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re: Does anybody else just not really care anymore?
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:34 pm to TheCheshireHog
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:34 pm to TheCheshireHog
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minor league baseball
Other than golf, I personally can't imagine a more boring event to watch.
College baseball.
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:39 pm to Arksulli
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The few times that he gets seriously POed about something and goes all out in the prep for that week we've looked like a completely different team. After getting destroyed by Auburn he has the team come out with a mean streak against Florida and blows the doors off them... only to go back to half arsing it the next week.
It is starting to look like Houston Nutt syndrome. Nutt would coast through a season but by God one or two games a year he'd have circled on the calendar and we'd play out of our minds. Those games were great but as the years rolled on you had to start asking why don't we play like that all the time?
In addition to farting rainbows in spring ball and fall camp, this is what bugs me the most about Bielema. There's no consistency whatsoever, and I've said for years that while I admired his success in the Big Ten, it's a far cry from the meat grinder that is an SEC regular season schedule.
In the Big Ten, you can rest on your laurels to a degree after winning a big game against Ohio State because your next three are against the likes of Purdue, Indiana and Minnesota. In the SEC, you can't coast for a few weeks after beating Alabama, because you have Ole Miss, Auburn and LSU immediately staring you in the face. That, in addition to being a prick and losing the fan base completely, is what did in Nutt.
Circling back to my original point, I'm not particularly happy about the fact that I feel like I can't trust the message being conveyed by our football coach about his team.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 1:19 pm to Feral
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In addition to farting rainbows in spring ball and fall camp, this is what bugs me the most about Bielema.
Honest question: Is this not what most coaches do? I totally get the point about him not performing well enough but it seems like most coaches pump of their fan base whether it is deserve or not. Butch Jones is the king of this. Just a little thing that I don't understand maybe I'm in the wrong.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:18 pm to rockiee
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Honest question: Is this not what most coaches do? I totally get the point about him not performing well enough but it seems like most coaches pump of their fan base whether it is deserve or not. Butch Jones is the king of this. Just a little thing that I don't understand maybe I'm in the wrong.
No, no, I think everyone gets what you are saying. We all sort of want our coaches to talk up the team in Spring.
Where Bert runs into trouble is what he says in the Spring bears about as much resemblance to reality as ice cream does to horse dung.
That is where people get annoyed, he raves about how this is the best offensive line since Jesus ran the Wing-T and then we can't move an FCS team off the line of scrimmage.
We are all football fans. We don't want to be lied too... just a little bullshite. We can live with bullshite but not out and out lies.
Bert talks a better game then he delivers I am afraid.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:12 pm to Arksulli
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No, no, I think everyone gets what you are saying. We all sort of want our coaches to talk up the team in Spring.
Where Bert runs into trouble is what he says in the Spring bears about as much resemblance to reality as ice cream does to horse dung.
That is where people get annoyed, he raves about how this is the best offensive line since Jesus ran the Wing-T and then we can't move an FCS team off the line of scrimmage.
We are all football fans. We don't want to be lied too... just a little bullshite. We can live with bullshite but not out and out lies.
Bert talks a better game then he delivers I am afraid.
Fair enough, maybe it is harder for me to see or hear because I'm fairly immune to most of the "coach talk". I always try to take comments from reporters, personalities and coaches with a grain of salt.
Depending on what reporters you listen to last year, you would have thought we had the best Dline in the SEC. I'll admit that I bought a little into that hype. I'll give some a little bit of a pass on that because it probably did look amazing going against our Oline.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:16 pm to Stonehog
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College baseball
I would much rather go to a Razorback game than a Naturals game. It's corny as shite.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 5:34 pm to rockiee
quote:I think you have 2 groups of thought out there. There's the one with beilama, butch, where they build up their players and then you have the group with spurrier and Saban where nothing is ever good enough.
