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Posted on 3/17/15 at 6:19 pm to GenesChin
I'm looking forward to seeing a bulked up Lang next season...and Reed for sure!
When does the period start when they can hold late spring/early summer practices?
I remember Pearl saying that the NCAA passed a rule recently that allowed this practice time. I assume it'll begin soon after Spencer and the others arrive.
When does the period start when they can hold late spring/early summer practices?
I remember Pearl saying that the NCAA passed a rule recently that allowed this practice time. I assume it'll begin soon after Spencer and the others arrive.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 6:29 pm to AUNashville
Posted on 3/17/15 at 6:44 pm to AUNashville
quote:There is nor such thing in formality. Kids workout and play pick up games all summer and the coaches can observe 2 hours per week. First official practices start in late September. The Summer is heavy recruiting and evaluation periods for the coaches through AAU tourney. Also schools camps where they bring in kids as well. There really isn't much time for staff to observe more than a couple hours a week anyway.
When does the period start when they can hold late spring/early summer practices?
quote:The rule is 2 hours of observation a week, not actual practices.
I remember Pearl saying that the NCAA passed a rule recently that allowed this practice time.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 6:56 pm to AUNashville
quote:As bad as Barbee was that is not an indictment on him no matter what JJ says. Reality is most kids have already been bought by the AAU brand they play for, mainly Nike. A big recruiting budget for an Under Armour college basketball program is pretty useless unless you have a Rock Star coach that can make an impact like we have now. Looks like JJ is still completely clueless to the affect apparel has on college basketball recruiting in many case. I'm not saying or implying we leave UA. We have the coach to bring in the top UA kids which is good enough to win.
Bmarcello posted this on his twitter page...
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Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:09 am to ellitor
Our compliance guys were all up Barbees as s too. He wanted to recruit Calipari style. Compliance didn't want to deal with Calipari fallout (UMass/Memphis vacated final fours)
Posted on 3/18/15 at 4:25 pm to GenesChin
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Lonely Tailgater @LonelyTailgater · 6h 6 hours ago
Auburn's strange (& strained) relationship w/ state of AL AAU teams is why the school spent so much on recruiting w/ nothing to show for it.
Auburn's incoming recruiting class is further proof that the school is STILL feeling the after effects of the Komara mess, 10+ years later.
I like Auburn's recruiting class, but it's devoid of state of AL players. Gotta either win or have a high profile coach to keep this up.
Or, let Pearl engage state of AL talent in a meaningful way, which Jacobs didn't let either of the two previous coaches do.
I'm not saying Lebo/Barbee's woes were all based on being cut off from certain top shelf AL talent, but it didn't help their causes.
Pearl is dealing with the same crap Tubs dealt w/ in football post-Tot, there are burned bridges within AL that have to be rebuilt.
Now, there's NO reason, sitting here on 3/18/15, that Auburn can't outcompete bammer for top in-state hoops talent going forward. None.
This is from twitter and I wanted to get you guys thoughts, particularly about rebuilding the burned bridges.
I know AAU is a touchy subject but it's a necessary evil. I thought the above were some good points about Auburn's current position with in-state recruiting.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 4:43 pm to undecided
I'll give some of it a shot from what little I know. MarshallCOTiger probably can give you a legit breakdown
Definitely a huge part. We basically had to go out to recruit. Look at a school like Tennessee football, they spend a ton mostly due to lack of instate/close talent
This is misleading. Alabama didn't have top shelf talent in this recruiting class. The only guy from AL we probably would have taken (not named Purifoy) was Donta Hall who committed to Alabama in April of last year. Basically, there was no one else to take from AL
See above
I believe we have already started to do this
Compliance was all over Barbee for sure. He was a cruddy coach but his Auburn recruiting efforts aren't in line with his recruiting track record. We would have still sucked, just less
We always have and likely always will be behidn the 8ball in our state.
There really is no excuse not to
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Auburn's strange (& strained) relationship w/ state of AL AAU teams is why the school spent so much on recruiting w/ nothing to show for it.
Definitely a huge part. We basically had to go out to recruit. Look at a school like Tennessee football, they spend a ton mostly due to lack of instate/close talent
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Auburn's incoming recruiting class is further proof that the school is STILL feeling the after effects of the Komara mess, 10+ years later.
This is misleading. Alabama didn't have top shelf talent in this recruiting class. The only guy from AL we probably would have taken (not named Purifoy) was Donta Hall who committed to Alabama in April of last year. Basically, there was no one else to take from AL
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I like Auburn's recruiting class, but it's devoid of state of AL players. Gotta either win or have a high profile coach to keep this up.
See above
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Or, let Pearl engage state of AL talent in a meaningful way, which Jacobs didn't let either of the two previous coaches do.
I believe we have already started to do this
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I'm not saying Lebo/Barbee's woes were all based on being cut off from certain top shelf AL talent, but it didn't help their causes.
