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Suttles: "Dont fall for a QB controversy"
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:27 am
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:46 am to stomp
You really can't make that argument before spring ball has even started. It's always possible for a player to come in and shock everyone and ruling people out before they even have a chance is foolish. And his only evidence is that Tua is a true freshman. Obviously no true freshman would ever win the QB job, right?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:56 am to CrimsonCrusade
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You really can't make that argument before spring ball has even started.
You can easily make that argument before spring ball.
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t's always possible for a player to come in and shock everyone
Sure its possible, but to have that happen with a true freshman twice in a row is HIGHLY unlikely. It would take a lot to usurp Hurts as starter at this point - I think that that is his point.
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And his only evidence is that Tua is a true freshman.
That wasn't his only evidence.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:10 pm to Funky Tide 8
Nobody thought last year Hurts would come in as a TF and beat out Bateman, BB6, etc but he did.
I expect Hurts to improve and be the starter but Tua is the type of player that could make it interesting. He is almost a carbon copy of Hurts physically and reportedly is an accurate passer. We will see!
I expect Hurts to improve and be the starter but Tua is the type of player that could make it interesting. He is almost a carbon copy of Hurts physically and reportedly is an accurate passer. We will see!
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:19 pm to tider04
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Nobody thought last year Hurts would come in as a TF and beat out Bateman, BB6, etc but he did.
None of those guys had done anything on the field. Hurts has an SEC offensive player of the year award under his belt, as well as a 14-1 record as a starter. Its an apple and oranges comparison.
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Tua is the type of player that could make it interesting. He is almost a carbon copy of Hurts physically
Hurts was way more physically developed than Tua is coming in as a true freshman.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:26 pm to Funky Tide 8
I just think CNS would not have mislead the 2 incoming QBS and their families by telling them it's an open qb competition, but it really wasnt.
I know it's suttles opinion, and its going to be hard to beat out Hurts. I just want them to have every opportunity to compete for it, and let the best kid win.
Spring ball is not going to tell us anything at all.
I know it's suttles opinion, and its going to be hard to beat out Hurts. I just want them to have every opportunity to compete for it, and let the best kid win.
Spring ball is not going to tell us anything at all.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:49 pm to Bamadoc
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I just think CNS would not have mislead the 2 incoming QBS and their families by telling them it's an open qb competition, but it really wasnt.
In principle, yes, everything is always an open competition with our team. But Hurts is likely so far ahead of the curve compared to those guys. Suttles never said that it was impossible, just that is very unlikely.
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Spring ball is not going to tell us anything at all.
It will probably tell us that Hurts is firmly the starter.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 3:30 pm to stomp
I think there will be a very heated competition this spring and into the fall.....for backup quarterback.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 3:43 pm to Bamadoc
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I just think CNS would not have mislead the 2 incoming QBS and their families by telling them it's an open qb competition, but it really wasnt.
You ever worked in sales?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 3:59 pm to Funky Tide 8
Obviously Hurts is going to start because he has a year in the system and game day experience. We would be in the same place as last year in starting another true freshman and all the problems that entails.
A wild card in all this is Daboll. Saban apparently wants to get dial it back to more of a pro-style like the Pats run which requires being very good at the intermediate passing game. At least that is my understanding. If Tua is a gifted passer and mobile as they say then I think you could very well see Hurts getting pushed hard and Tua taking more snaps. if Hurts doesn't improve in the passing game he could have more of a skill role.
A wild card in all this is Daboll. Saban apparently wants to get dial it back to more of a pro-style like the Pats run which requires being very good at the intermediate passing game. At least that is my understanding. If Tua is a gifted passer and mobile as they say then I think you could very well see Hurts getting pushed hard and Tua taking more snaps. if Hurts doesn't improve in the passing game he could have more of a skill role.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:02 pm to stomp
No, but if it's a sales type of deal like you are implying then if both Mac and Tua see the writing on the wall like funky is saying after spring ball then they should just transfer before fall semester.
Bama fans and coaches surely wouldn't be mad at them for doing that right? Since it's a sales/business decision.
Bama fans and coaches surely wouldn't be mad at them for doing that right? Since it's a sales/business decision.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 4:17 pm to tider04
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Nobody thought last year Hurts would come in as a TF and beat out Bateman, BB6, etc but he did.
I also think Kiffin was obsessed with finding a run threat QB and Saban went along with it.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 5:17 pm to Bamadoc
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No, but if it's a sales type of deal like you are implying then if both Mac and Tua see the writing on the wall like funky is saying after spring ball then they should just transfer before fall semester.
I agree with you that it is always an open competition, and that Saban wasn't bullshitting with them when he says that it is an open competition, FWIW.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 5:34 pm to Funky Tide 8
If our weakest link to start this spring is the returning offensive player of the year then I think we are in a really good position. Stolen from Jay Barker and I agree.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:01 pm to Commander Data
Jalen Hurts is going to be All American
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/17/17 at 12:12 am to Huddie Leadbetter
This is what I've been saying. I think most people really have forgotten how good Jalen was last year, just because we lost that last game. Yeah, he needs to make major strides in the passing game.
I can almost guarantee you that these freshmen won't be better QBs in year one. Jalen was special.
Okay, so what if Tua has this amazing arm, and is somewhat mobile? Okay, well Blake Barnett was the same exact way. Playing QB at this level is totally different, and hard to judge coming out of HS.
We'll see in the spring game, but my bet is that Jalen will be wayyyy ahead in first place, and we might even see Mac Jones edge out Tua. Who knows?
I can almost guarantee you that these freshmen won't be better QBs in year one. Jalen was special.
Okay, so what if Tua has this amazing arm, and is somewhat mobile? Okay, well Blake Barnett was the same exact way. Playing QB at this level is totally different, and hard to judge coming out of HS.
We'll see in the spring game, but my bet is that Jalen will be wayyyy ahead in first place, and we might even see Mac Jones edge out Tua. Who knows?
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 12:14 am
Posted on 3/17/17 at 3:02 pm to uofarolltide
Jalen was very good for a true freshman put in the position that he was.
He was not a good quarterback when judged against other starting quarterbacks for elite teams from a passing perspective however.
Quite simply he will need to demonstrate growth with the mid range passing game or we will struggle to find balance against good defenses as we did this year and could eventually be passed as other candidates gain experience.
He was not a good quarterback when judged against other starting quarterbacks for elite teams from a passing perspective however.
Quite simply he will need to demonstrate growth with the mid range passing game or we will struggle to find balance against good defenses as we did this year and could eventually be passed as other candidates gain experience.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:08 am to CrimsonCrusade
Shuttles is correct Jalen is the QB. If Tua wants the job not only does he have to win the job from Jalen but he'll have to win the team over also.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:27 pm to labamafan
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Shuttles is correct Jalen is the QB. If Tua wants the job not only does he have to win the job from Jalen but he'll have to win the team over also.
Gotta love how this gets downvoted
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:35 pm to labamafan
Hurts definitely has the advantage and I fully expect him to keep the job. Saban reiterated today that he's the starter. But there's competition at every single position every season and you never know what can happen. Suttles declaring it over before it even began was just silly. Sounds like something you'd hear from one of the people who think Hurts is already the GOAT.
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