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Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:05 am to SlimCharles140
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:05 am to SlimCharles140
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Great article, thanks for sharing. Could their lack of separation be due to the Oline not giving Cam enough time to throw?
The Carolina OL is not very good to be sure, but there are many cases where Cam has plenty of time and doesn't throw it, with fan after fan screaming "OHMIZOD WHY IS CAM HOLDING THE BALL SO LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGG??!?!?"
Well, its because his fugging WRs aren't open or getting open. And the one WR he does have that has the ability to get open (Ginn) has hands of stone.
jang, to his credit, HAS harped on the lack of quality WR and OL on the Panthers. But to his discredit, considering his statement above, he seems to think that since Cam's WRs are so bad that Cam should never throw the ball. So I guess he thinks Cam should either take 20 sacks a game or never throw it and take off and Mike Vick it every goddam down.
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:15 am to beatbammer
quote:No, that's not the case and you know I'm not that stupid. Just pointing out that Cam has made bad decisions on his own. Cam might've had to throw through tight windows but my question is: are there tight windows on every blasting WR running routes or is he choosing to force the ball?
Jang, to his credit, HAS harped on the lack of quality WR and OL on the Panthers. But to his discredit, considering his statement above, he seems to think that since Cam's WRs are so bad that Cam should never throw the ball. So I guess he thinks Cam should either take 20 sacks a game or never throw it and take off and Mike Vick it every goddam down.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 5:40 pm to jangalang
Lot of moves being made:
-Nick Fairley got a huge contract with the Saints
-Lemonier signs with the Jets
-The Colts made Quan Bray an ERFA- exclusive rights free agent. He is probably staying put but his spot isn't guaranteed.
-Karlos Dansby goes back to the Cardinals. One more good year and he will beat Takeo for the most tackles in the NFL from former Auburn players. With that said, Karlos will willingly tell you that the league gips him out of tackles so he should probably already have it.
-SenDerrick Marks was cut but will land somewhere else.
-Darren Bates signed with the Tennessee Titans to be their ST stud.
-Jerraud Powers is still a FA
-Chargers release King Dunlap
Carolina Panthers:
-Traded Kony Ealy to the Pats for a second round pick. WTF! Why does everyone help out the Pats
-Mike Tolbert to the Bills..as a RB not FB. Underrated runner in my eyes for years.
-Klein, a backup LB, to the Saints
-Ted Ginn to the Saints
- Cut WR Corey "Philly" Brown
- OT Mike Remmers to the Vikings on a 30 million dollar contract. LMAO!!
-Resigned Julius Peppers ( farewell tour?)
-Signed Safety Micheal Adams from Green Bay.
-Signed former Viking Matt Kalil, a massive OT, to a 55.5 million dollar deal.
- Signed veteran WR Charles Johnson from the Vikings.
-Resigned CB Captain Munnerlyn from the Vikings. Dope!
-Signed WR Russel Shepherd from the Bucs.
-Nick Fairley got a huge contract with the Saints
-Lemonier signs with the Jets
-The Colts made Quan Bray an ERFA- exclusive rights free agent. He is probably staying put but his spot isn't guaranteed.
-Karlos Dansby goes back to the Cardinals. One more good year and he will beat Takeo for the most tackles in the NFL from former Auburn players. With that said, Karlos will willingly tell you that the league gips him out of tackles so he should probably already have it.
-SenDerrick Marks was cut but will land somewhere else.
-Darren Bates signed with the Tennessee Titans to be their ST stud.
-Jerraud Powers is still a FA
-Chargers release King Dunlap
Carolina Panthers:
-Traded Kony Ealy to the Pats for a second round pick. WTF! Why does everyone help out the Pats
-Mike Tolbert to the Bills..as a RB not FB. Underrated runner in my eyes for years.
-Klein, a backup LB, to the Saints
-Ted Ginn to the Saints
- Cut WR Corey "Philly" Brown
- OT Mike Remmers to the Vikings on a 30 million dollar contract. LMAO!!
