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re: "Six Flags Over Jesus" sign posted on Cross Church Land - April Fools prank.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:44 pm to Raz4back
Posted on 4/3/16 at 8:44 pm to Raz4back
quote:In principle there's nothing wrong with people trying to keep Chik-fil-As from opening in their communities, but naturally people who are in positions of power should not abuse their authority.
Appropriate for city mayors? The ACLU disagreed
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 9:32 pm to Hog on the Hill
It's interesting how conservative advocates complain about "sjw" protests and boycotts of things. It's almost like they don't actually believe in the invisible hand of the free market
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:06 pm to hogfly
I don't care about boycotts. Protests don't bother me either, provided the protesters aren't infringing on the rights of others.
My point was that it's hypocritical to call out extremists on one side while ignoring them on the other. There are plenty of evangelicals that are intolerant of people with different views. There are also plenty of extreme left wingers that are also intolerant.
There are plenty of us that live our lives with "conservative" values that don't care what other people do. I don't care if you are gay, smoke pot all day, stay drunk all day, cheat on your wife, etc. If you don't make it my business I won't either.
My point was that it's hypocritical to call out extremists on one side while ignoring them on the other. There are plenty of evangelicals that are intolerant of people with different views. There are also plenty of extreme left wingers that are also intolerant.
There are plenty of us that live our lives with "conservative" values that don't care what other people do. I don't care if you are gay, smoke pot all day, stay drunk all day, cheat on your wife, etc. If you don't make it my business I won't either.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:09 pm to Raz4back
quote:Boycotting a company that donates large amounts of money to anti-LGBT organizations is "extreme"?
I don't give a shite about boycotts. Protests don't bother me either, provided the protesters aren't infringing on the rights of others.
My point was that it's hypocritical to call out extremists on one side while ignoring them on the other. There are plenty of evangelicals that are intolerant of people with different views. There are also plenty of extreme left wingers that are also intolerant.
edit: I can't figure out what you're talking about because nothing you've mentioned so far seems particularly extreme.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:13 pm to Hog on the Hill
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Boycotting a company that donates large amounts of money to anti-LGBT organizations is "extreme"?
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I don't care about boycotts
Mayors of cities trying to keep a business out because of something the owner said is extreme. When the ACLU sides with a southern baptist that closes his restaurant on Sundays I'd say the other side is extreme.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:20 pm to Raz4back
quote:Were those efforts to keep Chik-fil-A out of the cities ever more than token pledges? I know several mayors talked about it, but I don't remember any real fights over it.
Mayors of cities trying to keep a business out because of something the owner said is extreme. When the ACLU sides with a southern baptist that closes his restaurant on Sundays I'd say the other side is extreme.
I know conservatives like to act like the ACLU is partisan, but it's really not. I think they do a good job advocating for everyone's civil liberties, regardless of partisanship.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:29 pm to Hog on the Hill
They really couldn't stop them since it would be a clear violation of Cathy's first amendment rights.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:37 pm to Raz4back
I guess I just don't find it particularly extreme for a mayor of a major city to say that a businesses with such practices is unwelcome in the city, but then never following through. Seems like politicians being politicians to me.
If their positions were truly extreme, wouldn't they have actually fought to block the franchises?
If their positions were truly extreme, wouldn't they have actually fought to block the franchises?
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:40 pm to Kilgore Snout
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But this is one of the things I don't understand. How could you say the second half of your sentence, without including "or if MJ AND BEERare made legal with prescription..." Why would you ever want prescriptions for marijuana and not prescriptions for alcohol. We have all personally known more people killed by alcohol than we know of people killed by MJ. We have all known more people who become more violent on alcohol than on MJ. I believe the stat is 10,000:1 or something of cases of domestic violence involving alcohol vs domestic violence involving MJ. So what is it that you disagree with about MJ that you also don't disagree with for alcohol? It seems, objectively, that if one of them should be legal then it should be marijuana and not alcohol. This coming from someone who has never used MJ or any drug and abstains from alcohol.
One of the tenets of the Christian faith is to attempt to follow the laws of the land...
As long as they do not violate scripture. Therefore for me personally, it needs to be legal.
