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re: Who would you rather have?
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:55 am to UAH_Tiger2
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:55 am to UAH_Tiger2
quote:Hilarious! I just love all the Sanders fan boys telling me, and everyone else, just what he would do, based on his less than two years of coaching at a D-2 school.
You just don't get it. Sanders would work his butt off to make sure he is successful at coaching.
Let me, let you in on a little secret. When an organization is prepared to pay the kind of money that major, D1 programs typically pay, they do not just throw that money out there based on little, to no evidence of ROI. Known vs. unknown, and in Sanders case, the unknowns are massive. If Sanders were to get a job as an HC at a D-1 school, it would 1oo% be for pure publicity, because their isn't anything else to really go on. Pulling a rabbit out of hat on signing day does not make for a reason to throw multi-millions of dollars at someone with less than 2 years of experience.
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:08 am to greygoose
Deion is far from a slam dunk but none of the available guys are. In a world where we are trying to compete/recruit against Nick Saban and Kirby Smart he has the most potential to bring in players which is 90% of the college game these days.
Lane would be the other option.
Aranda the third though I think he'd struggle here without an exceptional OC hire.
If we can't get one of those three might as well just save our money and keep sucking with Harsin until Saban leaves.
Lane would be the other option.
Aranda the third though I think he'd struggle here without an exceptional OC hire.
If we can't get one of those three might as well just save our money and keep sucking with Harsin until Saban leaves.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:09 am to greygoose
You wrote all that when we just gave some Idaho slap dick a huge contract less than two years ago like he was some big time proven coach. He was clearly overseeing a program in a slow decline from his predecessors in the Mountain West.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:12 am to RandySavage
I agree on all fronts. This is a business first. We can't have a guy who hides in his office and just wants to football. I'd rather just keep Harsin than hire another bump on a log. Firing Gus/Harsin and getting back with a Jimbo type hire is just wasting our time.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:18 am to UAH_Tiger2
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Sanders would work his butt off to make sure he is successful at coaching. He already has his several NFL coaches on his staff volunteering their time to help his team. You don't see coaches lining up for Gus or Harsin like that.
Would not happen at Auburn. If you've ever listened to Deion or any of his assistants talk they are ALL about trying to build up the HBCU game.
You think those same NFL assistants would be lining up to volunteer their time at the pressure cooker of Auburn? No. The stress level of P5 football compared to SWAC football isn't even comparable. And like you said, most of those guys already have money. Why add unnecessary stress to their lives.
It's a passion project for Deion and those guys to build something special on the HBCU level and a chance for him to get to coach his kids. His kids aren't seeing the field in the SEC.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:20 am to AUCE05
