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re: Auburn offense with Sean White at Qb

Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:26 am to
Posted by WareagleKK
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:26 am to
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I've already openly admitted play calling isn't the best, and is downright awful some times, but some of this goes on Sean White.


shaky decision making for a freshman is to be expected. I'd venture to guess decision making tends to improve as you get more PT and the game slows down for you.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:28 am to
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shaky decision making for a freshman


RS Freshman/ sophomore
Posted by WareagleKK
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:28 am to
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Yes, this goes for 2015.

2013 and 2014, not so much. He was accurate on the deep ball and his yards per pass attempt were up.

I was looking at the whole picture.


Unfortunately, I think JJ of '13/14 is dead. That guy no longer exists and it's all between his ears.
Posted by WareagleKK
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:29 am to
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RS Freshman/ sophomore


point still stands. 1st time starter and playing in an offense that wasn't really even built for him, no less.
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:30 am to
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quote:
shaky decision making for a freshman


RS Freshman


So taking his first live snaps of D1 football.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:30 am to
Agreed on all accounts, IF they are being developed properly. However, Sean White's worst game of the year came against Memphis in the last game of the year.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:32 am to
I agree. It seems all mental with him. His confidence must be at rock bottom. Jay Tate has pointed to Duke Williams for this since they were roommates...but who really knows?
Posted by WareagleKK
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:38 am to
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Agreed on all accounts, IF they are being developed properly. However, Sean White's worst game of the year came against Memphis in the last game of the year.


Fully agree. That game was a shitshow and he'd be the first one to admit it probably. My guess is, he just flat out had a bad game. That was the most uncomfortable I've seen him, in game, out there. Sometimes you just gotta chalk one up to a bad outing.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:10 am to
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point still stands. 1st time starter



There is a pretty big different between RS Freshman and True Freshman. There is a clear difference between Sean White out of HS in 2014 and Sean White 2nd year player 2015 for example.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 10:11 am
Posted by WareagleKK
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:25 am to
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There is a pretty big different between RS Freshman and True Freshman. There is a clear difference between Sean White out of HS in 2014 and Sean White 2nd year player 2015 for example.


Not saying there's no difference, but again my point still stands. He wass a 1st time player with no previous experience and he was a freshman.

There will also be a clear difference as a RS Soph, RS Jr, and RS Sr. Typically the game will slow down, you'll learn to read defenses better, you'll improve, etc. as time goes by.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 10:26 am
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 10:56 am to
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I remember Sean White's first drive in the red zone against Mississippi State that resulted in an interception.
didnt help that the roll out was to the short side of the field.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:01 am to
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Not saying there's no difference, but again my point still stands. He wass a 1st time player with no previous experience and he was a freshman.


I've just always had a beef with people who have been in college for a year already being called "Freshman" especially in consideration for "Freshman Teams" like AA FR


If somehow Woody Barrett comes in and wins the heisman, I think it is unfair that he wouldn't be the first "freshman" winner.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:02 am to
Thinking of Barrett, KK what are your thoughts on him if we say pick up Kellen Mond?

I know he is raw and sort of new to the position, but I feel slightly alarmed by his passing stats. When I watch his videos and stuff, he seems to have arm talent though which is confusing
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:06 am to
The ball was lined up in the middle of the field, dude.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:08 am to
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I've just always had a beef with people who have been in college for a year already being called "Freshman"
Why? they have been redshirted, taken limited reps in practice and had limited participation in mid season practices. They have zero playing time in real time situations, have developed zero familiarity with the speed of an SEC game, and have zero experience with the game on the line in a college environment. Most of the freshman havent played in front of crowds in excess of 20k...image playing in a hostile environment in front of 100k or 80k...

RFreshman and freshman are in the same boat in my book. Which is why i feel so strongly that Sean will be much more effective in his second year as our Qb.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:25 am to
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hey have zero playing time in real time situations


I don't have an issue with this being the qualification, just why they are then called freshmen when they technically aren't.

Call them "rookies" and fair enough. Just don't see why it is based on academic year but then make modifications



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have developed zero familiarity with the speed of an SEC gam


Someone who has practiced for at least a year with SEC D1 talent definitely is more prepared for speed of an SEC game than someone who went to prom only a few months previous


I find it hard to believe the redshirt year Sean White went through did very little to prepare him for last year which is what you are implicating by saying they are "in the same boat"
Posted by WareagleKK
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:56 am to
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Thinking of Barrett, KK what are your thoughts on him if we say pick up Kellen Mond?

I know he is raw and sort of new to the position, but I feel slightly alarmed by his passing stats. When I watch his videos and stuff, he seems to have arm talent though which is confusing


I think you're spot on w/ Barrett. He needs to sit. He'll get eaten alive on obvious passing downs and isn't enough of a dynamic running threat to warrant 9 man boxes like NM did, which opened up 1 on 1 passing situations for his WRs. He has WORLDS of talent and seems to have the "it factor" though. I think he's the best true dual threat HS QB we've picked up (knowing what we know about Kiehl Frazier being a flop).

My thoughts on Woody won't change if we land Mond. The fact of the matter is, we need as much competition between top tier DUAL THREAT QBs, moving forward, as we can get. Both are great talents, but Woody is a better runner.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:05 pm to
What is holding him back passing? Just his grasp of scheme from being a new QB?


Posted by WareagleKK
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:25 pm to
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What is holding him back passing? Just his grasp of scheme from being a new QB?


likely the same thing that holds most young QBs back....his lack of knowledge of the playbook, ability to read defenses, ability to watch film and truly apply what they've watched to the field...stuff like that. All between the ears. There isn't a throw Woody can't make in terms of arm talent, it's just getting used to these extremely complex defenses that he'll see in the SEC every week.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:52 pm to
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ikely the same thing that holds most young QBs back....his lack of knowledge of the playbook, ability to read defenses, ability to watch film and truly apply what they've watched to the field...stuff like that


So he is on the same level coming in as if he had been coached by Lashlee for 3 years?
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