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Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:18 pm to RollEagles
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:18 pm to RollEagles
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The original post in this thread was about how reporters like Feldman, Mandel, and Ponder were calling out Cecil.
Ohh, read the OP again. He clearly has feminist included.
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:19 pm to BamaChick
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Oh, so because the guys I listed are trolls or shite stirrers, then we just say "Oh. frick you. You don't count! Insult away!".
HEATHER DINNICH IS A TROLL TOO.
But because she's a troll with a vagina - "OMG! MEAN THINGS ABOUT A GIRL! THIS CAN NOT STAND!!!"
Do you even realize how patronizing that is? Again, if all of Heather's many defenders had stood up for their male colleagues when Cecil insulted them then you'd have a point. But they didn't. They only felt the need to shame Cecil when the target of his insult was a woman. THAT is fricking sexist.
I'm sure people assumed Kannel and Finebaum and Cowherd were big boys who could defend themselves. Why do they not assume the same about Heather?
Because she's a little girl. frick that.
You're making this is a boy/girl thing and it isn't.
Cecil was just an arse. And didn't need to say anything.
Go look through Cecil's tweets. You can do an advanced search with his account and search for mentions of Kannel, Cowherd, or Finebaum. Never once went after one of them in a personal way or called them unqualified.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:24 pm to RollEagles
I agree with you, there was no reason to say what he did. I don't think it was sexist neccessarily(I really don't care if it was or not), but it was just stupid and unprofessional. I don't really care, but set himself up for all the flack.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:25 pm to Cobrasize
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Ohh, read the OP again. He clearly has feminist included.
You're right. He had feminists there.
Now that we have that part of things cleared up, let's try to figure out why Cecil tweeted what he did about Heather but when you search his Twitter feed for other Alabama trolls, who have also said much worse things, we get nothing.
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It's easy to make the reductionist argument that the journalists are patronizing women by calling Cecil out about Heather but we really can't find another time when Cecil was so blatantly dickish at targeting a specific person.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:30 pm to RollEagles
Maybe he doesn't like her. Maybe he made a mistake. He has been a dick to Plenty of people especially Kanell. Like I said, right or wrong he is entitled to his opinion. I have no problem with anyone blasting his opinion if they don't agree. My whole problem is calling him sexist. That's bullshite.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:32 pm to Cobrasize
Yeah I agree that we don't have enough here to know if he's sexist or not.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:34 pm to RollEagles
Uhhh why do we need to do twitter forensics to find out why Cecil overreacted? Maybe he just hates Heather cause sometimes people rub people the wrong way for no justifiable reason. How about everybody let Cecil and Heather hash it out and we all move on?
The real troll is whoever wrote that Finebaum tweet. It was pure trolling genius to editing what Rachel said the way they did.
The real troll is whoever wrote that Finebaum tweet. It was pure trolling genius to editing what Rachel said the way they did.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:36 pm to RollEagles
He isn't sexist or anything. He is actually a pretty liberal guy.
I just hate when words like sexist and racist are thrown around nonchalantly. People become deaf about real sexism and racism.
I just hate when words like sexist and racist are thrown around nonchalantly. People become deaf about real sexism and racism.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:45 pm to RollEagles
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Cecil Hurt
@CecilHurt
My Danny Kanell Stock Report: Buy Enron instead.
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Cecil Hurt ?@CecilHurt 1 Jun 2015
Mark May going off College Football Final, replaced by (wait for it)... Danny Kanell -
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Cecil Hurt ?@CecilHurt 19 Nov 2014
@DavidHaleESPN and I are going to discuss the CFP rankings on @Finebaum in a few. I will be civil unless @danny_kanell joins in.
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Dan Wolken @DanWolken
We’re still doing the throat slash?
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Cecil Hurt ?@CecilHurt 25 Sep 2015
Cecil Hurt Retweeted Dan Wolken
Not until Kanell comes on. Cecil Hurt added,
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Cecil Hurt ?@CecilHurt 30 Aug 2015
When Kanye finishes, we'll have a rebuttal from Skip Bayless.
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Cecil Hurt ?@CecilHurt 24 May 2015
I hate a Horford got ejected but I really hate that Stephen A. and Skip Bayless will have takes on it tomorrow.
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Cecil Hurt ?@CecilHurt 18 Nov 2014
+100 RT @RJ_Young: Get Stephen A. Smith off college basketball. Now.
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Cecil Hurt ?@CecilHurt 27 Jan 2014
Somehow Stephen A. Smith is about to make Durant's hot streak about Stephen A. Smith. Then debate Skip on whether Tebow could guard KD.
So, taking the piss out these guys is okay but calling Heather "unqualified" is what makes everyone jump up and holler?
You can wiggle around this all you like but you aren't dumb. You know as well as I do that if Cecil had tweeted the exact same thing about a male analyst that none of these people would have said a damn word about it.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:49 pm to BamaChick
Yup, that's the ballgame folks 
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:02 pm to Cobrasize
Not sure how what Cecil said there is nearly as bad as saying someone isn't qualified to do their job because of a different opinion.