I misread the question. Here is the list of new coaches the last two years. First name is Head Coach, then OC, DC, STC. Bolded head coaches I would have wanted over BH.
Kansas Jayhawks Big 12 Lance Leipold 2021 7 10 .412 44 43 .506 Andy Kotelnicki Brian Borland Taiwo Onatolu
Texas Longhorns Big 12 Steve Sarkisian 2021 8 9 .471 54 44 .551 Kyle Flood Jeff Choate / Pete Kwiatkowski Jeff Banks
Illinois Fighting Illini Big Ten Bret Bielema 2021 9 8 .529 106 66 .616 Barry Lunney Jr. Ryan Walters Ben Miller
Buffalo Bulls MAC Maurice Linguist 2021 6 11 .353 6 11 .353 Shane Montgomery Brandon Bailey Chris White
Ohio Bobcats MAC Tim Albin 2021 5 12 .294 5 12 .294 Scott Isphording / Allen Rudolph Spence Nowinsky Nate Faanes
Boise State Broncos Mountain West Andy Avalos 2021 10 7 .588 10 7 .588 Dirk Koetter Spencer Danielson / Kane Ioane Keith Bhonapha / Kelly Poppinga
Utah State Aggies Mountain West Blake Anderson 2021 12 7 .632 63 44 .589 Anthony Tucker Ephraim Banda Nick Paremski
Arizona Wildcats Pac-12 Jedd Fisch 2021 4 13 .235 5 14 .263 Brennan Carroll Johnny Nansen Jordan Paopao
Washington State Cougars Pac-12 Jake Dickert 2021 7 4 .636 7 4 .636 Eric Morris Brian Ward Nick Whitworth
Auburn Tigers SEC Bryan Harsin 2021 9 9 .500 85 33 .720 Eric Kiesau Jeff Schmedding Roc Bellantoni
South Carolina Gamecocks SEC Shane Beamer 2021 10 8 .556 10 8 .556 Marcus Satterfield Clayton White Pete Lembo
Tennessee Volunteers SEC Josh Heupel 2021 11 6 .647 39 14 .736 Alex Golesh Tim Banks Mike Ekeler
Vanderbilt Commodores SEC Clark Lea 2021 5 12 .294 5 12 .294 Joey Lynch Nick Howell Justin Lustig
Arkansas State Red Wolves Sun Belt Butch Jones 2021 4 13 .235 88 67 .568 Keith Heckendorf Rob Harley Jake Schoonover
Louisiana-Monroe Warhawks Sun Belt Terry Bowden 2021 6 11 .353 88 80 .524 Matt Kubik Vic Koenning Alonzo Hampton
Marshall Thundering Herd Sun Belt Charles Huff 2021 10 8 .556 10 8 .556 Clint Trickett Lance Guidry Johnathan Galante
South Alabama Jaguars Sun Belt Kane Wommack 2021 9 8 .529 9 8 .529 Major Applewhite Corey Batoon Jamael Lett
Southern Miss Golden Eagles Sun Belt Will Hall 2021 5 11 .313 5 11 .313 Sam Gregg Austin Armstrong Greg Meyer
SMU Mustangs The American Rhett Lashlee 2022 2 2 .500 2 2 .500 Casey Woods Scott Symons Craig Naivar
Temple Owls The American Stan Drayton 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Danny Langsdorf D. J. Eliot Adam Scheier
Duke Blue Devils ACC Mike Elko 2022 4 1 .800 4 1 .800 Kevin Johns Robb Smith Patrick Dougherty
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets ACC Brent Key 2022 1 0 1.000 1 0 1.000 Chip Long Andrew Thacker Vacant
Miami Hurricanes ACC Mario Cristobal 2022 2 2 .500 64 62 .508 Josh Gattis Kevin Steele / Charlie Strong Vacant
Virginia Cavaliers ACC Tony Elliott 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Des Kitchings John Rudzinski Keith Gaither
Virginia Tech Hokies ACC Brent Pry 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Tyler Bowen Chris Marve Stu Holt
Oklahoma Sooners Big 12 Brent Venables 2022 3 2 .600 3 2 .600 Jeff Lebby Todd Bates / Ted Roof / Jay Valai Jay Nunez
TCU Horned Frogs Big 12 Sonny Dykes 2022 4 0 1.000 75 63 .543 A.J. Ricker / Garrett Riley Joseph Gillespie Mark Tommerdahl
Texas Tech Red Raiders Big 12 Joey McGuire 2022 3 2 .600 3 2 .600 Zach Kittley Tim DeRuyter Kenny Perry
Nebraska Cornhuskers Big Ten Mickey Joseph 2022 1 1 .500 1 1 .500 Mark Whipple Bill Busch Bill Busch
Wisconsin Badgers Big Ten Jim Leonhard 2022 0 0 – 0 0 – Bobby Engram Jim Leonhard Chris Haering
Florida International Panthers C-USA Mike MacIntyre 2022 2 2 .500 48 67 .417 David Yost Jovan Dewitt Ricky Brumfield
