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Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:03 pm to oklahogjr
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:03 pm to oklahogjr
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He might be fine with most fanbases but if the departure isn't a promotion to NFL headcoach after a very successful career here It'll be uglier than nutt. The wisconsin fans were quite sour about how he left them high and dry. They quite frankly don't have shite on us when it comes to vitriol and hatred for losing coaches.
Agreed.
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We need defensive talent. We need elite talent. That's all there is to it. We failed. Imagine if the defense got an Alex Collins quality player.
B I N G O. Thank you Sir. I Agree.
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Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:05 pm to SunHog
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Massive advertisements for Texas kids while Coach B talked about a big Texas push all season. I don't see any results of that.
Because of volume?
One of the players signed had offers from Texas and aTm, that is a type of recruit Nutt/Petrino never got.
We also got 5 players from Florida, more in the past two classes than the prior decade combined.
Texas recruits are over rated, the money needs to be spent in Florida.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:05 pm to SunHog
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I do look at the offer lists and we are slightly trending up over Petrino and Nutt recruiting.
So its better, but its not betterer enough.
After a national embarassment..
Followed with SMILE...
and an 0-8 season...
So yes, its true, we did not suddenly transform into Alabama.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:05 pm to Russvegas Dan
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Floridas #1 class in 2010 sure looked good last year.
We haven't beaten florida since the 80's. Never since being in conference with them. And yeah sure we got fricked over by officials that one time but we got beat by 20 last year.
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I'll throw in Georgia's perennial top 10 classes and Tenn's top 15 classes and all their recent SEC titles just for fun.
tenneessee has had retention problems. It's been a horrible program and just been in a state of chaos since kiffin rolled into town and fricked shite up.
Georgia is a perennial powerhouse and much more respected nationally than us. You surely wouldn't bitch about having georgia's success vs our would you?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:05 pm to DaleDenton
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Its not "nutt recruiting".
Another area it differs is 4* who never would see campus would be signed to pad the rankings.
Actual contributors on the field on the defense would be NR and 2* recruits.
I'm still waiting for his explanation of Michigan State's success with "Nutt recruiting"
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:08 pm to oklahogjr
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Floridas #1 class in 2010 sure looked good last year.
We haven't beaten florida since the 80's.
I think you missed the point there bud.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:10 pm to oklahogjr
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And yeah sure we got fricked over by officials that one time but we got beat by 20 last year.
Thats... good for them? I guess? Really puts a cap in their hat over the 0-8 team.
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tenneessee has had retention problems. It's been a horrible program and just been in a state of chaos since kiffin rolled into town and fricked shite up.
So what you are saying is that having highly rated classes doesnt neccessarily equate to success on the field. AGREED!
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You surely wouldn't bitch about having georgia's success vs our would you?
I sure didn't mind Petrino's success either.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:11 pm to DaleDenton
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Texas recruits are over rated, the money needs to be spent in Florida.
Player development in Texas is underrated not the athletes in my opinion. Also, if Coach B thinks it's all in Florida when spend all the AD money in Texas?
You think because we got 5 players from Florida yet had the same ranked classes as Nutt and Petrino it will make us that much better? You'll reference the competition those kids face in high-school, fine. They might have a slightly better upside but still doesn't prove much of anything to me.
Coach B ran his mouth on twitter, history of talking down to the SEC, talked up a massive Texas campaign push, needed much more assistant money, a head scratching DC hire and especially at the timing when only one 4* Defensive players signed all while sitting in a $41M facility. I am still in his corner as he is our coach but I like anyone else who buys merchandise, tickets or donates can bitch.
I am unimpressed.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:12 pm to The_Joker
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I'm still waiting for his explanation of Michigan State's success with "Nutt recruiting"
It is called a redshirt program.
Something no one wants to hear, because that takes time to implement and "takes time" isn't something that is popular since the invention of the microwave.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:13 pm to Russvegas Dan
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Russell Wilson
@DangeRussWilson
The 2012 @seahawks draft class. They graded us as an F. Now we are World Champs! #GodisGood #GoHawks
More experts. They should have stuck to using stars instead of grades. Those are always right.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:14 pm to SunHog
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I am unimpressed.