EDIT: The Kannell Enron thing is close. But also, Cecil never went after whether those people should be in those positions. That's what he did with Heather.
But also, I don't understand why it's so outrageous for those guys to jump Cecil for the Dinnich stuff. It was a really stupid thing of him to say. Glad his colleagues called him on it.
EDIT: The Kannell Enron thing is close. But also, Cecil never went after whether those people should be in those positions. That's what he did with Heather.
But also, I don't understand why it's so outrageous for those guys to jump Cecil for the Dinnich stuff. It was a really stupid thing of him to say. Glad his colleagues called him on it.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:18 pm to RollEagles
Yeah you're being willfully obtuse at this point.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:21 pm to BamaChick
This thread needs to be anchored
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:21 pm to Cobrasize
I am not sure how that is ball game. She is doing the exact same thing that the people who are unjustifiable calling Cecil sexist are doing, just doing it the other way. She would have to go into the timeline of every other person/journalist who defended her, and find evidence that they have never defended a male journalist who has, been insulted by anyone, not just Cecil for it to be ball game. Even then twitter forensics is still not enough to prove they have never done it in some other capacity. Really I do not understand the idea of believing you learn everything about people through their twitter history. Stop the twitter forensics!
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:22 pm to BamaChick
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You can wiggle around this all you like but you aren't dumb.
Actually he's just showing what a cuck he is.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:14 pm to stat19
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Actually he's just showing what a cuck he is.
Best post of the thread.
What grinds my gears specifically is that the main stream faces decided they would all gang up on Cecil. And what's funny is that they all have journalism degrees for the most part, but let's be honest. I'd be willing to bet the odds of people thinking heather dinich's opinion on college football is solid is at about 10 percent of people.
There are writers like Cecil who have been around multiple eras of football. Cecil is old enough to be here father. I'm sorry but life experience and time covering the sport since the Bryant days trumps what some floozy Alabama hater thinks about a topic she has been covering for 8 years.
To put that in perspective on when she started covering football, LSU just won the national title with les miles.
Cecil since the 70's.
Sam Ponder probably didn't know what football was until a couple of years ago when she started sitting on Christian Ponder's pole.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 11:21 pm to South Alabama Tide
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Sam Ponder probably didn't know what football was until a couple of years ago when she stared sitting on Christian Ponder's pole.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:03 am to South Alabama Tide
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What grinds my gears specifically is that the main stream faces decided they would all gang up on Cecil. And what's funny is that they all have journalism degrees for the most part, but let's be honest. I'd be willing to bet the odds of people thinking heather dinich's opinion on college football is solid is at about 10 percent of people.
There are writers like Cecil who have been around multiple eras of football. Cecil is old enough to be here father. I'm sorry but life experience and time covering the sport since the Bryant days trumps what some floozy Alabama hater thinks about a topic she has been covering for 8 years.
To put that in perspective on when she started covering football, LSU just won the national title with les miles.
Cecil since the 70's.
Sam Ponder probably didn't know what football was until a couple of years ago when she stared sitting on Christian Ponder's pole.
You just showed you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation.
This isn't about opinions and whether you agree with them or not. Heather Dinnich's college football opinions might not be what everyone agrees with.
The difference is that Cecil questioned whether or not she is qualified. So does she not have the journalism degrees? Has she not covered other teams before? Sure, Cecil has more experience in the field and has spent more time covering it. But that doesn't mean he'll be immune to criticism if he says something really stupid. Also, I'd say Heather has made it much bigger than Cecil. Cecil's been stuck in Alabama covering one team. Heather is now a national reporter and has much more of a base. Not saying her opinions are good or not. But her qualifications definitely are.
As for your comments about Christian Ponder, you just showed how much of a tool you are.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 12:07 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:07 am to South Alabama Tide
"Wah why'd they have to gang up on Cecil like that? He's someone who covers my favorite team so I'll irrationally defend him. All Cecil did was attack someone. How dare other people attack him. Damn PC crowd policing Cecil. Only I get to police people and tell them they can't attack my guy. Wahhhh."
"Sam Ponder didn't know what football was until she sat on Christian Ponder's pole. I'm not sexist. Saying that isn't sexist. Quit being so PC. Don't label me as sexist. There's no way a woman can know what football is at least well enough to be a journalist unless she's sleeping with a former college QB."
"Sam Ponder didn't know what football was until she sat on Christian Ponder's pole. I'm not sexist. Saying that isn't sexist. Quit being so PC. Don't label me as sexist. There's no way a woman can know what football is at least well enough to be a journalist unless she's sleeping with a former college QB."
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 12:09 am
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:48 am to RollEagles
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As bad as Heather's takes might be, she has a journalism degree. And she's qualified.
How does that make her qualified to be a college football analyst?
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