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs C-USA Sonny Cumbie 2022 1 3 .250 2 6 .250 Jake Brown / Scott Parr Scott Power Dan Sharp
UAB Blazers C-USA Bryant Vincent 2022 2 2 .500 2 2 .500 Darin Hinshaw David Reeves Heath Thomas
New Mexico State Aggies Independent Jerry Kill 2022 1 5 .167 53 52 .505 Tim Beck Nate Dreiling / Melvin Rice Vacant
Notre Dame Fighting Irish Independent Marcus Freeman 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Tommy Rees Al Golden Brian Mason
UConn Huskies Independent Jim L. Mora 2022 2 4 .333 48 34 .585 Nick Charlton Lou Spanos Doug Shearer
UMass Minutemen Independent Don Brown 2022 1 4 .200 1 4 .200 Steve Casula Keith Dudzinski Ben Albert
Akron Zips MAC Joe Moorhead 2022 1 4 .200 15 16 .484 Joe Moorhead Tim Tibesar Allen Tucker
Colorado State Rams Mountain West Jay Norvell 2022 0 4 .000 33 30 .524 Matt Mumme Freddie Banks Tommy Perry
Fresno State Bulldogs Mountain West Jeff Tedford 2022 [N 3] 27 17 .614 109 74 .596 Kirby Moore Kevin Coyle John Baxter
Hawai?i Rainbow Warriors Mountain West Timmy Chang 2022 1 4 .200 1 4 .200 Ian Shoemaker Jacob Yoro Thomas Sheffield
Nevada Wolf Pack Mountain West Ken Wilson 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Derek Sage Kwame Agyeman / Mike Bethea Joe Bolden
Arizona State Sun Devils Pac-12 Shaun Aguano 2022 0 2 .000 0 2 .000 Glenn Thomas Donnie Henderson Shawn Slocum
Colorado Buffaloes Pac-12 Mike Sanford Jr. 2022 0 0 – 9 16 .360 Clay Patterson Gerald Chatman Vacant
Oregon Ducks Pac-12 Dan Lanning 2022 4 1 .800 4 1 .800 Junior Adams / Kenny Dillingham Tosh Lupoi / Matt Powledge Joe Lorig
USC Trojans Pac-12 Lincoln Riley 2022 5 0 1.000 60 10 .857 Josh Henson Alex Grinch Ryan Dougherty
Washington Huskies Pac-12 Kalen DeBoer 2022 4 1 .800 16 7 .696 Ryan Grubb / JaMarcus Shephard William Inge / Chuck Morrell Eric Schmidt
Florida Gators SEC Billy Napier 2022 3 2 .600 43 14 .754 Rob Sale Sean Spencer / Patrick Toney Chris Couch
LSU Tigers SEC Brian Kelly 2022 4 1 .800 150 62 .708 Mike Denbrock Matt House Brian Polian
Georgia Southern Eagles Sun Belt Clay Helton 2022 3 2 .600 49 26 .653 Bryan Ellis Will Harris Turner West
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Sun Belt Michael Desormeaux 2022 3 3 .500 3 3 .500 Tim Leger LaMar Morgan Luke Paschall
Troy Trojans Sun Belt Jon Sumrall 2022 3 2 .600 3 2 .600 Joe Craddock Shiel Wood Vacant
Kansas Jayhawks Big 12 Lance Leipold 2021 7 10 .412 44 43 .506 Andy Kotelnicki Brian Borland Taiwo Onatolu
Texas Longhorns Big 12 Steve Sarkisian 2021 8 9 .471 54 44 .551 Kyle Flood Jeff Choate / Pete Kwiatkowski Jeff Banks
Illinois Fighting Illini Big Ten Bret Bielema 2021 9 8 .529 106 66 .616 Barry Lunney Jr. Ryan Walters Ben Miller
Buffalo Bulls MAC Maurice Linguist 2021 6 11 .353 6 11 .353 Shane Montgomery Brandon Bailey Chris White
Ohio Bobcats MAC Tim Albin 2021 5 12 .294 5 12 .294 Scott Isphording / Allen Rudolph Spence Nowinsky Nate Faanes
Boise State Broncos Mountain West Andy Avalos 2021 10 7 .588 10 7 .588 Dirk Koetter Spencer Danielson / Kane Ioane Keith Bhonapha / Kelly Poppinga
Utah State Aggies Mountain West Blake Anderson 2021 12 7 .632 63 44 .589 Anthony Tucker Ephraim Banda Nick Paremski
Arizona Wildcats Pac-12 Jedd Fisch 2021 4 13 .235 5 14 .263 Brennan Carroll Johnny Nansen Jordan Paopao
Washington State Cougars Pac-12 Jake Dickert 2021 7 4 .636 7 4 .636 Eric Morris Brian Ward Nick Whitworth
Auburn Tigers SEC Bryan Harsin 2021 9 9 .500 85 33 .720 Eric Kiesau Jeff Schmedding Roc Bellantoni
