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re: Sayin tidbit from Watts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:36 am to jryanw
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:36 am to jryanw
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That’s not what Tim Watts suggested or what’s on BOL.
Seeing as how much you defended and championed Milroe all year Inwould think you would be jumping for joy that Sayin is leaving.
Maybe you are really worried that Milroe won’t be starting this year.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 11:37 am
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:42 am to paperwasp
Whenever a chargers game is on and Allen’s name is called it’s the first thing I think of. What if, right? Didn’t he say he wanted to be with his brother or something like that?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:50 am to paperwasp
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And he went on to become a top-50 NFL WR of all time. Illogically, that somehow still pisses me off.
Saban would have helped make him a top 10 NFL corner of all time…lol
And Zach Maynard, what’s he up to these days?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:58 am to Alfie Solomons
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Seeing as how much you defended and championed Milroe all year Inwould think you would be jumping for joy that Sayin is leaving.
I loved Milroe’s athleticism with Saban’s talent around him. I’m not sure how much of that talent will be left by fall.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:04 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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When I read an implication that our top 3 recruit was chased off because you brought in your old third string QB
Maybe our top 3 recruit didn't have the balls or confidence to fight for the job and win.
Jalen Hurts and Tua are my standard for the competitive attitude I want in a QB. Neither was afraid to compete against each other.
If Sayin doesn't want to have to compete against a 3rd string QB to win the job, frick him. Good riddance.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:06 pm to RollTide1987
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I don't believe that applied to teams that were hit with major NCAA sanctions. I could be wrong but I think that players could transfer out without having to sit a year in those circumstances.
I think that was an amendment around the time of the USC probation. I do know for sure that even that rule only allowed Juniors and Seniors a free transfer.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:07 pm to BamaGradinTn
[quote]Jalen Hurts and Tua are my standard for the competitive attitude I want in a QB. Neither was afraid to compete against each other.[/quote
Tua has said he would’ve transferred if he didn’t get in the National title game.
Tua has said he would’ve transferred if he didn’t get in the National title game.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:08 pm to auisssa
i cant see any way ckd would push sayin out at all. especially when of all the qb's the least likely one to be able to run the ckd offense is milroe, not sayin.
obviously sayin was willing to play in the rees offense. if that was just to be with saban and theres no willingness to stay and play in the ckd offense, then theres nothing anyone can do. wish him well, unless he plays against bama.
obviously sayin was willing to play in the rees offense. if that was just to be with saban and theres no willingness to stay and play in the ckd offense, then theres nothing anyone can do. wish him well, unless he plays against bama.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:10 pm to Alfie Solomons
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Seeing as how much you defended and championed Milroe all year Inwould think you would be jumping for joy that Sayin is leaving.
God forbid we support and cheer-on our starting QB.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:11 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I think 129/130 programs would probably take Sayin.
I don't give a shite about what programs 10-130 would do.
Should DeBoer have just ridden and died at Washington with the QB room he inherited? Obviously not.
Sayin was obviously an outstanding HS player and an incredible prospect. To now, he's only played against 15-18 year old kids. He's about to start playing against grown arse men. We'll see how he does.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:19 pm to jryanw
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Tua has said he would’ve transferred if he didn’t get in the National title game.
Did he choose to come to Alabama knowing that Alabama already had the returning SEC player of the year at QB and compete head to head against that guy for a year?
Your point is completely irrelevant. At the same point in life, Tua chose to come to Bama and compete against a guy who had just scored the go ahead touchdown with under 3 minutes left in the national championship game. Sayin got scared off by a fricking 3rd string QB. He's a coward.
Your point about Tua occurred after he had already come here and competed for a year and decided that he wasn't going to get the job. It isn't even remotely the same as what Sayin's doing.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 12:58 pm to Kerrygold
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Didn’t he say he wanted to be with his brother or something like that?
Yep. As Glorious pointed out, the QB at Buffalo (Zach Maynard) was his older half-brother, and we didn't offer him a transfer spot. Maynard instead transferred to Cal with Allen, and we signed Phillip Sims and Blake Sims.
