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NWA People: Are we in a boom?
Posted on 8/14/15 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 8/14/15 at 7:27 pm
Yes or No?
All statistics coming point to yes, but we are either growing as fast as I've ever experienced it, or we've reached a critical mass of traffic clusterfrickage.
I'm posting this on the eve of the main move-in at U of A. Apart from Dickson St being slightly less crazy, this summer didn't really feel like Fayetteville "let up" in any way. Restaurants seem packed (the ones which aren't utter shite, and even some of those). I'm tired of waiting in lines and fighting for parking.
Every town has stupid traffic right now and construction is happening about like it did back in 2001-2006.
All statistics coming point to yes, but we are either growing as fast as I've ever experienced it, or we've reached a critical mass of traffic clusterfrickage.
I'm posting this on the eve of the main move-in at U of A. Apart from Dickson St being slightly less crazy, this summer didn't really feel like Fayetteville "let up" in any way. Restaurants seem packed (the ones which aren't utter shite, and even some of those). I'm tired of waiting in lines and fighting for parking.
Every town has stupid traffic right now and construction is happening about like it did back in 2001-2006.
This post was edited on 8/14/15 at 7:29 pm
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 7:38 pm to wmr
Plus we got that NWA movie coming out...
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:05 pm to wmr
Eh, municipal construction is returning because of increased tax revenues
Residential construction is growing but it isn't going nuts...yet. Developers are filling in the halfway empty subdivisions left over from 2008 rather than platting new subdivisions
Residential construction is growing but it isn't going nuts...yet. Developers are filling in the halfway empty subdivisions left over from 2008 rather than platting new subdivisions
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:11 pm to Porker Face
Home sales are up nearly 14% over last year, for the first half of the year. Apartments are pretty danged full all over.
Benton & Washington County home sales up 13.69%
NWA apartment occupancy hits another record high for 2015.
Benton & Washington County home sales up 13.69%
NWA apartment occupancy hits another record high for 2015.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 8:53 pm to wmr
Not sure, but construction picked up everywhere a couple of years back, so I'm sure it did in NWA too.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:00 pm to wmr
I-49 construction is 10 yrs.behind
Commercial construction is making headway.
Residential is making progress.
Bella Vista Bypass has been started,
Don Tyson Pkwy. is moving in the right direction.
Things are looking up after the crash.
I'm busier than I've ever been.
Commercial construction is making headway.
Residential is making progress.
Bella Vista Bypass has been started,
Don Tyson Pkwy. is moving in the right direction.
Things are looking up after the crash.
I'm busier than I've ever been.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:07 pm to ArHog
Yeah, I'm having a hard time thinking of a town or area of the region that isn't under construction right now. From downtown Fayetteville all the way up to the Bentonville square.
Traffic is getting worse rapidly, it seems. And I'm becoming a grumpy old man.
Traffic is getting worse rapidly, it seems. And I'm becoming a grumpy old man.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 9:14 pm to wmr
102, 72, 45 and 16 has been a mess for years.
The roads were ill prepared for the last boom..
The roads were ill prepared for the last boom..
Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:04 pm to wmr
I heard Washington County is reassessing as much property as it can. Some people are seeing 400% increases
Gotta pay for all those bridges
Gotta pay for all those bridges
Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:32 pm to wmr
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we've reached a critical mass of traffic clusterfrickage.
This. Our leadership here is unable to plan 2 minutes ahead. Everything is always 10 years behind the need.
Lots of back room cronyism and taking care of their boys. Intelligent design and maximum usage is not even a thought.
It's almost criminal how bad 112 and the highways out to Wal Mart's Distribution Centers are. 112 needed to be a 2nd N/S throughfare through NWA, but the subdivisions were built so close to the road expansion is impossible.
Imminent domain should have been used and 112 should have been turned into a nice 4 lane straight shot. ditto on 102.
The bypass needed to have been 6 lanes 5 years ago.
265 is finally 4 lanes from Hwy 16 to mid Springdale.
This bike trail..... doesn't even connect the parks of our cities. Springdale was nice enough to put the trail through their shitty part of town where there's already been a couple stabbing attacks on bicyclists perpetrated by their minority populations. East of College Ave. isn't connected anywhere in Fayetteville, cutting Gulley Park out.
JB Hunt and Tyson corporate offices aren't connected to it either.
Bike Trail doesn't connect to Murphy Park in Springdale or Lowell's awesome city park that has the BMX track.
I just have zero faith in our local or national governments to not waste our money and efforts.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:39 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
I don't know about any of that. The Razorback Greenway is being hailed as a successful cooperative project among several cities and dozens of agencies (which normally don't play well together) and a great use of TIGER II discretionary funding
The project is being used as a model of cooperation
The project is being used as a model of cooperation
Posted on 8/15/15 at 12:50 pm to Porker Face
The Razorback Greenway is really just the rest of NWA catching up with Fayetteville's trail system. Springdale mostly sucks. I wonder how their downtown gentrification effort will go, since they are recently having lots of crime in the east side of the city.