You should write them a strongly worded letter.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:15 pm to Russvegas Dan
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So its better, but its not betterer enough.
After a national embarassment..
Followed with SMILE...
and an 0-8 season...
So yes, its true, we did not suddenly transform into Alabama.
I'm the on that told all you knuckleheads the Petrino issue was coming down the road with his bad recruiting.
We won't ever transform into Alabama, almost no one will except for UGA if they got their act together.
Why do you chalk this class up as a good class?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:15 pm to SunHog
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the same ranked classes as Nutt and Petrino
We have the benefit of being able to go back and see how good those classes really were.
I'm sure Darius Winston gave a nice boost to the class ranking, but he never amounted to jack shite.
Also, if kickers were rated the same way as other players, Hedlund would be a high 4 star and perhaps a 5 star. That alone would put us in the top 20 this year.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:16 pm to Russvegas Dan
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You should write them a strongly worded letter.
I'll tell someone in person on year three if all stays the same. Your suggestion isn't a bad one when you back it up with much less money and also aren't the only one doing it.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:18 pm to DaleDenton
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It is called a redshirt program.
Something no one wants to hear, because that takes time to implement and "takes time" isn't something that is popular since the invention of the microwave.
You know how you buy yourself time as a coach?
Market the redshirt program to the entire fan base not just in the paper. I'm talking a full on program state wide with billboards etc.
I'm all for a walk-on and redshirt program.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:18 pm to SunHog
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Player development in Texas is underrated not the athletes in my opinion.
You talk about the need for "impact defensive players" then talk about getting these players from Texas?
Have you not seen Texas, aTm, Baylor, and OU attempt to play defense over the past decade? Those programs have been getting the best Texas has to offer.
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Also, if Coach B thinks it's all in Florida when spend all the AD money in Texas?
Do you think stAte placed an athletic billboard in Fayetteville to attract athletes from NWA?
It works two fold, sure it draws attention to the athletic program, but it is more effective in drawing the interest of prospective students than student athletes...
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:19 pm to Russvegas Dan
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Thats... good for them? I guess? Really puts a cap in their hat over the 0-8 team.
you mean 1-7. guess who they beat by 20.
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So what you are saying is that having highly rated classes doesnt neccessarily equate to success on the field. AGREED!
doesn't always and player development is important for maintaining success but we don't get some bullshite layup schedule most of the year. We open with the defending SEC champs and then go on to face Bama, LSU, and the defending East division champs.
We're gonna get skull fricked again.
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I sure didn't mind Petrino's success either.
Petrino is an offensive Genius. Bielemma is a good CEO coach he isn't a genius defensive or offensive coach. He's a good defensive coach but most of his fame has been from laying offensive beatdowns on people and he isn't even an offensive coach by trade.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:22 pm to SunHog
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Why do you chalk this class up as a good class?
I think its a solid class that fits a lot of needs and lays more groundwork for the future. I think several of these guys will give us immediate results mixed in with some high potential red shirts. It looks like a high character bunch of kids. I trust our staffs ability to judge a guys ability to contribute to our program after more than a year of research more than some random guys on the internet watching highlight film making snap judgements.
Example: Wary was given a 90 rating on 247 after a single tape was sent in by Otis on the same afternoon it was submitted.
ETA: I dont blindly trust our staff because its OUR staff. I trust them because of their individual football backgrounds, and they have shown that they know how to win.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:23 pm to SunHog
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Market the redshirt program to the entire fan base not just in the paper. I'm talking a full on program state wide with billboards etc.
I'm all for a walk-on and redshirt program.
Because talking about it in the media, then redshirting the majority of the first class. Then the next year talk about how you plan on playing around the same amount as the first with the rest redshirting isn't enough?
Billboards have to be purchased to educate the fanbase?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 6:25 pm to DaleDenton
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Billboards have to be purchased to educate the fanbase?
we've been relegated to mississippi state status after this recruiting class.
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