South Carolina Gamecocks SEC Shane Beamer 2021 10 8 .556 10 8 .556 Marcus Satterfield Clayton White Pete Lembo
Tennessee Volunteers SEC Josh Heupel 2021 11 6 .647 39 14 .736 Alex Golesh Tim Banks Mike Ekeler
Vanderbilt Commodores SEC Clark Lea 2021 5 12 .294 5 12 .294 Joey Lynch Nick Howell Justin Lustig
Arkansas State Red Wolves Sun Belt Butch Jones 2021 4 13 .235 88 67 .568 Keith Heckendorf Rob Harley Jake Schoonover
Louisiana-Monroe Warhawks Sun Belt Terry Bowden 2021 6 11 .353 88 80 .524 Matt Kubik Vic Koenning Alonzo Hampton
Marshall Thundering Herd Sun Belt Charles Huff 2021 10 8 .556 10 8 .556 Clint Trickett Lance Guidry Johnathan Galante
South Alabama Jaguars Sun Belt Kane Wommack 2021 9 8 .529 9 8 .529 Major Applewhite Corey Batoon Jamael Lett
Southern Miss Golden Eagles Sun Belt Will Hall 2021 5 11 .313 5 11 .313 Sam Gregg Austin Armstrong Greg Meyer
SMU Mustangs The American Rhett Lashlee 2022 2 2 .500 2 2 .500 Casey Woods Scott Symons Craig Naivar
Temple Owls The American Stan Drayton 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Danny Langsdorf D. J. Eliot Adam Scheier
Duke Blue Devils ACC Mike Elko 2022 4 1 .800 4 1 .800 Kevin Johns Robb Smith Patrick Dougherty
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets ACC Brent Key 2022 1 0 1.000 1 0 1.000 Chip Long Andrew Thacker Vacant
Miami Hurricanes ACC Mario Cristobal 2022 2 2 .500 64 62 .508 Josh Gattis Kevin Steele / Charlie Strong Vacant
Virginia Cavaliers ACC Tony Elliott 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Des Kitchings John Rudzinski Keith Gaither
Virginia Tech Hokies ACC Brent Pry 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Tyler Bowen Chris Marve Stu Holt
Oklahoma Sooners Big 12 Brent Venables 2022 3 2 .600 3 2 .600 Jeff Lebby Todd Bates / Ted Roof / Jay Valai Jay Nunez
TCU Horned Frogs Big 12 Sonny Dykes 2022 4 0 1.000 75 63 .543 A.J. Ricker / Garrett Riley Joseph Gillespie Mark Tommerdahl
Texas Tech Red Raiders Big 12 Joey McGuire 2022 3 2 .600 3 2 .600 Zach Kittley Tim DeRuyter Kenny Perry
Nebraska Cornhuskers Big Ten Mickey Joseph 2022 1 1 .500 1 1 .500 Mark Whipple Bill Busch Bill Busch
Wisconsin Badgers Big Ten Jim Leonhard 2022 0 0 – 0 0 – Bobby Engram Jim Leonhard Chris Haering
Florida International Panthers C-USA Mike MacIntyre 2022 2 2 .500 48 67 .417 David Yost Jovan Dewitt Ricky Brumfield
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs C-USA Sonny Cumbie 2022 1 3 .250 2 6 .250 Jake Brown / Scott Parr Scott Power Dan Sharp
UAB Blazers C-USA Bryant Vincent 2022 2 2 .500 2 2 .500 Darin Hinshaw David Reeves Heath Thomas
New Mexico State Aggies Independent Jerry Kill 2022 1 5 .167 53 52 .505 Tim Beck Nate Dreiling / Melvin Rice Vacant
Notre Dame Fighting Irish Independent Marcus Freeman 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Tommy Rees Al Golden Brian Mason
UConn Huskies Independent Jim L. Mora 2022 2 4 .333 48 34 .585 Nick Charlton Lou Spanos Doug Shearer
UMass Minutemen Independent Don Brown 2022 1 4 .200 1 4 .200 Steve Casula Keith Dudzinski Ben Albert
Akron Zips MAC Joe Moorhead 2022 1 4 .200 15 16 .484 Joe Moorhead Tim Tibesar Allen Tucker
Colorado State Rams Mountain West Jay Norvell 2022 0 4 .000 33 30 .524 Matt Mumme Freddie Banks Tommy Perry
Fresno State Bulldogs Mountain West Jeff Tedford 2022 [N 3] 27 17 .614 109 74 .596 Kirby Moore Kevin Coyle John Baxter
Hawai?i Rainbow Warriors Mountain West Timmy Chang 2022 1 4 .200 1 4 .200 Ian Shoemaker Jacob Yoro Thomas Sheffield
Nevada Wolf Pack Mountain West Ken Wilson 2022 2 3 .400 2 3 .400 Derek Sage Kwame Agyeman / Mike Bethea Joe Bolden