Honest question: Is this not what most coaches do
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:23 pm to razorbackfan4life
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I care about the fact we are paying an absurd amount of money for mediocrity.
ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT BUDGETS
It is an absurd amount of money but our budget was only 9th in the conference in 2014-15.
got to be absurd just to be middle of the pack I guess
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:28 pm to gthog61
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got to be absurd just to be middle of the pack I guess
This is what I think some don't realize. You think we spend a lot of money but the folks above us are spending much more.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:12 pm to TheCheshireHog
It's still no excuse for Missouri Texas tech Louisiana tech toledo and samford. Those teams shouldn't be close to us
Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:15 pm to TheCheshireHog
The losses to bama lsu auburn a&m hell even ole miss are understandable. They suck but understandable. But half of beilamas losses aren't against those teams. You can't tell me were good enough to beat teams like lsu 2 years ago and Florida this past year then shite the bed against Missouri and blow a lead like we did against v tech. That's not talent or resource difference that's coaching. Whether on the game management or player management there was a disconnect that falls at the feet of every coach on that staff
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:22 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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You can't tell me were good enough to beat teams like lsu 2 years ago and Florida this past year then shite the bed against Missouri and blow a lead like we did against v tech.
You aren't wrong but I think you are partly stating why its a weird deal. We have seen him get it done against teams that have vastly more talent than us. For awhile Bama fans thought he was the 2nd best coach in the league because of how we competed against them for that two year period in 14-15. That being said you are right about the terrible losses. There isn't an excuse for how we have performed in many games.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 8:58 pm to rockiee
I feel like it proves that he CAN be a good game day coach. But that he's lazy at times which isn't gonna work at a place like Arkansas. Like someone else said even our bad teams aren't on the level of the big 10 bottom feeders. And even then he had some head scratching losses there if you look at his tenure their
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:06 am to rockiee
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Honest question: Is this not what most coaches do? I totally get the point about him not performing well enough but it seems like most coaches pump of their fan base whether it is deserve or not. Butch Jones is the king of this. Just a little thing that I don't understand maybe I'm in the wrong.
Not really, insofar as the good coaches are concerned.
Most coaches don't tout their defensive lines as one of the best they've ever been around and a team strength, only to proceed to watch them get pushed around by the likes of Louisiana Tech and end the season being generationally bad in the statistical sense.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:13 am to Feral
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Not really, insofar as the good coaches are concerned.
I could agree more with this statement if you changed good to elite.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:35 am to rockiee
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I could agree more with this statement if you changed good to elite.
I'd refer you to the second paragraph of the post you're quoting.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:05 am to Feral
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I'd refer you to the second paragraph of the post you're quoting.
I already posted almost the same thing earlier in this thread, don't disagree. I think if we are all being honest we are a little bias because we aren't following any team news/coach conferences as much as we are Bert and the Arkansas media. Although, I do think the media was doing way more "hyping" than anything Bert did.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 10:06 am
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:47 am to Feral
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Most coaches don't tout their defensive lines as one of the best they've ever been around and a team strength, only to proceed to watch them get pushed around by the likes of Louisiana Tech and end the season being generationally bad in the statistical sense.
To be fair what he saw was them going against our offensive line last year so I'm sure they did look pretty good
Posted on 4/26/17 at 12:15 pm to gohogs141
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I would much rather go to a Razorback game than a Naturals game. It's corny as shite.
I was talking about the product. There's a huge talent disparity between college baseball and minor league baseball.
Posted on 4/26/17 at 1:36 pm to Stonehog
There is between the NFL and college too but I would rather watch college. These days a large percentage of MLB played college ball anyway.
Besides, a AA roster has a ton of international players you've never heard of while most of the college players are local kids. I did get to see Mike Trout play for the Travs though so cases like that are an exception.
Besides, a AA roster has a ton of international players you've never heard of while most of the college players are local kids. I did get to see Mike Trout play for the Travs though so cases like that are an exception.
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