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re: so, one of two things will happen with CBB now...

Posted on 9/12/17 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 4:15 pm to
I don't want it to get better. I want it to get so bad that Long's dumbass digs into his own pocket to pay for that sack of shite's buyout.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 5:15 pm to
Each and every time Deon Stewart has been our kick returner, I've been scared of fumbles. I can remember 2 now. One last year and one this year. MAYBE the guy can function as a WR. But WHY the frick would you put a toothpick in a position that tends to receive quite a few violent collisions?
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:02 pm to
This is probably the biggest head scratcher to me too. I don't think there's been a year that Bielema's been here that I haven't questioned his selection for KOR but this one blows all other years of the water. The kid is a toothpick and looks like he's going to be decapitated every time he's hit on a return. There is a number of guys I would put there over him.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:04 pm to
He also looks slow as Bert on KOR. He looks scared. Its because he is 150 and knows he is about to get killed.
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:22 pm to
Bama will break him in half.

Another WTF decision by fat arse

Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:30 pm to
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I don't think we are that far off from 8-9 consistently. 10(83% win %) however is something we've never done consistently and we just so happen to be in the hardest conference we've been in, in our history.


Bert has done a pretty terrible job, and he's unquestionably the worst second half coach I've ever seen. BUT, he arguably should've won 9 in 2014, 10 in 2015, and 9 last year.

The fact that Bert should've won 28 over the last three years coupled with the fact that Nutt won 9+ four times tells me that it's not mission impossible to be competitive and win big here.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:34 pm to
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This is probably the biggest head scratcher to me too. I don't think there's been a year that Bielema's been here that I haven't questioned his selection for KOR but this one blows all other years of the water. The kid is a toothpick and looks like he's going to be decapitated every time he's hit on a return. There is a number of guys I would put there over him.


Not necessarily applicable to the KOR discussion, but Stewart body catches more than any reciver I've ever seen.

That TD catch he had against FAMU was ugly as ugly gets, and he looked like he'd just been punched in the gut and weirdly fell down despite the ball being right on target.
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 6:39 pm to
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he's unquestionably the worst second half coach I've ever seen


A lot of the blame must be laid at the feet of Dan Enos, since he's responsible for making 2nd half adjustments.

Fat arse isn't telling Dan, you can't run this play or that play.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:31 pm to
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Bert has done a pretty terrible job, and he's unquestionably the worst second half coach I've ever seen. BUT, he arguably should've won 9 in 2014, 10 in 2015, and 9 last year.



He's literally underachieved in every season here, even 2013. He's also provided some sort of embarrassing loss during every season of his tenure. He's set records for ineptitude. Remember when we blew a huge lead in the second half to Rutgers which began a nine game losing streak?
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 7:44 pm to
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Fat arse isn't telling Dan, you can't run this play or that play.


In the past, he's been accused of doing exactly that. It's what allegedly lead to the rift between him and Matt Canada. Also, we've had trouble scoring in the second half under two different OCs now...
Posted by Rzrbackguy
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:06 pm to
We aren't firing a coach mid season so all that talk is pre-mature. We do seem to be pushing kids to go to class and running a pretty clean program. All the off the field stuff seems pretty good.

These are facts about the on the field stuff however:

Our special teams play is atrocious. Horrible. As bad as anyone anywhere. This is a trend that's getting worse. Can't kick off, can't return, no FG kicker, punter isn't good...just really nothing good about special teams play.

The offense is just lost. I think its the philosophical mismatch between CBB and Enos. We're kinda lousy at both of their styles trying to meet in the middle.

Defensively we're thin and average. Nothing spectacular at all. Last year we were terrible, we've upgraded to bad.

Fanbase is now starting to turn. Patience is gone. It won't take much bad to unleash the boobirds and send some of our 'better' fans looking for the tow plane's phone number. It could get real ugly real fast.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:11 pm to
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It's what allegedly lead to the rift between him and Matt Canada.


