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re: Tuscaloosa PD has gotten very aggressive
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:26 pm to mrbroker
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:26 pm to mrbroker
The cops are never your friends. They are there to make arrests and generate revenue. If they ask you to come outside and "talk" you can bet you are going to jail if you do so.
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:31 pm to danjam67
so you are being mugged and a cop comes along and he is never your friend?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:37 pm to mrbroker
Have you ever been mugged? If so, was there a cop there to help you? Really?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:39 pm to danjam67
so you saying the cops are not ever your friend is fairly asinine. I have not been mugged but i have been in situations where a policeman happened upon me and I was very grateful.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:07 pm to mrbroker
Well, I was in a situation where I had to pee, and I went to several locations and they would not let me use the restroom, so I peed behind a dumpster behind a dark building and a cop came back there and spotlighted me and took me to jail for public urination and public expose and tried to get me charged as a sex offender. A sex offender. I had to pee. My car got towed, I went to jail, and it cost me thousands and if the lawyer had not gotten me out of the sex offender charge, I would have to register as a sex offender every year. Yeah, lucky for me that guy happened along.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:12 pm to danjam67
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The cops are never your friends
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:17 pm to nc14
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Have there been other incidents with TPD?
There was the Tony Brown incident last year. It didn't involve police brutality like this but apparently did involve a trumped up Obstruction charge which was subsequently dropped due to the blowback caused by witnesses and social media.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 9:22 pm to Patton
Never answer the door for police. If they have a warrant to enter, they'll let themselves in.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 1:05 am to Patton
The person asking
Was smart. There are plenty of youtube videos about this.
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is he being detained or arrested
Was smart. There are plenty of youtube videos about this.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:51 am to danjam67
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The cops are never your friends
While I wouldn't go that far, they are more often your enemy than friend. In my dozens of interactions and encounters with cops, I can count on one hand the number that were respectful and professional.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 9:49 am to Patton
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Thoughts?
This has gone on for decades. The difference nowadays... some of it gets recorded and goes viral. This, in part, has led more and more people to not trust the police.
There are good cops and bad cops; well-trained cops and poorly-trained cops. We really can't distinguish the good from the bad until we see something like this or we have a personal encounter of our own.
The police have a PR problem... nationwide. This is a fact.
They can continue to be their own worse enemy or they can flip the perception people increasingly have of the police.
In this case, the TPD missed an opportunity to build trust... they didn't even try. So, now that they're being raked over the coals, will they do anything other than throw a pity party behind their "Blue Curtain"?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 11:19 am to AlaBayouBama
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The police have a PR problem... nationwide. This is a fact.
They can continue to be their own worse enemy or they can flip the perception people increasingly have of the police.
I think the "good cops" not tolerating the "bad cops" anymore would be a huge step towards changing the perception. If good cops really are the selfless, sacrificing public servants that some make them out to be, then stories like this should make them irate. But I never hear about actual police calling out BS like this. I'm related to some cops, and I never hear it. It's always either blind support for the "brotherhood," or silence.
Bad cops will never go away, but the PR problem comes from the fact that everyone knows that even if there are more good cops than bad cops, it's the bad cops that run the show.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:20 pm to danjam67
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Don't open the door to the cops without a warrant, ever.
Depends.
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Leave the chain on the door and they can say what they want from outside.
You didn't even follow your own advice.
However, this is acceptable. Just don't be expecting to see me standing in front of that cracked door. quote:
If they kick in the door they are in big trouble
No video needed. You can't unbreach a door. Damage is damage.
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easily cut off from outside.
Ah no. This is a noise complaint not Christmas at Nakatomi Plaza.
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The cops are never your friends.
No, but I have been counselor, medic, shoulder, and just a listening ear etc. The fewer friends you have the better they tend to be.
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They are there to make arrests and generate revenue.
No. Are some cops like this, sure. They start loving the job and sooner or later learn it will never love them back. I was in uniform on the quad all day Saturday. Zero arrests, zero citations. If I had a nickel for every thank you and hand shake I got it would have been a great day. Scratch that, shown a nice pair of coed tah tahs. It was a pretty good day. Happy drunks are fun.
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If they ask you to come outside and "talk" you can bet you are going to jail if you do so.
Depends. Common respect and honesty will get you plenty of discretion. You going back in and handling the problems means:
1. I don't have to.
2. No paperwork.
3. No fines, no cuffs. Be cool.
The alternative is to go by the book. The book sucks compared to being smart and being cool. Period.
This post was edited on 11/11/15 at 6:22 pm
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