-Resigned Julius Peppers ( farewell tour?)
-Signed Safety Micheal Adams from Green Bay.
-Signed former Viking Matt Kalil, a massive OT, to a 55.5 million dollar deal.
- Signed veteran WR Charles Johnson from the Vikings.
-Resigned CB Captain Munnerlyn from the Vikings. Dope!
-Signed WR Russel Shepherd from the Bucs.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 3/11/17 at 7:59 am to jangalang
Gettleman is making good moves. One article suggests he's in "win now" mode.
The Panthers own the number 8 pick and two second round picks. I foresee the Panthers being more aggressive than usual during the draft.
The Panthers own the number 8 pick and two second round picks. I foresee the Panthers being more aggressive than usual during the draft.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 10:28 am to jangalang
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Gettleman is making good moves. One article suggests he's in "win now" mode.
The Panthers own the number 8 pick and two second round picks. I foresee the Panthers being more aggressive than usual during the draft.
Would be nice if the first 7 picks before Carolina set up such that a team below us who really wanted a QB (Deshaun Watson?) would be willing to trade for our spot to get their guy. Maybe Cleveland would feel like they need to move up from the 12th pick to jump in front of Buffalo to get their guy? Just dreaming out loud hear. Cleveland has the 1st overall, the 12th pick, the 1st pick in the 2nd round (33rd overall), the 20th pick in the 2nd round (52nd overall), the 1st pick in the 3rd round (65th overall), and the 1st pick in the 4th round (108th overall), and lower picks.
If I were Gettleman, I'd be willing to trade back from #8 to #12 for Clevelands #2, their mid-round 2nd round pick (52nd) and, say, their 4th round pick (108th).
That would give Carolina 3 picks in the 2nd round (40th, 52nd, 64th). Maybe we could use those picks to jump back up into the lower part of the 1st round.
Like I said... just Fantasy GM'ing here.
My preferred players for Carolina's 1st round pick this year are Jamal Adams or OJ Howard. Don't know if Adams is going to last until the 8th pick, so trading back and picking Howard would be pretty sweet.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 11:02 am to beatbammer
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If I were Gettleman, I'd be willing to trade back from #8 to #12 for Clevelands #2, their mid-round 2nd round pick (52nd) and, say, their 4th round pick (108th). That would give Carolina 3 picks in the 2nd round (40th, 52nd, 64th). Maybe we could use those picks to jump back up into the lower part of the 1st round. Like I said... just Fantasy GM'ing here. My preferred players for Carolina's 1st round pick this year are Jamal Adams or OJ Howard. Don't know if Adams is going to last until the 8th pick, so trading back and picking Howard would be pretty sweet.
I would be A-okay with this. The Ealy trade is fishy. Makes me think Gettleman is wanting to part with one of his second round picks to get into the first round again.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 11:19 am to jangalang
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The Ealy trade is fishy
I had high hopes for Ealy, but he was too damned inconsistent. Considering we re-signed Charles Johnson, Mario Addison, and Wes Horton and then went out and signed Julius Peppers for pass-rush depth, Ealy likely didn't have a real spot in the rotation next year. He was either going to be cut before the season or was going to be a FA after the season. The fact that we got anything for him considering that is a positive IMO.
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Makes me think Gettleman is wanting to part with one of his second round picks to get into the first round agai
That is sound thinking IMO. In the hypothetical that that actually happens, my "dream" would be taking OJ Howard first and then, using those 2nd rounders, move up into the bottom of the 1st and take Christian McCaffrey.
With those 2, the offense would be HUGELY upgraded.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 1:25 pm to beatbammer
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my "dream" would be taking OJ Howard first
Why? As a TE or a WR? Greg Olsen will be there for a while. I like McCaffrey a lot because of how versatile he is and feel like besides OT and DE our WR and RB needs are tops. We filled the OT and DE need for the most part in free agency.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 1:51 pm to dshort_bruh
Watch the Panthers take Fournette at #8 though 
Posted on 3/11/17 at 2:23 pm to BowlJackson
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Watch the Panthers take Fournette at #8 though
Posted on 3/11/17 at 3:19 pm to dshort_bruh
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Why? As a TE or a WR?
