigating for things done “before Freeze”…

Then this guy Steve Robertson who knew a lot about what was going on but couldn’t get anyone to listen got hooked up with Nutt’s lawyer, went thru all the docs and found the hooker calls and well the rest is history.

Exactly

No I'm the only one that has suggested Garner as the head coach. And he's not the top of my list. Just think he would be a safe hire if you miss on your top 3 whoever those may be.