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Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:06 pm to Fear The Thumb
Jeremy Johnson took big shits against Louisville and LSU, while Sean White took big shits against Memphis and Ole Miss. The quarterbacking in 2015, in general, was a big ole pile of shite.
The fact remains: Jeremy Johnson wasn't labeled as "shite" before the 2015 season. He was a Heisman candidate, labeled by the media and Auburn fans, and supposed to change the opinion that Gus Malzahn couldn't develop a high-school quarterback or a pocket passing quarterback. Those opinions still linger given how Jeremy Johnson, Sean White, Barrett Trotter and Clint Moseley have looked in his offense.
Honestly, Jeremy Johnson's career numbers don't look all that bad.
The fact remains: Jeremy Johnson wasn't labeled as "shite" before the 2015 season. He was a Heisman candidate, labeled by the media and Auburn fans, and supposed to change the opinion that Gus Malzahn couldn't develop a high-school quarterback or a pocket passing quarterback. Those opinions still linger given how Jeremy Johnson, Sean White, Barrett Trotter and Clint Moseley have looked in his offense.
Honestly, Jeremy Johnson's career numbers don't look all that bad.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:44 pm to TTsTowel
Ole Miss game??? You mean the game where KJ, JJ, Jason Smith and Sean all rotated playing QB?
Go watch the vid in the OP. Sean played pretty good considering how much Gus fricked with his rhythm
Go watch the vid in the OP. Sean played pretty good considering how much Gus fricked with his rhythm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:07 pm to ChexMix
Sean White can do no wrong in your eyes.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:39 pm to TTsTowel
White threw for 258 1 td and 1 pick against ole miss. That's not "shitting the bed". Sure, he's not the greatest QB ever but he can be really solid and win a lot of games
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:40 pm to TTsTowel
quote:Thats not true. I saw freshman mistakes all throughout last season. I also saw some damn good reads, throws and ability to lead a football team.
Sean White can do no wrong in your eyes.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:40 pm to TTsTowel
Well Sean White is Drew Brees 2.0
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:49 pm to warau
What was his completion percentage? 43%?
I'm sorry, but the whole "he threw for a lot of yards" just doesn't do it for me when there are no touchdowns the majority of the time.
I'm sorry, but the whole "he threw for a lot of yards" just doesn't do it for me when there are no touchdowns the majority of the time.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:53 pm to TTsTowel
quote:the ole, fall back on random statistics routine.
What was his completion percentage? 43%?
Sean cant throw for TDs if the GOT DAMN coach doesnt call pass plays in the red zone. Go watch the mother fricking vids. In those vids are the actual plays that happened last year. I know its hard for you to understand. If i had a crayon i would spell it out for you.
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:56 pm to TTsTowel
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, but the whole "he threw for a lot of yards" just doesn't do it for me when there are no touchdowns the majority of the time.
Sounds like a play calling issue
Posted on 5/30/16 at 11:13 pm to TTsTowel
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What was his completion percentage? 43%?
You know damn well that's not all on him.
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White completed 19-of-34 against Arkansas, which by itself might not seem that impressive. When you consider that of his 15 incompletions, six were dropped passes, two were spikes, one was a throwaway, and another was a pass where he was hit as he threw the ball, his adjusted completion percentage of 79.2 percent looks much better. White was the team’s highest-graded quarterback in 2015, and was the only quarterback on the team with a positive grade as a passer
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:47 am to ChexMix
Holy hell. We literally had the worst RZ playcalling. Gus just goes into the most overly cautious shell ever. Its either wildcat, a run up the gut or some trick play. He REALLY needs to run some better pass plays other than a rollout next year in the RZ.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:50 am to TTsTowel
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Honestly, Jeremy Johnson's career numbers don't look all that bad.
But his performance on the field is. His YPP avg is absolutely atrocious. He literally has zero accuracy on the few deep balls he throws, and every other pass is a quick WR screen. JJ is awful to watch. SW ran a much more diverse passing offense........until we reached the RZ.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:58 am to WareagleKK
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:21 am to WareagleKK
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Holy hell. We literally had the worst RZ playcalling.
You can't have good playcalling in the RZ when your offense isn't designed for it.
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He REALLY needs to run some better pass plays other than a rollout next year in the RZ.
The wide open receivers SW finds in those clips are only that way because our deep route runs safeties/Corners out of the play. At least the rollout gives SW some ability to make plays with his feet and sets up the Lutzie throwback
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:34 am to GenesChin
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The wide open receivers SW finds in those clips are only that way because our deep route runs safeties/Corners out of the play. At least the rollout gives SW some ability to make plays with his feet and sets up the Lutzie throwback
the problem is that we've run that play too many times now. It's on tape too much and teams have started defending against it or reading keys on that play quicker.
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You can't have good playcalling in the RZ when your offense isn't designed for it.
His offense worked fine when we ran the zone read. Gus just needs to tweak it to fit a more balanced attack. Sometimes Gus gets too enamored with getting to 3rd and short and staying "on schedule" instead of getting chunk throws into the end zone.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:46 am to WareagleKK
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the problem is that we've run that play too many times now. It's on tape too much and teams have started defending against it or reading keys on that play quicker.
Assuming that it is a static 1 read play. That is typically accompanied by flood routes to the rollout side which would theoretically be open if the defense keys on that.
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His offense worked fine when we ran the zone read.
Exactly my point. You can't take away deep passes AND the threat of a DT QB in the red zone and expect to be good there
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Sometimes Gus gets too enamored with getting to 3rd and short and staying "on schedule" instead of getting chunk throws into the end zone.
Those pass plays don't exist in our offense.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:14 am to GenesChin
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Assuming that it is a static 1 read play. That is typically accompanied by flood routes to the rollout side which would theoretically be open if the defense keys on that.
Some teams also could man up the strongside TE and just make that man the defender's sole priority.
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Exactly my point. You can't take away deep passes AND the threat of a DT QB in the red zone and expect to be good there
My point is Gus just can't run THAT version of his offense with Sean White. He just can't. If he tries, again, it will be 2015 all over. My gut says he won't do that but we'd have to wait and see.
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Those pass plays don't exist in our offense.
Again, this is likely a necessary change that Gus surely is aware of if he is going to start White.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:22 am to ChexMix
43% passing is good?
I remember Sean White's first drive in the red zone against Mississippi State that resulted in an interception.
I've already openly admitted play calling isn't the best, and is downright awful some times, but some of this goes on Sean White.
I remember Sean White's first drive in the red zone against Mississippi State that resulted in an interception.
I've already openly admitted play calling isn't the best, and is downright awful some times, but some of this goes on Sean White.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 9:25 am to WareagleKK
quote:Yes, this goes for 2015.
But his performance on the field is. His YPP avg is absolutely atrocious. He literally has zero accuracy on the few deep balls he throws, and every other pass is a quick WR screen
2013 and 2014, not so much. He was accurate on the deep ball and his yards per pass attempt were up.
I was looking at the whole picture.
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