But then again, I have a little more experience with the drug culture than many. I did inner city ministry dealing with gangs/Drugs for several years. What was mixed with so much of that MJ, Ganga, Mary Jane, Helio 7, the way they began to be messed with genetically. One mans pot wasn't anothers, that is for sure.
Some of it was so strong, it was incredible how much damage they could do.
And it is the abuse of alcohol that is the problem once more.
and food, etal..
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:47 pm to Razorback Reverend
I just think if it could get to the point that non-believers start being only half as pro-active as believers and start voicing their opinions over radio, TV, internet, face to face,
I think it's going to take the sails out of organized religion in this country and relegate it to the uneducated savages in the Middle East and Africa where it belongs.
This is the 21st century for crying out loud. The intimidation factor that christians have enjoyed in the bible belt is starting to crumble a bit.
I think it's going to take the sails out of organized religion in this country and relegate it to the uneducated savages in the Middle East and Africa where it belongs.
This is the 21st century for crying out loud. The intimidation factor that christians have enjoyed in the bible belt is starting to crumble a bit.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 8:03 am to PygmalionEffect
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The intimidation factor that christians have enjoyed in the bible belt is starting to crumble a bit.
"If someone allows themselves to be intimidated, it is not the intimidating party's fault, its the weak mind of the intimidated." ~ Pigfeet
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:33 am to Pigfeet
nice quote 
i say live and let live, believe or not, it's your choice, your personal personals. i do believe in god, i don't care if some say that makes me a mindless sheep. maybe i like to bahhhh... ~ piggilicious
i say live and let live, believe or not, it's your choice, your personal personals. i do believe in god, i don't care if some say that makes me a mindless sheep. maybe i like to bahhhh... ~ piggilicious
Posted on 4/4/16 at 9:59 am to Numberwang
I'm not reading this thread because it's about as predictable as a fricking Tyson chicken thread, but the sign was genius and hilarious.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:10 am to BarkRuffalo
I love how the "non-religious" accuse the religious of trying to manipulate the government. What exactly do you think liberals have been doing? That the religious establishment would try to do the same suddenly makes us wrong? yeah that makes sense.......
People have been trying to influence government since the inception of government.... that hasn't and will never change, everyone has an agenda.
BTW.... notice that it is science that spends it's time trying to prove Christianity wrong and not vice versa?
......wonder what that's about....?
People have been trying to influence government since the inception of government.... that hasn't and will never change, everyone has an agenda.
BTW.... notice that it is science that spends it's time trying to prove Christianity wrong and not vice versa?
......wonder what that's about....?
Posted on 4/4/16 at 10:44 am to ElDawgHawg
quote:This is not true.
BTW.... notice that it is science that spends it's time trying to prove Christianity wrong and not vice versa?
......wonder what that's about....?
edit: and actually, some Biblical literalists do spend their time trying to prove science wrong. It's called young earth creationism and they tried rewriting state laws and science textbooks to fit their anti-science agenda. A landmark Supreme Court case actually came out of Arkansas. See Epperson v. Arkansas LINK
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 10:48 am
Posted on 4/4/16 at 11:31 am to BarkRuffalo
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Tyson chicken thread
Someone is still "Triggered"
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:48 pm to Pigfeet
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Someone is still "Triggered"
Triggered? I literally laugh every time I saw a thread. That was some fantastic trolling.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:52 pm to BarkRuffalo
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Triggered? I literally laugh every time I saw a thread. That was some fantastic trolling.
Oh,
and those were serious topics to help save lives.This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 4/4/16 at 5:52 pm to PygmalionEffect
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I think it's going to take the sails out of organized religion in this country and relegate it to the uneducated savages in the Middle East and Africa where it belongs.
Probably a little harsh.
Everyone could worship or not worship as they pleased if we could just keep religion out of politics.
A 7th Day Adventist came to my door unsolicited this weekend and we had a nice hour long discussion about it. According to this guy they are big on free will and choice and have a strong belief in separation of church and state. Can anyone here confirm?
If true, I guess I learned that not all door to door missionaries are the same. He said Jehovah Witness is the worst, in that it is against their rules to even listen to anything contrary to their believe system. Maybe they don't go door to door, but I'll be ready for them now if they do.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 6:59 pm to PygmalionEffect
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