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re: Day after takes on Game 1

Posted on 9/4/22 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 6:09 pm to
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he threw 69%
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So the 21%

What happened on the other 10%?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:18 pm to
so you're mostly unable to talk x's and o's but you're going to throw insults via a temper tantrum


if a team is playing to take away the deep ball, they would be in cover 3 or a four across bracket matchup zone with four DB's able to run with the deep ball

but you don't want to talk about that now


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No shite Sherlock.

Do you understand the importance of the safety positions and the difference between cover 1 and cover 2?

If you did, you’d understand the post.



I'm really sure that I understand that there are zone/man variations and that cover 2 for instance can be zone underneath and over the top, or bump and run man underneath with zone safeties over the top

but you don't want to talk about that now


most teams call straight man (5-6 yards off, a yard inside the WR) cover 1, which WOULD actually be a time when the safeties would be up in straight man on slots and tight ends, or offset backs


I actually know Canaan Sandy, and he's a great guy


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:24 pm to
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What happened on the other 10%?

Benefit of the doubt
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:26 pm to
I saw and talked with him at the Har-Ber game on Friday.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:26 pm to
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Guns a blazing in a thread that you’ll now undoubtedly run into the shitter…because that’s what you are, a shitty poster.



the fact that you posted another round of pessimistic crybaby whiner shite does not equal me ruining your thread

you ruined it when you posted it
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:38 pm to
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if a team is playing to take away the deep ball, they would be in cover 3 or a four across bracket matchup zone with four DB's able to run with the deep ball


No they wouldn’t, when they’re attempting to take away the run as well. Cincinnati played under cover 2 damn near the entire game. 2 safeties over the top. LB matches up with TE or RB.

Bracket matchup zone? WTF are we playing basketball now?

Cover 3 is straight zone. Cincy tried to play more man yesterday to have more freedom in the box. Not once did they play cover 3, that I recall.

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but you don't want to talk about that now


I’ll talk scheme all day long…but I’m not going to talk to a jackass that’s constantly attacking posters for a different view than yours.

Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:39 pm to
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I saw and talked with him at the Har-Ber game on Friday.


You probably never knew you were speaking with a poster from here.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:44 pm to
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Cincinnati played under cover 2 damn near the entire game. 2 safeties over the top.



so does everyone else in the nation, including us

so you moved to goalpost to include "also attempting to take away the run" you're a dishonest person - 3 deep and four across brackets are the best coverages for taking away the deep ball

nobody sits and plays straight man all day


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Bracket matchup zone? WTF are we playing basketball now?


wow, continue to implode whiner boy


I never said Cincy played cover 3, you're making shite up again. And yes, there are variations of cover 3 with one or more guys playing underneath man with the zone safeties over the top, so you're wrong again


you're the jackass bub
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:45 pm to
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You probably never knew you were speaking with a poster from here.



the fact that you're making fun of someone with Downs Syndrome only confirms the kind of pissant bitch you are
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:48 pm to
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Bracket matchup zone? WTF are we playing basketball now?




here you go bitch. Take your pick. DC's have only been doing it for over 30 years


secondary matchup zone brackets
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:53 pm to
Why can't people disagree around here without talking shite?

BTW, cover 2 absolutely helps to stop the long pass, especially on the edges and if your safety is fast enough he can play up some to disguise the coverage, while giving a run help look before dropping back to his zone.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 7:58 pm to
Yea…congrats on google…now go find me a coach that makes some damn bracket coverage call. Not happening. Find a player that played for any DC that ran whatever the hell you googled. Good luck…

Now…tell me again how cover 3 is what Cincinnati did yesterday while also playing man coverage.

I don’t think I ever saw them in a cover 3 defense yesterday. They ran under cover 2, under cover 1, and over cover 2 pretty much the entire game. They never got into cover 3 even before the half. Do you even know what cover 3 is?





Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:00 pm to
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Why can't people disagree around here without talking shite?



ask yourself that


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BTW, cover 2 absolutely helps to stop the long pass



and 3 deep is even better, duh



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especially on the edges and if your safety is fast enough he can play up some to disguise the coverage, while giving a run help look before dropping back to his zone.



nope, deep safeties play pass first. They don't give "run help looks" before dropping. They play run second, pass first.



Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:02 pm to
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and 3 deep is even better, duh


Cover 3 is fricking prevent

Stop fricking talking about this shite.

Do you even know what the number means?
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:04 pm to
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nope, deep safeties play pass first. They don't give "run help looks" before dropping. They play run second, pass first.


So…let’s start here…do you even know the difference between a free safety and a strong safety…what about a nickel?
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:06 pm to
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nope, deep safeties play pass first. They don't give "run help looks" before dropping. They play run second, pass first.


Nobody said that they were playing the run first.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:11 pm to



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now go find me a coach that makes some damn bracket coverage call. Not happening. Find a player that played for any DC that ran whatever the hell you googled. Good luck



holy shite you're stupid. Show me a coach that doesn't. Find Bob Trott, Dave Wommack, John Thompson, give them a call and ask them.



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Now…tell me again how cover 3 is what Cincinnati did yesterday while also playing man coverage.



once again, you're making shite up. I said cover 3 doesn't have to the simplistic bullshite you make it out to be. I didn't say "Cincy played 3 zone/man combo", but yes, it exists, you idiot.



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Do you even know what cover 3 is?





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I don’t think I ever saw them in a cover 3 defense yesterday. They ran under cover 2, under cover 1, and over cover 2 pretty much the entire game.


I guess you really believe only about 3 coverages exist. But again, I didn't say "cincy played cover 3", liar. Pathological liar.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:14 pm to
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Cover 3 is fricking prevent


no, it's not, dumbass


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Stop fricking talking about this shite.


No, I don't fricking think I will you little crybaby whiner


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Do you even know what the number means?



???
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 9/4/22 at 8:14 pm to
this is fricking bizarro world
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