Arizona State Sun Devils Pac-12 Shaun Aguano 2022 0 2 .000 0 2 .000 Glenn Thomas Donnie Henderson Shawn Slocum
Colorado Buffaloes Pac-12 Mike Sanford Jr. 2022 0 0 – 9 16 .360 Clay Patterson Gerald Chatman Vacant
Oregon Ducks Pac-12 Dan Lanning 2022 4 1 .800 4 1 .800 Junior Adams / Kenny Dillingham Tosh Lupoi / Matt Powledge Joe Lorig
USC Trojans Pac-12 Lincoln Riley 2022 5 0 1.000 60 10 .857 Josh Henson Alex Grinch Ryan Dougherty
Washington Huskies Pac-12 Kalen DeBoer 2022 4 1 .800 16 7 .696 Ryan Grubb / JaMarcus Shephard William Inge / Chuck Morrell Eric Schmidt
Florida Gators SEC Billy Napier 2022 3 2 .600 43 14 .754 Rob Sale Sean Spencer / Patrick Toney Chris Couch
LSU Tigers SEC Brian Kelly 2022 4 1 .800 150 62 .708 Mike Denbrock Matt House Brian Polian
Georgia Southern Eagles Sun Belt Clay Helton 2022 3 2 .600 49 26 .653 Bryan Ellis Will Harris Turner West
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Sun Belt Michael Desormeaux 2022 3 3 .500 3 3 .500 Tim Leger LaMar Morgan Luke Paschall
Troy Trojans Sun Belt Jon Sumrall 2022 3 2 .600 3 2 .600 Joe Craddock Shiel Wood Vacant
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:28 am to UAH_Tiger2
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Sanders and it's not even close. If people take the time to look at what he has done at Jackson St its actually impressive to turn that place around from a losing program to a winning one with a limited amount of resources.
That is a huge leap from a D2 HBCU to an SEC program.
Where he is now, Coach Prime can pull in two or three really high quality athletes using his name and then out-talent the other teams on his level; in P5 programs you can't succeed with a couple of 5 stars and the rest of the class made up of average guys.
If you were a top-level football player and had offers from Saban at Bama (dynasty, puts kids in the league), Kirby at UGA (appear to be poised to compete for titles over the next 3-5 years), and Auburn with Coach Prime, who hasn't won anything, hasn't put guys in the league, but he's famous and flashy...who are you realistically picking?
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:29 am to greygoose
What’s hilarious is how obviously clueless you are. You really should look at what Deion Sanders has done at Jackson State.
He has SIGNIFICANTLY changed that program and in a very short amount of time. He’s greatly improved their recruiting and changed the mindset of the players in that program.
Its not about getting Travis Hunter, but stop selling what Sanders has done short since you obviously have zero knowledge of what he has done at that program….whether its a small HBCU school or a SEC program, its the mentality that is needed. .
Deion Sanders knows how a championship program should be run and he could bring in a quality staff unlike Harsin, who can’t get anyone who is willing to work for him that didn’t have a Idaho address or an Auburn degree.
Sanders has a very infectious energy that people want to be around….coaches want to coach with him, and players want to play for coaches like that. Its a risk, but any coach honestly will be a risk at this point and he has a lot of upside.
He has SIGNIFICANTLY changed that program and in a very short amount of time. He’s greatly improved their recruiting and changed the mindset of the players in that program.
Its not about getting Travis Hunter, but stop selling what Sanders has done short since you obviously have zero knowledge of what he has done at that program….whether its a small HBCU school or a SEC program, its the mentality that is needed. .
