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re: "Six Flags Over Jesus" sign posted on Cross Church Land - April Fools prank.

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Posted by Killean
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Member since Nov 2010
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Polytheism and Animism largely came into existence as a way of explaining how the world works. Monotheism came into existence as a way of centralizing the power that had grown up around religion.

Science now actively works to explain how the world works thus coming into direct conflict with religion. This is sad because science is really the ultimate expression of religion. If there actually was a single omnipotent being, then Physics is what would paint the picture of it.


Given how our universe is, the idea of a single omnipotent, omnipresent being is rather ludicrous. Now, the existence of beings that we would consider godlike is probably a certainty.. we just may never encounter them.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Tbh, most people probably don't understand the mathematics of really large numbers.
I agree. One of my degrees is in physics, so I'm very adept at working with large numbers and dealing with statistics. I also have very strong backgrounds in biology, evolution, and archaeology. I took an unusual path through academics toward my current career, and learned a lot of things that shaped my view of the world. Statistical arguments against abiogenesis and evolution really do not work when you examine them closely.

I have found no good reason to believe in a higher power, despite having been religiously faithful when I was younger.

Many people find reasons to believe, and that's perfectly fine with me. I tend not to challenge people about their beliefs unless I feel I have reason to do so--like they challenge my lack of faith, or they try to justify the limitation of the rights and liberties of others through legislation. Based on my conversations with religious people I know well, the most convincing and unassailable reasons for believing are deeply personal. It's possible to articulate your experiences and reasons for believing, but it's rarely convincing to someone who hasn't shared that experience. Anyway, this is why I usually don't get deep into debates regarding religion anymore. I can take apart logical/scientific arguments for believing, but eventually it all boils down to personal experience. One cannot argue with that, although one can be very skeptical. It's a personal thing, at the end of the day.
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Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:11 am to
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Science now actively works to explain how the world works thus coming into direct conflict with religion


I think this is the problem with a lot of Christians. Science and Christianity do not have to be mutually exclusive, but a lot of people get so hung up on things that don't matter in the grand scheme of things. If you believe in what Jesus taught then you should worry about loving others and showing that in your actions and stop arguing about how old the earth is or something. I feel the same way when Christians argue about details in different denominations, who cares? You're supposed to have the same goal.

I will say that if it were just painfully obvious that there was a God then there would be no point or purpose in having faith and everyone would believe it
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