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Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:56 am to Razorback Reverend
Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:56 am to Razorback Reverend
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It amazes me how many folks discredit religion simply because of a few complete and utter douches.
A few?
Couple of billion people aren't a "few."
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:41 am to Razorback Reverend
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If non religious folks wouldn't use their positions in government to force their BS agendas on people ... etc. man..
Whoops, I see where you accidentally made a mistake here.
You thought the phrase "allow someone else to live their life" equaled "making me live my life that way too".
Allowing someone else to be gay does not equal forcing you to be gay. Now, if you choose to be gay, cool, more power to you, brother. However, how does that person living their life "force an agenda" on poor, unaffected you?
Do you also get offended if people choose to drink alcohol? We should probably ban it because your abstinence from the substance isn't enough, everyone should live like you.
Why not just live your life the way you want? If you think you'll pass the interview at the Pearly Gates by listing all the things you abstained from, then why do you care if someone else lives their life differently?
I'll never understand how letting someone else alone is equal to "oppressing you with their agenda".
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:01 pm to Kilgore Snout
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Whoops, I see where you accidentally made a mistake here.
No mistake made, you helped me to prove a point. I don't go around forcing my beliefs on anyone.
The way others are supposed to come to know what I believe is through my actions, reactions to others. I don't picket, throw shade constantly, nor holler insults . In stead I attempt to be as Christ was.
But others should force things on Christians as well. I believe it works both ways.
But... Carry on...
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:14 pm to Razorback Reverend
It's truly a crime to have a government force religious groups to treat people equally.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:18 pm to Razorback Reverend
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In stead I attempt to be as Christ was.
Jewish?
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:36 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I don't go around forcing my beliefs on anyone.
I will remember that when I try to buy a beer on Sunday.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:55 pm to Razorback Reverend
Ha. You truly believe that "allowing someone else to live their own life" is "forcing their beliefs on you"?
Nice mental gymnastics.
Nice mental gymnastics.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:03 pm to Kilgore Snout
couple questions
do liberals force their opinions on others?
do conservatives force their opinions on others?
do liberals force their opinions on others?
do conservatives force their opinions on others?
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:19 pm to hawgfaninc
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couple questions do liberals force their opinions on others? do conservatives force their opinions on others?
THIS....
Again, I don't force my opinions or beliefs on anyone. Let me ask you a quick question please...
What good does it do me, or My God to force another person to accept him? THat is religious slavery. I don't want you or anyone to not have the personal freedom to make that choice his/her self.
I believe in Baptism, but me grabbing someone, dunking them and holding them under does nothing for either of us... Unless we need a bath
as for a beer on Sunday. Come on over.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:21 pm to hawgfaninc
BTW if you are trying to pick a personal religious fight with me... Nothing to fight about.
Live as you wish, I will as well. But I can also hope/pray for anyone I wish and attempt to live my life in such a way that others will see a positive in me that leads to Christ.
Will it work? For some yes, others... notta.
But if I don't try then I am a complete and utter hypocrite...
Live as you wish, I will as well. But I can also hope/pray for anyone I wish and attempt to live my life in such a way that others will see a positive in me that leads to Christ.
Will it work? For some yes, others... notta.
But if I don't try then I am a complete and utter hypocrite...
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:56 pm to Razorback Reverend
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Live as you wish, I will as well. But I can also hope/pray for anyone I wish and attempt to live my life in such a way that others will see a positive in me that leads to Christ.
So using this, how does allowing a gay person to be gay and live a normal life that way "force the gay agenda" on you? Or letting someone buy and drink beer 7 days a week? Or smoke some weed? Or any of the other things that are apparently being forced upon you? And can you point me to where these agendas are filed so I can read them?
Do you really believe that if "they" had it "their way" they would force you to be a weed smoking, beer drinking gay person? Or work on the Sabbath or something?
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:59 pm to hawgfaninc
I have no clue. I'm a conservative libertarian committed to the values of liberalism that just wants to be left alone. I also don't believe there's a quiz waiting for me the minute I die.
Although I have heard multiple Republican politicians in this election cycle mention various freedoms they want to remove from others. And that concerns me. It concerns me a lot.
And for some reason, all of my pastor friends on Facebook are constantly sharing political posts and calling for the removal of freedoms of others. I don't know why a pastor would be making political commentary to the masses, that doesn't seem to be a responsible use of their position.
Although I have heard multiple Republican politicians in this election cycle mention various freedoms they want to remove from others. And that concerns me. It concerns me a lot.