Deion Sanders knows how a championship program should be run and he could bring in a quality staff unlike Harsin, who can’t get anyone who is willing to work for him that didn’t have a Idaho address or an Auburn degree.
Sanders has a very infectious energy that people want to be around….coaches want to coach with him, and players want to play for coaches like that. Its a risk, but any coach honestly will be a risk at this point and he has a lot of upside.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:31 am to PJinAtl
The unnecessary assumption you’re making is if he can pull a coupla recruits at JS that he will only pull in a couple here. Obviously Auburn has 100 fold the prestige/ exposure/ and resources to convince more than a couple recruits to come.
Even Harsin can reel in 10 quality players and he doesn’t even try and his reputation is pathetic. Deion will outdo Harsin in half a recruiting cycle.
Even Harsin can reel in 10 quality players and he doesn’t even try and his reputation is pathetic. Deion will outdo Harsin in half a recruiting cycle.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 8:34 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:47 am to RandySavage
quote:I've stated it before, and I'll do it again. Harsin was not the first choice, or the second. I am confident he was way down the list, but the best we could get. There is a major issue with our reputation concerning coaches right now. Justified or not. Tubs and Jetgate, Chizik wins a natty then fired two years later, Gus given a massive extension and pay raise then fired a couple of years later.
You wrote all that when we just gave some Idaho slap dick a huge contract less than two years ago like he was some big time proven coach. He was clearly overseeing a program in a slow decline from his predecessors in the Mountain West.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:48 am to AUWDE
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Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:02 am to PJinAtl
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If you were a top-level football player and had offers from Saban at Bama (dynasty, puts kids in the league), Kirby at UGA (appear to be poised to compete for titles over the next 3-5 years), and Auburn with Coach Prime, who hasn't won anything, hasn't put guys in the league, but he's famous and flashy...who are you realistically picking?
By that line of thinking who in the world would choose Harsin or many of the other names being thrown out?
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:04 am to RandySavage
I don't understand dudes who are ride or die Freeze
He's a complete goober, a reckless human being, and his results are merely above average. He's not at the top of other lists - I don't understand why the Auburn-Freeze connection persists since he's never coached here. His candidacy seems like a holdover from a Gus era we need to move on from.
He's a complete goober, a reckless human being, and his results are merely above average. He's not at the top of other lists - I don't understand why the Auburn-Freeze connection persists since he's never coached here. His candidacy seems like a holdover from a Gus era we need to move on from.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:04 am to allin2010
All-In....
Respecting your identity...
Question please?
I am part of the post game Sunday campus trash clean up crew and the things that come my on Sunday's are spot on with your posts.
Are you the Director of the Sunday Trash pick up crew who signs my paychecks? LOL...
As you know sir....Aubie is going to be just fine.
By they way everyone...you can only imagine the things found on campus on Sundays mornings day after. TV's, generators, tents, tables, couches, coolers full, chairs and yes $$$$$. One could start a rental business.
AuburnTiger if you are out here....it was indeed a pleasure to meet you and your family Saturday.
Respecting your identity...
Question please?
I am part of the post game Sunday campus trash clean up crew and the things that come my on Sunday's are spot on with your posts.
Are you the Director of the Sunday Trash pick up crew who signs my paychecks? LOL...
As you know sir....Aubie is going to be just fine.
By they way everyone...you can only imagine the things found on campus on Sundays mornings day after. TV's, generators, tents, tables, couches, coolers full, chairs and yes $$$$$. One could start a rental business.
AuburnTiger if you are out here....it was indeed a pleasure to meet you and your family Saturday.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:08 am to Pettifogger
I haven't really seen anyone 100% on Freeze. We can't deny some of our big money people are though, which puts him on the list.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:11 am to AUWDE
quote:Almost everything you wrote in your post, is based off of less than two years of coaching. All of the things you say he will do, is based off of an extremely small period of time. Your feelings and emotions are over ruling logic and reason. A jump to somewhere like the Sun Belt would be massive, but we are talking about a school with Alabama/Saban, UGA/Kirby, A&M/Jimbo, and OM/Kiffin on the schedule every damn year. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of some dude who just started boxing, and throwing him in the ring with Ali one week, Frazier, Foreman, then Tyson.