Those Walton kids who are apparently putting money into downtown Springdale would be better off putting it into midtown or southside Fayetteville. Similar pricing on property, plus people already go there for food and entertainment.
Those Walton kids who are apparently putting money into downtown Springdale would be better off putting it into midtown or southside Fayetteville. Similar pricing on property, plus people already go there for food and entertainment.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 1:10 pm to wmr
I read that Springdale is considering a sculpture park in downtown springdale.
That article should be retitled as "Springdale considering a grafitti park downtown".
As soon as anything is installed it'll be targeted for gang tagging.
That article should be retitled as "Springdale considering a grafitti park downtown".
As soon as anything is installed it'll be targeted for gang tagging.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 3:05 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
NWA is now ranked by Nielsen as the 101st largest TV Market.
We've jumped about 7 spots in a couple years. So yea we're probably in a boom cycle, though it feels more like a natural growth since growth is what most of us have experienced here through our entire lives.
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We've jumped about 7 spots in a couple years. So yea we're probably in a boom cycle, though it feels more like a natural growth since growth is what most of us have experienced here through our entire lives.
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 4:32 pm to Porker Face
I have heard buzz about Tyson moving several hundred corporate positions onto Emma Ave. If that happens Sdale may explode
All I know now for sure is there are a lot of those white trucks parked all over downtown Sdale
All I know now for sure is there are a lot of those white trucks parked all over downtown Sdale
Posted on 8/15/15 at 4:44 pm to Porker Face
I believe Tyson bought the old western/clothing store on Emma. There was an article a couple months back on the jobs they were planning to move there.
There's some super cheap opportunities there. Springdale does have a sizable police force. IIRC it's almost double the size of Fayetteville's.
Nowhere is exactly easy to get to anymore. Even my roundabout to get past 6th st. traffic going around Baum is catching on w/ people and that 4 way stop is backing up regularly. (I take the right and cut across the Baum parking lot and come out the other side)
I pretty much refuse to take Walton to get anywhere in Bville and Bella Vista is just a no go zone unless you like traffic from sun up to sun down.
There's some super cheap opportunities there. Springdale does have a sizable police force. IIRC it's almost double the size of Fayetteville's.
Nowhere is exactly easy to get to anymore. Even my roundabout to get past 6th st. traffic going around Baum is catching on w/ people and that 4 way stop is backing up regularly. (I take the right and cut across the Baum parking lot and come out the other side)
I pretty much refuse to take Walton to get anywhere in Bville and Bella Vista is just a no go zone unless you like traffic from sun up to sun down.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 5:13 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Was at the Hive drinking after a show ar Crystal Bridges last night and was discussing regional growth. Let me preface this by saying that I love the reginal vision. We live in Fayetteille but own businesses in both Fayetteville and Bentonville. Also have a lake house in Bella vista, so we spend a lot of time at different cities in the area.
So I'm talking to a dude at the bar and being very complimentary of the Bville dining and biking scene and all the strides it's made saying that I actually prefer to eat in Bentonville much of the time. The dude then starts in on how Fayetteville is dying and is the "armpit of NWA." He used the phrase repeatedly. I'm pretty sure I was getting trolled In real life.
So I'm talking to a dude at the bar and being very complimentary of the Bville dining and biking scene and all the strides it's made saying that I actually prefer to eat in Bentonville much of the time. The dude then starts in on how Fayetteville is dying and is the "armpit of NWA." He used the phrase repeatedly. I'm pretty sure I was getting trolled In real life.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 6:19 pm to hogfly
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dude then starts in on how Fayetteville is dying and is the "armpit of NWA."
Well you can probably chalk that up to many years of the big Fayetteville-centered inferiority complex, by all of the other big towns in NWA, combined with the whole "new money" thing happening up north. Remember, Benton County didn't even have a shopping mall until like 7 years ago, and the county just went wet a short time ago. They used to have to come down here for everything.
Fayetteville added more people last year than any other city in the state. It isn't anywhere close to "dying".
I don't take that seriously. I do think Fayetteville needs to focus on quality over quantity in development. We're getting the Whole Foods, so that's good.
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 6:30 pm to wmr
It wasn't all that long ago that Dixieland Rd. was good property and Dixieland Mall was the 2nd best place to shop in NWA.
BenCo needs to slow that roll.
BenCo needs to slow that roll.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 11:44 am to wmr
Late to the thread but I'd say we are in a period of sustained growth. From talking with friends who own rental property they are increasing rent every year and still having no problem finding renters.
A few years ago they were stuck with promotion campaigns like 200 off your first month if you sign a year long lease and still having a hard time filling up most of the units.
Lets just say they aren't running that campaign now. That high a demand for rental property is a pretty good sign of a healthy economy.
A few years ago they were stuck with promotion campaigns like 200 off your first month if you sign a year long lease and still having a hard time filling up most of the units.
Lets just say they aren't running that campaign now. That high a demand for rental property is a pretty good sign of a healthy economy.
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