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re: NWA. The Next Austin?

Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:28 pm to
Skinny jeans aren't that rare (idk about in Fayetteville, haven't lived there for ~10 years) but seriously if you get triggered by someone's jeans then you have bigger problems than they do

NWA has great schools, lots of job opportunities, UA athletics, lots of other nice amenities, proximity to outdoor recreation, etc. It isn't for everybody, but if it's the fashion choices of the people who live there that keeps you away then you're a headcase, 100%
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:42 pm to
it's humorous is what it is


One January a few years ago, 2017 or 2018, there was some rumblings about "war with Iran" all the sudden, and the dipshit lefties in Fayetteville all jumped to action. They ran around College Ave "protesting war in Iran", and there never was or would be war in Iran.

Dumbfricks

They'd certainly never thought to protest Obama kissing the war machine's arse for the the previous 8 years, droning civilians, Yemen, more Iraq and Afghan, etc., but right on cue they knew the cameras would be rolling if a Republican was in office.

Especially that dumbfrick Art Hobson who fancies himself I guess as the U of A's Noem Chomsky or something, he was there with a big smile on his face "protesting war in Iran" what a dipshit
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:46 pm to
But I mean... the Art Hobson's are what make Fayetteville what it is. He isn't some new blight upon the city. He's been around forever and there's been that level of hippie at the core of Fayetteville/dickson culture forever. Any happy hour on Friday, hitting George's then Library Club/Chesters was absolutely full of that type of person.. and it was awesome.

I'm much more distressed about the number of shitty bars, like Shotz, littering dickson street than the old crunchy hippies who have been a part of the scene here since the 70s.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:51 pm to
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But I mean... the Art Hobson's are what make Fayetteville what it is. He isn't some new blight upon the city. He's been around forever and there's been that level of hippie at the core of Fayetteville/dickson culture forever. Any happy hour on Friday, hitting George's then Library Club/Chesters was absolutely full of that type of person.. and it was awesome.

I'm much more distressed about the number of shitty bars, like Shotz, littering dickson street than the old crunchy hippies who have been a part of the scene here since the 70s.



I have no qualms with good happy hours. I don't care if I'm sitting next to fricking Fidel Castro at happy hour, I'll buy him a beer.

But Hobson just exposes himself IMO and he's the leader of that Fayetteville demographic? I literally laughed out loud watching him running around with "no war in Iran" sign, another indication that he's a fake.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:54 pm to
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NWA is still a nice place to live, but if I had to place a bet, I'd bet Fayetteville hits a steep decline soon.

They are building WAY too many apartments here now. Every shithole, crime-ridden apartment building was once the nicest, newest one in town.

In 20 years, there will be so much shitty real estate in this city that attracts crime and Section 8 it won't be tolerable.

Throw in people like Good Shepherd Lutheran, CanopyNWA, and the Marxist city government who are doing everything they can to bring in refugees, poor folks, and subsidized housing, and there's no stopping it.

Bentonville will only get nicer, though. Farmington seems like a decent town. There will still be a good balance of nice cities to live in, but Fayetteville's best days are definitely behind it. I say that as a homeowner here and second generation resident.




yep
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 1:59 pm to
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Liberals aren't the problem but leftists that blend in with them that are causing all the trouble.

BLM/Antifa showed up at the Square in Bentonville a couple of years ago. My friend is a jailer for Benton County and he was with sheriff deputies in riot gear. It was ok for the first hour but they started throwing piss bottles at the deputies and in response shot tear gas at them. They were told to go home. Many of them had license plates from out of state.



all true

many were from out of state, they had bragged all weekend about what they were going to do, and they were paid to be there
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:03 pm to
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I basically live in Farmington so skinny jeans and fedoras are very rare


Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17060 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:04 pm to
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Fedoras? lol I just moved back to AR after a decade of living in NYC and I can't remember seeing anyone wearing a fedora

You get the gist.
Whatever the lastest "trend" being worn by people most likely to be wearing a mask outdoors.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17060 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:13 pm to
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Skinny jeans aren't that rare

If they aren't rare then you've moved in the wrong direction which is my point.

quote:

but seriously if you get triggered by someone's jeans then you have bigger problems than they do

I'm not triggered. Skinny jeans have never looked good on men and never will. Noticed I said men. I'm not talking about boys. Once you become an adult you understand that.


