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re: Bert's buyout not $15M after all

Posted on 10/12/17 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 5:27 pm to
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Supposedly if Long is staying, there's a small contingent on the BOT that don't want Long to make the new hire



Do you really think that JL just hired Bert without consulting with the BOT?

I just can't believe that the BOT gave JL carte blanche to make the hire.

Maybe Rev could enlighten me on that situation as I'm not a huge donor.

At the time Bert had a good resume, now we see that he could be in over his head.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 5:43 pm to
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Do you really think that JL just hired Bert without consulting with the BOT?

No! they were definitely consulted. But they look at Long as the leader of that hire, the letter situation!

I just can't believe that the BOT gave JL carte blanche to make the hire. Maybe Rev could enlighten me on that situation as I'm not a huge donor.

Lol, nor am I, just friends with a few who are. They gave him the approval to hire, but definitely followed his lead. Long called a couple of folks and got them on board with the hire prior to the full meeting.

At the time Bert had a good resume, now we see that he could be in over his head.


His resume was Blah to me. I liked the hire for stability sake alone. Especially following the JLS and BP fiascos. However, he won what he did in a very down Big (or so it seems to me) and he didn't play the best teams in the Big during his better seasons. The one things that caused me to be more supportive was what he did to the Nutt coached Hogs in a bowl game.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:22 pm to
So... Why would someone from Bert's camp float the buyout figure to the media or go to them about it, because that seems to be the understanding right now? Rev can you dig in and see if this is legitimate or not?

I can only assume that he's wanting the college football world to know that it doesn't take that much to buy him out because he's expecting suitors and/or wants out, right?
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:37 pm to
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So... Why would someone from Bert's camp float the buyout figure to the media or go to them about it, because that seems to be the understanding right now? Rev can you dig in and see if this is legitimate or not? I can only assume that he's wanting the college football world to know that it doesn't take that much to buy him out because he's expecting suitors and/or wants out, right?


I don't think it came from CBB's camp at all. From what I was told, was it was floated and given the go ahead to the Dem Gaz to gauge reaction from fans, and others. and to place more pressure on CBB.

It makes sense, we all know the media in the state is controlled by the hill. Look at ole Wally the past week. He was unleashed by somebody...

Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:46 pm to
I think wally was told to put pressure on them both. Then long let the contract out to take pressure off him and place it squarely on Bert.

It is over for him. I think beating auburn and winning out is the only way to keep his job. I will say that at this point I do not want Him to accomplish this goal. Infact I would want him fired anyways. We are boring and predictable. It's time for a change no matter what.

We have seen signs of his ineptness since year one. We didn't know it then and blamed it on JLS. This dude has been a fraud his whole time here.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 9:48 pm
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:59 pm to
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I think wally was told to put pressure on them both.



Wally is about as disconnected to the on goings on the hill as I am..



Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:00 pm to
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I don't think it came from CBB's camp at all.


See this is what I was assuming at first too, I mean obviously it was put out there intentionally with Long's blessing to say "game on."

But this guy I normally hear this stuff from is swearing it came from someone on Bert's side and that they consider this the first shots fired because he won't go quietly into the night. I don't know how this would benefit him other than signaling to other programs to come bang his door down for his services, and with his ego that's not hard to believe either.

Occams razor says it was an AD release, so that's what we'll go with until there's more out there.
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:04 pm to
Well no shite. Doesn't mean someone around him didn't tell him to go say what he said. He hasn't ever had an original thought.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:25 pm to
I would be very shocked to find out that CBB had anything to do with it. And I'm not sure Long did. More like a BOT member who wants some action decided to force the issue.

Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:38 pm to
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I would be very shocked to find out that CBB had anything to do with it. And I'm not sure Long did. More like a BOT member who wants some action decided to force the issue.


Winner, winner, chikin dinner

Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:08 pm to
So you're saying not all BOT members are also GPA enthusiasts?
Posted by Devil_doge
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:26 pm to
Time to fire up good ol' Flightaware.
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 4:43 am to
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I would be very shocked to find out that CBB had anything to do with it. And I'm not sure Long did. More like a BOT member who wants some action decided to force the issue.


Agreed.

I don't think Long wants to fire Bielema at all because he runs the program off the field the way Long wants it to be run (minimal legal troubles, high GPA, high character expectations, etc.). However, he's also a shrewd enough businessman and self-preservationist to not want to go down with the SS Bertship.

The more I think about it, the more I think you're right in that this was probably planted by a Trustee who wants to press the issue that firing Bielema isn't actually financially untenable.
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:30 am to
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It makes sense, we all know the media in the state is controlled by the hill. Look at ole Wally the past week. He was unleashed by somebody...
This. I think some of these people just moved to Arkansas if they don’t know how this all works. Stories like this don’t just pop up in the ADG because we have excellent journalists.
Posted by Feral
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 7:00 am to
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I think wally was told to put pressure on them both.


Wally doesn't know jack shite about what goes on at the UofA. He's a shamockery of a journalist and sports editor.

Orville was close with Broyles and as connected as a sports writer could get. Wally is basically Peej with column space.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:30 am to
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Wally doesn't know jack shite about what goes on at the UofA. He's a shamockery of a journalist and sports editor. Orville was close with Broyles and as connected as a sports writer could get. Wally is basically Peej with column space.


But, But, but... he wont write anything scathing without some prodding. And he received a little shock last week.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Wally is basically Peej with column space


Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:48 pm to
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"...To arrive at the number, you take the numerator (if done in December would be $15.4 million…if done in January would be $11.7 million) and you divide by the denominator (the total months of the Term of Employment Agreement…which is now 97 months – early Dec 2012 – Dec 2020). Thus, if done in December the total monthly payout to Bielema would be $158,763 and if done in January would be $120,619. Then you multiply the monthly number by the remaining months under contract. In December that would be 37 and in January 36.

Thus, if Bielema is let go in early December, Arkansas will owe him $5,874,231. If he is let go in early January, Arkansas would owe him $4,342,284.

All of the above remains subject to offset from any work Bielema accepts in coaching football or as an administrator with a University or professional team.

For sure, $5.8 million is a lot more than the $1 million it would have been under the original contract, but is a whole lot less than the $15.4 million that Arkansas and his agent allowed to be written about for years mistakenly. I wonder why they never corrected the authors about this ongoing mistake?"


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Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:53 pm to
4.3 in January... Hmmm, go ahead and hire another coach to begin Jan 2nd 2018 and keep CBB on until then...

TO do what exactly?
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