And for some reason, all of my pastor friends on Facebook are constantly sharing political posts and calling for the removal of freedoms of others. I don't know why a pastor would be making political commentary to the masses, that doesn't seem to be a responsible use of their position.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 4:44 pm to Kilgore Snout
Well mr Snout... You and I would agree on more than you could possibly believe.
I wrote the things on the 1st page of the thread in much jest, not completely, but much as was included the
Yes, I think homosexuality is wrong... However it is not my place to stop it but in stead try to live a life and teach what I believe to those who would listen.
I don't have a problem with Beer on sunday, or if MJ is made legal with prescription, etc...
As long as abuse isn't causing more problems for some of these folks.
And one more thing. I will never preach against being an abuser of alcohol without adding there are many more abusing food period. Obesity is a much bigger epidemic in our nation. and both are a sin in my beliefs.
The alcohol isn't the sin, the abuse of it as with anything is...
And anyone using God for only political gain is in for a "Helluva" surprise at judgment day imho.
I wrote the things on the 1st page of the thread in much jest, not completely, but much as was included the
Yes, I think homosexuality is wrong... However it is not my place to stop it but in stead try to live a life and teach what I believe to those who would listen.
I don't have a problem with Beer on sunday, or if MJ is made legal with prescription, etc...
As long as abuse isn't causing more problems for some of these folks.
And one more thing. I will never preach against being an abuser of alcohol without adding there are many more abusing food period. Obesity is a much bigger epidemic in our nation. and both are a sin in my beliefs.
The alcohol isn't the sin, the abuse of it as with anything is...
And anyone using God for only political gain is in for a "Helluva" surprise at judgment day imho.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 5:05 pm to Razorback Reverend
Are we arguing the state making it to where churches will have to by law marry homosexuals? Good luck with that, whoever is on the pro side.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 5:22 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I don't have a problem with Beer on sunday, or if MJ is made legal with prescription, etc...
But this is one of the things I don't understand. How could you say the second half of your sentence, without including "or if MJ AND BEERare made legal with prescription..."
Why would you ever want prescriptions for marijuana and not prescriptions for alcohol.
We have all personally known more people killed by alcohol than we know of people killed by MJ. We have all known more people who become more violent on alcohol than on MJ. I believe the stat is 10,000:1 or something of cases of domestic violence involving alcohol vs domestic violence involving MJ.
So what is it that you disagree with about MJ that you also don't disagree with for alcohol? It seems, objectively, that if one of them should be legal then it should be marijuana and not alcohol.
This coming from someone who has never used MJ or any drug and abstains from alcohol.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 6:36 pm to Kilgore Snout
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You truly believe that "allowing someone else to live their own life" is "forcing their beliefs on you"?
I don't care what anyone does with their life as long as they stay out of mine. With that said, trying to force a belief was exactly what what was happening when people were protesting Chick fil A. Dan Cathy was asked a question and gave an honest answer. He wasn't hateful in the least and the SJW's heads nearly exploded.
There are people on both sides that try to force their beliefs on others and neither is in the right.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:09 pm to Raz4back
quote:It wasn't just what he said, it's that Chik-Fil-A gives a lot of money to anti-LGBT efforts. That makes a boycott pretty fair game.
I don't care what anyone does with their life as long as they stay out of mine. With that said, trying to force a belief was exactly what what was happening when people were protesting Chick fil A. Dan Cathy was asked a question and gave an honest answer. He wasn't hateful in the least and the SJW's heads nearly exploded.
There are people on both sides that try to force their beliefs on others and neither is in the right.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:49 pm to Hog on the Hill
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wasn't just what he said, it's that Chik-Fil-A gives a lot of money to anti-LGBT efforts. That makes a boycott pretty fair game.
Nobody was protesting until what he said went public.
Boycotts are fine, trying to remove stores from campuses and trying to keep the company from opening new stores is over the top considering the company never discriminated against any employee.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 7:58 pm to Raz4back
quote:Yeah, weird how public comments can suddenly draw attention to the things your company is doing with its money. I think it's silly that you're trying to use his comments as the sole cause of the boycott when that is patently not the case.
Nobody was protesting until what he said went public.
Boycotts are fine, trying to remove stores from campuses and trying to keep the company from opening new stores is over the top considering the company never discriminated against any employee.
A boycott is a boycott--it's meant to hurt a company's business. Trying to stop them from opening new stores seems appropriate for a boycott
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:36 pm to Hog on the Hill
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Trying to stop them from opening new stores seems appropriate for a boycott
Appropriate for city mayors? The ACLU disagreed.
Thomas Menino and Rahm Emanuel both cited his comments as the reason that they wanted to block new Chick-fil-A restaurants.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 9:03 pm
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