Also, Allen was ranked as the No. 1 safety in the country, which is what we recruited him as, and he later decided to play WR, which Saban probably wouldn't have allowed anyway.
Still, it disgusts me.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:13 pm to jryanw
quote:Who has he talked to?
That’s not what Tim Watts suggested or what’s on BOL.
I find it hard to believe that Sayin spoke to DeBoer and told him he’s 100% in for the future of Alabama football.
I have NO problem with DeBoer thinking towards the future and starting the process of building out his offense.
Sayin would have to be HIGHLY convincing that he was all in for me to consider his feelings in how I shaped my team.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:18 pm to paperwasp
I'm of two minds about this.
On one hand, Kalen DeBoer is the head coach, and he and his staff have to establish their version of the Alabama program. I support Coach DeBoer and am completely confident in his ability to maintain the success Alabama has had. They will do it in a different way than Coach Saban did, but I believe they'll do it.
On the other hand, Julian Sayin was the crown jewel in this past recruiting class, and he actively recruited other players to Alabama. This is an unexpected blow. I didn't think Sayin would start in 2024 (barring horrendous injury luck), but I could see him being ready to take the reins in 2025.
I think some players are being very short-sighted with their decision to transfer. Bond and Niblack are top of that list for me; I think they both would have put up impressive offensive numbers this year. Downs as a transfer hurts, but it's at least somewhat understandable.
Sayin, though ... there's not a good way to spin this. He may be a bust (although I doubt that), he may go somewhere and have a pedestrian collegiate career ... but regardless, he was the highest-rated recruit we had in 2023. Losing him can't be easily ignored, and sets a terrible precedent that won't be fully resolved unless and until Alabama is very successful this fall.
On one hand, Kalen DeBoer is the head coach, and he and his staff have to establish their version of the Alabama program. I support Coach DeBoer and am completely confident in his ability to maintain the success Alabama has had. They will do it in a different way than Coach Saban did, but I believe they'll do it.
On the other hand, Julian Sayin was the crown jewel in this past recruiting class, and he actively recruited other players to Alabama. This is an unexpected blow. I didn't think Sayin would start in 2024 (barring horrendous injury luck), but I could see him being ready to take the reins in 2025.
I think some players are being very short-sighted with their decision to transfer. Bond and Niblack are top of that list for me; I think they both would have put up impressive offensive numbers this year. Downs as a transfer hurts, but it's at least somewhat understandable.
Sayin, though ... there's not a good way to spin this. He may be a bust (although I doubt that), he may go somewhere and have a pedestrian collegiate career ... but regardless, he was the highest-rated recruit we had in 2023. Losing him can't be easily ignored, and sets a terrible precedent that won't be fully resolved unless and until Alabama is very successful this fall.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:18 pm to jryanw
quote:So you don't think that Alabama fans AT LEAST owe the new coaching staff a one year chance to prove itself, before you belittle, openly criticize, and dog-cuss the hell out of them and the ADs office?
We don’t owe this coaching staff anything. They haven’t done anything for us yet.
If your answer's no then I'm embarrassed that you call yourself a Tide fan!
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:22 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
That's a interesting move, run off the top QB in the country for a 3 star.
That's how one gets fired after two seasons.
That's how one gets fired after two seasons.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:25 pm to Sauron
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I could see him being ready to take the reins in 2025
The thing that gets me is how anyone on the offensive side of the ball could watch Penix last season and look at that system, and then immediately want to leave.
Defense? Sure, I get it, especially with Saban being gone.
But a QB or skill position on offense? It just makes no sense.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:27 pm to Sauron
It’s not an optimal look, but he was the highest rated recruit we had by a head coach and coaching staff that doesn’t work there anymore and whose priorities are not relevant anymore. Is it about being able to brag about star ratings or who the current coach and his staff think can better execute what they want to do?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:29 pm to Teague
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Seems more likely in the light of this new day that Mack was brought in BECAUSE Sayin was leaving, not vice versa.
Exactly
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:31 pm to remaster916
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That's a interesting move, run off the top QB in the country for a 3 star. That's how one gets fired after two seasons.
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