Because, if we're sticking with that moron, Mike Shula, then we should be more prepared for 2 TE sets.
When your "bread and butter" is the run game as Ron Rivera prefers it, 2 TE sets are ideal for what you want to do.
And here's the thing: we *already* do a lot of 2 TE sets, its just that you never can tell because our current #2 TE, Ed Dickson, is so awful.
Also, Cam did excellent in his rookie year when he had two more-than-competent TEs (Olsen and Jeremy Shockey). And, to be honest, I think OJ Howard would be a better blocker in straight running sets than Olsen.
So yeah, give me Howard to make 2 TE sets more unpredictable and productive and give me McCaffrey who can line up anywhere in the backfield or on the edge... RB, WR, slot receiver.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 3:19 pm to BowlJackson
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Watch the Panthers take Fournette at #8 though
Fingers crossed he's gone by pick #8.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:00 pm to beatbammer
Fournette would be an outstanding fit for the Panthers. Don't be an SEC idiot; the guy is an elite talent. Perfect downhill runner for the Panthers.
Their other option should be to trade back up (if needed) to grab Mixon in the late first or in the second. He's the second best back in this class. Can do everything.
Their other option should be to trade back up (if needed) to grab Mixon in the late first or in the second. He's the second best back in this class. Can do everything.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:07 pm to metafour
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the guy is an elite talent
Guy is a top athletic talent. Just like Trent Richardson, he isn't an elite RB. I think he will be good though.
That said, while he'd be a solid fit for the Panthers, it would be dumb AF to waste a RD1 pick on a RB.
This post was edited on 3/11/17 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:08 pm to metafour
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Their other option should be to trade back up (if needed) to grab Mixon in the late first or in the second. He's the second best back in this class. Can do everything.
#Keeppounding
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:09 pm to jangalang
If it is about winning, Mixon as a value pick is the way to go.
If it is about not drafting shitty human beings, that is a bad choice
If it is about not drafting shitty human beings, that is a bad choice
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:09 pm to metafour
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Fournette would be an outstanding fit for the Panthers. Don't be an SEC idiot; the guy is an elite talent. Perfect downhill runner for the Panthers.
Except that the Panthers don't run "down hill".
They run the damn option so the running back has to have the ability to read the blocking, find the hole, plant his foot and cut. Pretty sure Fournette didn't do much of that at LSU.
And if I'm an "SEC idiot", how do you explain the fact that I'm drooling over "SEC" OJ Howard? I would also cream my pants if LSU safety Jamal Adams dropped to #8.
The Panther's current RB, Jonathan Stewart, is a pretty darned good RB. If the Panthers struggle in their run game, it ain't because Stewart isn't good, its because Mike Shula's passing game is so goddam bad.
The Panthers need a DE, S, OT, and WR waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than they do a RB luxury pick.
"Don't be an idiot."
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:10 pm to GenesChin
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Mixon as a value pick is the way to go.
After the Greg Hardy situation 2 years ago, the Panthers won't touch Mixon with a 10-foot pole.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:10 pm to GenesChin
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That said, he'd be a solid fit for the Panthers but it would be dumb AF to waste a RD1 pick on a RB.
Well we need to. Just not with the eighth pick.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:14 pm to GenesChin
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Guy is a top athletic talent. Just like Trent Richardson, he isn't an elite RB. I think he will be good though.
What a crap comparison. Richardson ran behind a stacked OL on stacked offensive teams; Fournette has been elite on LSU's shite-tier offense which featured no QB and an average at best OL. Fournette has shown nothing to suggest that he isn't an elite RB; and no, the games against Alabama wherein he was met by 3+ defenders at or behind the LOS really don't mean anything.
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