Compliance was all over Barbee for sure. He was a cruddy coach but his Auburn recruiting efforts aren't in line with his recruiting track record. We would have still sucked, just less
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Pearl is dealing with the same crap Tubs dealt w/ in football post-Tot, there are burned bridges within AL that have to be rebuilt.
We always have and likely always will be behidn the 8ball in our state.
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Now, there's NO reason, sitting here on 3/18/15, that Auburn can't outcompete bammer for top in-state hoops talent going forward. None.
There really is no excuse not to
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 8:40 am
Posted on 3/18/15 at 4:48 pm to undecided
quote:My understanding is it's outdated & not current now. The fact we are in on a guy like Austin Wiley, recruiting Josh Langford very hard, & recruiting other Southeast Elite AAU team kids which Komara still has a big hand in shows we are recruiting this state and for the time being JJ is letting CBP deal w/ Komara or the team he still has a heavy hand in. FWIW Skip Jansen, who really understands the AAU side of things, says Komara is no where near what the AU Admins perceive him to be and therefore restricted themselves way too much after the NCAA directives were done.
This is from twitter and I wanted to get you guys thoughts, particularly about rebuilding the burned bridges.
I know AAU is a touchy subject but it's a necessary evil. I thought the above were some good points about Auburn's current position with in-state recruiting.
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 3/18/15 at 4:53 pm to ellitor
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recruiting Josh Langford very hard,
This was the guy that made me start paying attention. I also know 16 & 17 are projected to be big in-state recruiting years and wanted to know how we'll be positioned going forward.
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We always have and likely always will be behidn the 8ball in our state.
I was hoping Bama would keep Grant for an additional year to help Bruce get a stronger foothold
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There really is no excuse not to
From what you both are saying it sounds like Compliance is starting to open things up and hopefully it pays off
This post was edited on 3/18/15 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/18/15 at 6:10 pm to undecided
Bruce brought his brand and it sells.We just have to win and hold on to Chuck Person till we win consistently
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:25 pm to GenesChin
Barbee wasn't hampered by compliance as much as he was hampered by our shoe contract. He was a Nike dude all the way and his ties were all Nike. He was either unwilling or unable to get around that fact.
Bruce hasn't let the shoe ties hurt him at all. It does help that as Gene said earlier we seem to have relaxed the "self-imposed" ban on recruiting Mark Komara guys.
Bruce hasn't let the shoe ties hurt him at all. It does help that as Gene said earlier we seem to have relaxed the "self-imposed" ban on recruiting Mark Komara guys.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 8:34 pm to warau
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Barbee wasn't hampered by compliance
I promise you, you don't know what you're talking about if you think this is the case
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Barbee wasn't hampered by compliance as much as he was hampered by our shoe contract. He was a Nike dude all the way and his ties were all Nike. He was either unwilling or unable to get around that fact.
Shoe contract was an issue but definitely blown out of proportion.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 9:53 pm to GenesChin
For whatever reason, I'm not worried about Bruce and the shoe contracts. I think he can work around that.
Posted on 3/18/15 at 10:44 pm to undecided
quote:No reason to worry. It's an issue for a UA school if they don't have a Rock Star coach to overcome it. Well guess what, we do.
For whatever reason, I'm not worried about Bruce and the shoe contracts. I think he can work around that.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 8:02 am to ellitor
So I heard the other day that Reeds issues stem almost entirely from not knowing wtf he should be doing. He would say while on the fricking court, "Heeeyyyy, coooach, am I supposed to stand here?"
Hopefully he can fix that
Hopefully he can fix that
Posted on 3/19/15 at 8:10 am to GenesChin
Damn. How long has he been playing basketball?
Posted on 3/19/15 at 8:13 am to BowlJackson
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Damn. How long has he been playing basketball?
At Auburn? Less than 3 months. I'm sure basketball IQ plays a role in his inability to learn the O and D but not like he had time or practice to beat it into his skull either
Posted on 3/19/15 at 8:27 am to GenesChin
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This is misleading. Alabama didn't have top shelf talent in this recruiting class. The only guy from AL we probably would have taken was Donta Hall who committed to Alabama in April of last year. Basically, there was no one else to take from AL
The rest is spot on but I wanted to point out Purifoy is from Alabama. He had a disagreement with his HS coach at Bibb Co and went to Hargrave in early Aug 2014.
Posted on 3/19/15 at 8:39 am to marshallcotiger
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The rest is spot on but I wanted to point out Purifoy is from Alabama.
I meant it in context of guys we "missed" implied by the original tweets. I edited it to better explain
The state is hit or miss for talent though, some years we are stacked and we have years like 2012 where no one is really worth taking.
I always secretly hope we hire a coach with New York connections when Person eventually gets tabbed to HC somewhere
This post was edited on 3/19/15 at 8:42 am
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