re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition

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That's not a recruiting issue

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not many places can recruit to a level

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It's not a recruiting issue, it is recruiting. Got it.

We didn't have multiple injuries, we had 1 injury and our pass rush disappeared. (Well Daniels also got kicked off the team. But still)

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Again it has been our most talented position by recruiting rankings so why you always single him out makes no sense

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His real gripe is we don't recruit pass rush specialist/ speed rushers. That is pretty legit given most of our DE recruits are SDE/potential DT guys.

Here are the 2013-2016 HS DE recruits. Only two of them have played significant snaps at DE. Carl Lawson is really the only speed rusher/pass rush specialist type guy. Davidson isn't a speed rusher

2013 1/2

Lawson
Elijah Daniel - Mostly played inside before the boot

2014 0/3

Andrew Williams - Moved inside
Justin Thornton - Left team
Rasheed Kennion - Left team

2015 0/2

Prince Tega - Moved to OT
Byron Cowart - Moved inside

2016 Maybe 2/4

Prince Sammons - Moved to OT
Marlon Davidson- SDE and most writers projected a future move inside
Daquan Newkirk - Plays DT in JUCO
Nick Coe - Projected SDE 247


Before this argument, his thing was about DT depth recruiting. Which was legit given we never had >1 HS DT recruit 2013-2015

2013-
5* Carl Lawson
5* Monty Adams
4/5* Elijah Daniel
4* Ben Bradley JUCO

2014-
4* Justin Thornton
4* Dontavious Russell
4* Andrew Williams
4* Devonte Lambert JUCO
3* Devaroe Lawrence JUCO

2015-
5* Byron Cowart
4* Prince Tega
3* Jauntavius Johnson
3* Maurice Swain JUCO

2016-
5* Derrick Brown
5* Marlon Davidson
4* Antwuan Jackson
4* Prince Sammons
4* Nick Coe
4* Paul James
3* Tashawn Manning
3* Daquan Newkirk

2017-
4* Markaviest Bryant
3* Alec Jackson
3* Tyrone Truesdell

I mean, you aren't going to find more than 2-3 schools in the country who have recruited that level of talent on the DL over the last 5 years. Last year was the first year that wasn't well above average.

You can complain all you want about what happened after they got on campus but those are some pretty outstanding recruiting results at that position.

We've been rotating like mofos on the DL. Just because some of them were "tweeners" doesn't mean they should have ALL moved inside. I could be wrong but I don't remember hearing anything about Cowart moving inside while he was being recruited. That's an after the fact problem, stop feeding those boys so much.

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I agree. Go get between the DL and food and tell them that.

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That's the OL's job. Win win for both sides of the LOS.

Finally off the road. Pumped about that Harris commitment

I can't believe I am agreeing with Randy, but the best pass rush DE's in our recruiting footprint have almost all been early leans to rival schools.

Outside of Bama, nobody has stocked up with them. Our DL has been the strongest part of our D each year though.

We have not been able to move LB's to that spot out of necessity. We are finally deep enough, and can spare a guy or two at the LB spots. Moultry should do nicely. Plus, we should have the best pass rush in years from the inside guys.

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We need to start converting some LBs to DE.

I would start with TD Moulty

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Markeviest Bryant and TD Moultry, both, should be able to help as pass rushers.

I have heard our staff is very confident in landing Fields.

The thing with recruits, you never know what they are telling other staffs.