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:38 pm to
the lefties in college towns back east, including the southeast, just do what they do and coexist


the lefties in Fayetteville all want to be on the 10 o'clock news
Posted by Hmanhunt
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:59 pm to
I will say Fayetteville is at maximum capacity of murals and fricking painted storm drains
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:25 pm to
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Petty moved on from politics.


Thank God, and a damned shame he didn't do it sooner. His "defund the police" stunt to reject the student-resource officer grant showed his true colors.

That little piece of political theater has cost this city much in the way of good police officers, public safety, and money. That's the primary reason Fayetteville having to throw bonuses to hire new cops.

Very many good young officers moved on to closeby, less hostile jurisdictions.

I used to like Petty, but he is a dyed-in-the-wool Leftist nutjob these days. A quick glance at his social media shows who he has become.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

But I mean... the Art Hobson's are what make Fayetteville what it is. He isn't some new blight upon the city. He's been around forever and there's been that level of hippie at the core of Fayetteville/dickson culture forever. Any happy hour on Friday, hitting George's then Library Club/Chesters was absolutely full of that type of person.. and it was awesome.

I'm much more distressed about the number of shitty bars, like Shotz, littering dickson street than the old crunchy hippies who have been a part of the scene here since the 70s.
Show this thread to normal (not online) people in Fayetteville and the vast majority will think the people posting in here are complete weirdos. I think they'd wonder wtf the people in here are talking about

I guess there's a tendency for people to exaggerate when they're online. Idk. Seems like some people in here think Fayetteville is the Paris Commune, but it's really just a typical American college town
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 11:43 pm
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7218 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 5:27 am to
I’m sure some people are saying that, but what I’m thinking is how long can you add 25-46% of your population before you become a homogenized version of every other city. If I had wanted to live in Nashville or Austin I would move there, but we are getting a bunch of people who can’t be there, so they come here and try to make us them.

If we had a year over year census, I would bet from the beginning of the pandemic til now we have gained 10-20% of our population. Our property taxes and rent are sky rocketing. The roaming drug dens that we call homeless is worse and so is the crime, not just minor crime either, major crimes like rapes and murders.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 8:38 am to
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That's the primary reason Fayetteville having to throw bonuses to hire new cops.


Sure it doesn't have anything to do with the 2% unemployment rate?
Posted by Hmanhunt
Member since Sep 2015
641 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 10:10 am to
People are moving here because jobs are here. It’s not going to stop anytime soon. I don’t foresee crime becoming a large issue here then again I am born and raised LR so “rising crime” in Fayetteville is arbitrary. I would focus on how to capitalize on the population shift or just go ahead and move to Siloam Springs.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 10:31 am to
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Sure it doesn't have anything to do with the 2% unemployment rate?
quote:

Sure it doesn't have anything to do with the 2% unemployment rate?


Fayetteville pays well for Police Departments.

Fayetteville has the lowest number of officers per capita of a major city in Arkansas.

Fayetteville offers bonuses for new officers, and existing officers who transfer.

Fayetteville STILL can't fill its roster.

We did not have that problem before our city council voted to reject free federal funding for two school resource officers and turned a minor city council vote into multiple meetings of BLM pandering and nonsense.

It has way more to do with that than the unemployment rate.
Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 10:42 am to
Anyway, I agree with the article in the OP that we are one of the cities which will become what Austin is.

In a lot of ways, we already are what Austin was in the late 1980s. Metro population approaching 600k. Lots of outdoor activities that are accessible (for now). A big state school in the south end of the metro. Big corporations in the north end of the metro. Increasingly blue dot in an overwhelmingly red state.

We have the same types of lakes and floating rivers here that they have in the Texas Hill Country. The Ozarks overall are better and more scenic, yet very similar. The mountain biking here, at least from a technical standpoint, is as good as it is anywhere in the country.

This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 10:53 am
Posted by ArHog
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:13 pm to
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I don’t foresee crime becoming a large issue here then again I am born and raised LR so “rising crime” in Fayetteville is arbitrary


Gang violence "Messicans" in Springdale and Rogers is at an all time high.

Not as bad as tRock and Pine Bluff but it's growing rapidly with the wide open border issue.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 1:13 pm to
The trouble finding new police recruits is a nationwide trend, not a Fayetteville-specific thing LINK

Do I believe that Fayetteville is having more trouble than a more conservative city in Arkansas? Sure, wouldn't surprise me
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