What’s hilarious is how obviously clueless you are. You really should look at what Deion Sanders has done at Jackson State.
He has SIGNIFICANTLY changed that program and in a very short amount of time. He’s greatly improved their recruiting and changed the mindset of the players in that program.
Its not about getting Travis Hunter, but stop selling what Sanders has done short since you obviously have zero knowledge of what he has done at that program….whether its a small HBCU school or a SEC program, its the mentality that is needed. .
Deion Sanders knows how a championship program should be run and he could bring in a quality staff unlike Harsin, who can’t get anyone who is willing to work for him that didn’t have a Idaho address or an Auburn degree.
Sanders has a very infectious energy that people want to be around….coaches want to coach with him, and players want to play for coaches like that. Its a risk, but any coach honestly will be a risk at this point and he has a lot of upside.
You, and others keep wanting to compare what he'd do, against Harsin while missing the big picture of who he would going against. Right now, due to his fame mostly, he's a big fish in a very small pond, and people want to throw him in the damn ocean with Jaws.
You talk about risk like it's all the same, when in reality there are many levels. I like my chances against getting struck by lightening on a clear, sunny day but that all changes if a thunderstorm pops up and I'm standing in the middle of a cow pasture!
Let's face the facts for a second. Sanders has pulled a couple of coveted recruits and he's won a few ball games at a place that hasn't been historically good. But, if you look a little closer, you will find that those accomplishments are extremely brief. He isn't exactly facing the best coaching staffs in football for one thing, and a couple of recruits don't exactly scream consistency. Going back to my boxing analogy, Buster Douglas has a great fight once, and beat Tyson. What did he do after that?
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:37 am to greygoose
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Proven winner before he got to Nebraska
You serious Clark?
Frost had two total seasons as a HC before being hired at Nebraska. Half of those years he finished with a losing record.
He was 19-7 in two seasons.
For comparison, Harsin was 76-24 when hired.
One of these was a proven winner, the other was not. Harsin was about as sure fire winner as there was. Boise has crumbled since he left.
Harsin is clearly out of his depth here and he should not see the end of the season…
But that’s irrelevant to your comment. Frost simply was NOT a proven winner when hired at Nebraska. He had just one good season.
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:37 am to IAmNERD
His kids aint seeing the field in the SEC? Sanduer Sanders had 7 SEC offers to play QB, what are you going on about? The other Son was a SCAR but transferred out go to JSU
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:43 am to Pettifogger
I did not know a potential HC has to have coached at Auburn.
Have you met Freeze personally and what do you have for back up to support your opinions of the man or just internet fodder?
We already have a national black sheep in the Auburn family. One that we took a chance on before anyone else would touch him. I see that was a bad choice for Aubie in basketball.
Hugh Freeze is on a mission to clear his name, build a successful program at a school he can win big at. He will be given an opportunity soon at a big school.
He senses that school is Auburn and his bags have been packed since February. Whether he gets the call or not only time will tell and non of us here know.
The good book teaches redemption, forgiveness. I am glad Aubie believes in it or Coach Pearl would not be here. Hopefully Aubie can catch lightning in a bottle twice.
Have you met Freeze personally and what do you have for back up to support your opinions of the man or just internet fodder?
We already have a national black sheep in the Auburn family. One that we took a chance on before anyone else would touch him. I see that was a bad choice for Aubie in basketball.
Hugh Freeze is on a mission to clear his name, build a successful program at a school he can win big at. He will be given an opportunity soon at a big school.
He senses that school is Auburn and his bags have been packed since February. Whether he gets the call or not only time will tell and non of us here know.
The good book teaches redemption, forgiveness. I am glad Aubie believes in it or Coach Pearl would not be here. Hopefully Aubie can catch lightning in a bottle twice.
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:51 am to BigTastey
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I am glad Aubie believes in it or Coach Pearl would not be here. Hopefully Aubie can catch lightning in a bottle twice.
Pearl vs Freeze's situation are a little different... Pearl was just cookin' up some good ol' bbq for future players and their families. Freeze was hiring prostitutes for young men under the age of 22 so that they would come to his school. little different don't you think?
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