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re: NWA People: Are we in a boom?

Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:54 pm to


Got a skyline to show me? Got a city park with any water in it? Murphy Park in Springdale has a decent little lagoon, but that means you have to go to public place in a gang war zone.

I'll take some photos the next couple weeks that will be right next to or very close to the same points and places next to what you posted. There are some embarassing eyesores up here.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15337 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:03 pm to
I guess I'm going to have to point out that most cities with 77,000 people do not have skylines. Especially when they are built on hills. Move to Dallas if you want skyscrapers

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

Got a skyline to show me? Got a city park with any water in it? Murphy Park in Springdale has a decent little lagoon, but that means you have to go to public place in a gang war zone.


Wow.

Ever heard of Lake Atalanta? Lake Fayetteville? Lake Wilson? Lake Sequoyah? Hell, Siloam has a whitewater park right outside of town and a creek park right through the heart of town.

No, most cities of 80k or less (which is actually all of NWA) don't have skylines. Guess what? You can live in Dallas with a nice view of the skyline, but you are also surrounded by an actual gang warzone on most sides. A real one, not a poser one. Also, if you have kids, I hope you make at minimum $300k per year or up, otherwise you won't be able to afford that home, with the skyline view, and the private schools you'll have to send them to.

You'd wind up like most of the rest of the poor bastards down there, commuting an hour each way, living in some generic subdivision, house on top of house, 3 hours from anything remotely resembling a decent "natural area" with any kind of beauty worth even snapping a photo of.

I get the feeling you haven't spent a lot of time in other places aside from weekends, hitting the high points. Commensurate to their sizes, Fayetteville, Rogers and Bentonville all have a high percentage of "nice areas" compared to most places other than the really high-end cities in the country.

You can spend $2million on a row home in San Francisco and walk outside and find human feces on your block most days of the week.

NWA is nice. I live here on purpose.

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

Move to Dallas if you want skyscrapers


Fayetteville has an 18 story max in the highest density zonings anyway. Ain't ever gonna have a big skyline. Big skylines don't do anything for quality of life. Good density in the 3-6 story range with housing mixed in with commercial is what creates interesting places. Places you want to walk around and experience life.

We're building stuff like that all over town right now, in every ward, except maybe west Fayetteville.
Posted by I Ham That I Ham
Oh Lord, it's hard to be humble
Member since Jan 2012
10773 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 7:11 pm to
CtotheV, aren't you living in and/or from Oklahoma?
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4640 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:07 am to
So much fail.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Fayetteville has an 18 story max in the highest density zonings anyway. Ain't ever gonna have a big skyline. Big skylines don't do anything for quality of life. Good density in the 3-6 story range with housing mixed in with commercial is what creates interesting places. Places you want to walk around and experience life.

We're building stuff like that all over town right now, in every ward, except maybe west Fayetteville.
Yeah, the vast majority of NYC is 3-6 story buildings. Manhattan is built up a lot, and there's downtown Brooklyn and some of the waterfront along the East River that's high rise, but almost everything else is 3-6 stories. High rises in Manhattan are for office space and residents, not anything fun. My favorite areas to hang out in Manhattan are dominated by 3-6 story buildings (West Village, East Village, SoHo).
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 8:46 am
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:06 pm to
I'm in NWA. From an old line Ozarks family that started churches in the hills in the 1820's.

I know it's an apples to oranges comparison and having grown up here I surely don't appreciate it like others may.

I just found other areas to be more inspiring for my creativity. I love the forests here but the Redwood forests are tremendous. A sunset on the Oklahoma plains is something we'll never get here because of the hills. The smell of the ocean in the morning is replaced by days of chicken manure spreading here.

Massive Fields of crops in the Central Valley or on Oceanside farms we'll never get in NWA. The buzz of a downtown bristling w/ go-getters we don't have here. The parks here are ok but they certainly don't inspire art. We have very few landmarks for people to identify with.

Just doesn't float my boat.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

I just found other areas to be more inspiring for my creativity. I love the forests here but the Redwood forests are tremendous. A sunset on the Oklahoma plains is something we'll never get here because of the hills. The smell of the ocean in the morning is replaced by days of chicken manure spreading here.


We realize you've taken these close loses pretty hard, but my goodness, might be time to adjust your dosage.

You just need to move to the beachfront in Oklahoma, backed up to some Redwood trees.
This post was edited on 10/19/15 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15337 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 1:53 pm to
That's fine, to each their own
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 10/19/15 at 2:34 pm to
No shite. I'm hating on errythang.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 10/24/15 at 7:55 pm to
ya know those Oklahoma sunsets I was talking about...

Stillwater tonight





Posted by Bear-O-Dactyl
tRock
Member since Oct 2012
1171 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:12 am to
quote:

ya know those Oklahoma sunsets I was talking about...


Little Rock sunsets > Oklahoma sunsets.
This post was edited on 10/25/15 at 11:13 am
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4640 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:36 am to
Ahhhh yes. If only NWA could match the majestic beauty of.... Stillwater.
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3903 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:37 am to
quote:

I love the forests here but the Redwood forests are tremendous.


OK, that's pretty fair. Redwood is a majestic wonder to behold.

quote:

A sunset on the Oklahoma plains is something we'll never get here because of the hills.


Yeah, and living in Oklahoma is something we also don't get to experience here, so I say we come out on top.

The sunset on top of Mt. Sequoyah HAS to rival that. I've lived in the River Valley, right across the border from OK in Crawford county. The flatlands were nothing special. There's a reason calling something "flat" usually has negative connotations.

quote:

The smell of the ocean in the morning is replaced by days of chicken manure spreading here.


I've never smelled this outside of Springdale, but we all know Springdale is the red-headed stepchild of NWA. But I concede that we really can't compete with the ocean.

quote:

Massive Fields of crops in the Central Valley or on Oceanside farms we'll never get in NWA.


If you're complaining there aren't enough fields of corn to look at, I guess you're just sick of NWA and enjoy the change of scenery. I can certainly understand that. But "over there" doesn't generally offer something substantial that "right here" doesn't, rolling plains and fields of barley included.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15337 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:37 am to
Emma in Springdale is finna blow up
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3903 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 11:40 am to
quote:

NWA is nice. I live here on purpose.


Such simple elegance and truth in this quote. Northwest Arkansas isn't really Arkansas, to be honest. This place rules.
Posted by jdevers
Member since Nov 2008
2059 posts
Posted on 10/25/15 at 5:58 pm to
I live on the northern edge of Farmington and that is almost exactly what the sunset looked like from my house last night.

I love living here, my only gripe is the pay scale hasn't quite caught up with some of the surrounding urban areas. I would make about 50% more in Houston and 30% more in Kansas City, but I like it here enough and don't really know how far out I would have to live to be able to afford the 4 acres of flat land I have.

The schools also are OK, but could be better for sure.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:46 am to
Direct flights to San Francisco from XNA started this week. Makes sense with the WM-silicon valley connection as Walmart.com ramps up.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 10/28/15 at 8:53 am to
October sunsets are the best regardless of location.
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