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re: Gay marriage ban struck down.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:03 pm to Hawgeye
Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:03 pm to Hawgeye
Meh, you are talking about taking away rights instead of granting equal rights.
Huckabee's argument that the voters should be decide is flawed because the majority isn't often going to grant equality for a minority, that is where the courts come in in our government system, as he would have learned in his 9th grade civics class.
As far as the state, if the judge's decision is over turned, the licenses granted will likely not be revoked, again you are taking away rights...
Huckabee's argument that the voters should be decide is flawed because the majority isn't often going to grant equality for a minority, that is where the courts come in in our government system, as he would have learned in his 9th grade civics class.
As far as the state, if the judge's decision is over turned, the licenses granted will likely not be revoked, again you are taking away rights...
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:08 pm to DaleDenton
You're missing the entirety of my point.....A county judge does not have the power to strike down any state law, no matter if your view of said law is equal rights or basic rights. Speaking on gay marriage or the right to carry a weapon, they're all laws in our state.
The timing of how he did this was very manipulative and unprofessional.
The timing of how he did this was very manipulative and unprofessional.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 7:39 pm to Hawgeye
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:52 am to Hawgeye
No your missing the point, for social issues if you disagree with liberals you are racist, a bigot, and also a dumb conservative.
The matter of which the social measures are pushed through makes no difference. Welcome to the world of the left, pure hypocrisy.
The matter of which the social measures are pushed through makes no difference. Welcome to the world of the left, pure hypocrisy.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 9:16 am to j1897
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No your missing the point, for social issues if you disagree with liberals you are racist, a bigot, and also a dumb conservative.
What do you disagree with?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:01 am to Stonehog
The near constant bypassing of government operations, checks, and balances.
It's terrifying actually, but liberals literally could care less because it's pushing thier social agenda and orchestrated by thier ruling class.
If the GOP takes the senate, and then the presidency in 16, they are going to do the same shite and this country will burn. All while the liberals cry about not following the rules, they will only be following liberal precedents.
It's terrifying actually, but liberals literally could care less because it's pushing thier social agenda and orchestrated by thier ruling class.
If the GOP takes the senate, and then the presidency in 16, they are going to do the same shite and this country will burn. All while the liberals cry about not following the rules, they will only be following liberal precedents.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:11 am to j1897
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The near constant bypassing of government operations, checks, and balances.
Equality isn't an issue that the government is to allow voting on by the public, especially when the rights being infringed upon is of a minority group.
The Judicial branch is the check and balance to these issues, there are further checks and balances within that will send the issue to the highest level of the branch for a ruling in regards to the constitution of the US and/or State.
It isn't an "us vs them" level of debate/strategy that became so popular in the 30s-50s by conservatives.
If equality was up for vote, equality distribution would still be controlled by white land owning male voters...
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:15 am to DaleDenton
shite.. all these years I thought courts overturning laws WAS a part of the system of checks and balances.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:17 am to Killean
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shite.. all these years I thought courts overturning laws WAS a part of the system of checks and balances.
You must not have been in Huckabee's 9th grade Civics class.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:22 am to DaleDenton
It's hard to take a group of people (Conservatives) seriously as thinking individuals when prominent members of their group have advocated for the following positions:
Repeal of Child Labor Laws.
Allowing only landowners to Vote.
Repeal of Civil Rights.
Pro-Torture
Institution of the Christian equivalent of Sharia Law.
I mean for frick's sake it's like the party agenda is to roll shite back to 1840 and toss in some of the old British law's.
Repeal of Child Labor Laws.
Allowing only landowners to Vote.
Repeal of Civil Rights.
Pro-Torture
Institution of the Christian equivalent of Sharia Law.
I mean for frick's sake it's like the party agenda is to roll shite back to 1840 and toss in some of the old British law's.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:26 am to Killean
The fringe have far to much say in each party.
The left's thought process is clouded by the thought of creating a Utopia, the right's by religion.
The left's thought process is clouded by the thought of creating a Utopia, the right's by religion.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:31 am to Killean
i'm not conservative or liberal- i refuse to be labeled either because i think both suck hard in their own ways at times but i may be considered
depending on the situation. if it's necessary and we're talking terrorists or something along those lines etc, do what you have to do. i'll turn my head and won't think a thing about it.
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Pro-Torture
depending on the situation. if it's necessary and we're talking terrorists or something along those lines etc, do what you have to do. i'll turn my head and won't think a thing about it.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:36 am to piggilicious
Torture is fricking stupid because it's unreliable and causes more harm than good.
Why do you think that confessions obtained under duress can't be used? Because people make shite up to get out of those situations.
Why do you think that confessions obtained under duress can't be used? Because people make shite up to get out of those situations.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:40 am to Killean
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Torture is fricking stupid because it's unreliable and causes more harm than good.
Why do you think that confessions obtained under duress can't be used? Because people make shite up to get out of those situations.
Correct.
False confessions and unreliable information has been occurred in the US, not from torture, but from lengthy interrogations by LEOs, everyone has their breaking point to where they will tell you what they think you want to hear in an attempt to remove themselves from the situation you have them in.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:47 am to Killean
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Torture is fricking stupid because it's unreliable and causes more harm than good.
Jack Bauer says frick YOU
Posted on 5/13/14 at 11:53 am to blacknblu
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Jack Bauer says frick YOU
that is exactly what i was thinking.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:16 pm to piggilicious
Torture never works
Torture finds OBL
Obama assassinated OBL
Torture never works.
fricking hypocrites.
Torture finds OBL
Obama assassinated OBL
Torture never works.
fricking hypocrites.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:18 pm to j1897
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Torture finds OBL
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:54 pm to Stonehog
this thread has ran the gamut for sure... Back to Gays, Marriage, and Cannibalistic Sacrifice please..
To me personally, what Piazza did was on a Friday afternoon before the news could hit the airways quickly, and some folks were tipped off sooner than other so the marriage certificates could be issued as quickly as possible. Notification were not quickly in coming to those who disagree and fought for the law to begin with. I sense some repercussions coming on his behalf in the future.
Never a fan of Huckeba... am now...
Posted on 5/13/14 at 3:02 pm to Razorback Reverend
No one picked up on the "Big Love" reference.
I don't care which side your on this SHOULD NOT be a government decision. If they can tell you who you can and can not marry what else can they tell you what not to do?
As far as the bible thumpers, I don't see you bashing divorce lawyers or protesting to make divorce illegal. That is the core of your complaint on this issue, sanctity of marriage correct?
I don't care which side your on this SHOULD NOT be a government decision. If they can tell you who you can and can not marry what else can they tell you what not to do?
As far as the bible thumpers, I don't see you bashing divorce lawyers or protesting to make divorce illegal. That is the core of your complaint on this issue, sanctity of marriage correct?
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