Matt Canada was coming from being a spread OC at NIU to running smash mouth Wisconsin ball. He was a way outside the box hire for what they did in the past. It shouldn't have surprised anyone that they clashed. Enos is almost the direct opposite though and is more of a natural fit for what we want to do.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:17 pm to
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In the past, he's been accused of doing exactly that. It's what allegedly lead to the rift between him and Matt Canada. Also, we've had trouble scoring in the second half under two different OCs now...


This. Enos ran a more wide open pro style at CMU. Us not being creative in the redzone is Bert Demanding we "stick to our DNA"

Against Texas tech in 2014 Chaney even let it slip that Bert over rided him after the double reverse play, and was told to only call run plays, and would override any pass play he tried to call.

This shite show is bert's stubbornness destroying us.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 8:18 pm
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:18 pm to
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Enos is almost the direct opposite though and is more of a natural fit for what we want to do.


And yet after the Auburn game, things went south. Offensive game plan and execution.

Maybe they shake off the funk or correct the problems and win in Arlington
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:39 am to
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Defensively we're thin and average. Nothing spectacular at all. Last year we were terrible, we've upgraded to bad
i think this is something people are overlooking because of how awful our offense performed. Our pass d is decent I believe but we get no pressure on the qb and can't stop the run to save our lives. Alabama will put up north of 300 yards rushing on us guaranteed
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:49 am to
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we get no pressure on the qb and can't stop the run to save our lives. Alabama will put up north of 300 yards rushing on us guaranteed


Agreed. TCU could have scored more but they didn't have to. They just bled us with 3rd down conversion after 3rd down conversion.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12417 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Against Texas tech in 2014 Chaney even let it slip that Bert over rided him after the double reverse play, and was told to only call run plays, and would override any pass play he tried to call.


In Bert's defense (something you won't ever hear me say), Chaney was being cute and stupid in the first half of that game before Bert laid the law down at halftime.

They couldn't stop our running game between the tackles, literally could not tackle Williams or Collins on first contact, and we were running for 8 to 9 yards a clip. Chaney ran that stupid end-around, which Hatcher fumbled, and cost us points. We came out in the second half and ran the ball down their throats and played keep-away.

People forget that we were only up by 7 at halftime and that it was a very loseable game at that point, the kind which Chaney always fricked up.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12417 posts
Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:28 pm to
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He's literally underachieved in every season here, even 2013. He's also provided some sort of embarrassing loss during every season of his tenure. He's set records for ineptitude. Remember when we blew a huge lead in the second half to Rutgers which began a nine game losing streak?


That's my point. An even half decent coach wins 28 (or more) games the last three years.

My point was that is proof enough that it's not this impossible goal to win 8/9/10 a year here like some people claim. If Bret Bielema can come a few boneheaded plays from doing it, and Houston Nutt did it, it doesn't take Nick Saban to make Arkansas competitive.

The biggest thing we need is a coach who can come in and change the attitude and mentality of this program, because right now it's loser mentality where we're smaller than the moment and fold like a bad poker hand the minute the tiniest thing goes wrong. It was one of the better things Petrino did when he came in, and it's been one of the worst transitions to the Bielema era. It's going to take a different coach to eradicate the stink of 0-8, 17 straight, umpteen collapses and second half 0-fers.

My biggest gripe with Bert is when things start going south, he's not out front leading and jerking a knot in people's chains, but rather standing there with that same bewildered, dumb look on his face to which we've all become accustomed to seeing. He should've been screaming at Allen, benching receivers, threatening to deport Froholdt and calling out Austin Cantcatch.
This post was edited on 9/13/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 12:47 pm to
Keep in mind that we could have scored more points too...
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 5:52 pm to
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Keep in mind that we could have scored more points too...


Yet we didn't because fat arse' "super tough, preeminently physical offensive line" couldn't punch the ball in from inside the five with multiple attempts on multiple occasions. Then, he blamed the kicker (the best of the shitty ones he recruited) for not getting points because he is a husky bitch.
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