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re: Sayin tidbit from Watts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:48 am to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:48 am to Diego Ricardo
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Just rumors that he told him he wasn’t a good fit or something
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:49 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:49 am to jryanw
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Or DeBoer wanted his guy and has ignored Sayin since he got here.
He’s the coach, that is his right.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 10:51 am
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:50 am to Kashmir
Hell I know that I want ole boy to point out the link to that absurd statement he made saying “Julian was pushed out” because I looked on BOL and I couldn’t find anything close to that. If what he said is the truth then instead of downvoting just post the actual link.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:50 am to Gideon Swashbuckler
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If DeBoer's system works, but the cost is one 7-6 year, I'm more than fine with it.
The only reason I worry about this is that doubt spreads rapidly and a bad season is going to have the negative recruiting dialed up to 11 while we are surrounded by a bunch of absolute fricking snakes like Kirby and Freeze. I do think that for DeBoer to succeed long term we need to be pretty good this season and have a handful of guys really up their stock in the new offense.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 10:57 am to Robot Santa
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The only reason I worry about this is that doubt spreads rapidly and a bad season is going to have the negative recruiting dialed up to 11 while we are surrounded by a bunch of absolute fricking snakes like Kirby and Freeze. I do think that for DeBoer to succeed long term we need to be pretty good this season and have a handful of guys really up their stock in the new offense.
I agree about DeBoer needing to be successful in year 1. I'd be ok with 7-6. But looking at the schedule, umm...
I can't find 6 losses.
Nobody is going to know what to expect from BAMA on offense this season. That will be a good thing, especially if DeBoer can keep it vanilla until uga comes to T-town. I'm not going to be shocked if BAMA wins that game. I'll be more shocked if they got blown out.
The other thing about recruiting is that, DeBoer will be recruiting players for a different system than Kirby. That will help him a lot. Do you really need a 5*WR that comes with all the NIL shite when there's guys like Rome Odunze out there? Odunze turned Saban down to go to Washington. He's from Nevada. I know DeBoer didn't recruit him, but there are guys out there like him. I'm thinking DeBoer will be great at getting guys that he can turn into stars because of his system. If not for DeBoer, I'd probably never heard of Rome Odunze, but he's probably the best receiver in the draft, and he still has eligibility.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 11:04 am
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:00 am to RollTide1987
I feel the exact same way that you do. I allowed myself to lose control of my emotions and said some really wild shite. I love Alabama, I love Nick Saban and I am really excited to see DeBoer lead us into this next chapter of Alabama football.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:02 am to Bamagirl79
This was in another thread on here:
From BOL
Feel confident saying that Julian
and the family intended/wanted
to stay and this is driven much
more by DeBoer and staff than
by Julian. Unfortunate situation
because l'm a huge believer in
Julian's talents and think he's
going to be a star.
show less
This,
He wanted to stick it out initially and then
well, things went south.
Shocked to be honest. Sayin is the real
deal. I think the new staff will regret this
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:05 am to RollTide1987
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I was just under the mistaken, school boy belief that the current batch of Alabama players (at least the starters) were loyal to the school and not just to the coach. Bond and Downs leaving absolutely disabused me of that notion and it hurt. Why did it hurt? Because I remember 20 some odd years ago when shite hit the fan with the NCAA and Franchione leaving. We had players like DeMeco Ryans who genuinely loved Alabama and who remained through all the trials and tribulations of that era, played four years, became an All-American and went high in the NFL Draft. He had a solid NFL career and is now the head coach of an NFL playoff team.
You really can't compare the era before NIL and the portal to the era after. Folks like DeMeco had no option to leave back then without sitting out for an entire year and no potential for increasing their personal payday. The graduate transfer rule wasn't even in place then; if you transferred you sat for a year regardless of the situation.
I'd say most of those guys were here to play for Bama and did love the place back then, but the landscape is sadly all commercial now.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:07 am to jryanw
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From BOL
One thing we can say for sure about BOL during this process, is that they don't know shite or have any grand insight or connections beyond the general public.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:08 am to jryanw
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Sayin is the real
deal. I think the new staff will regret this
There's just no way to know this. Nobody would've thought that Penix would throw for 9200 yards in two seasons after his first 3. Except DeBoer. Nobody wanted Penix. Indiana is NOT where 5* go to play. DeBoer took Michael Penix and a bunch of 3 and 4 stars to the last game of the season.
Saban didn't try to recruit Penix, but with Penix last year Saban probably retires with another ring.
Also what is getting lost in all of this is a HC's ability to do cost-based analysis. If Mack costs $300k, and Sayin costs $1m, both throw for 3500 yards, who's the better choice? A sad reality, but a reality nonetheless. DeBoer is playing moneyball.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 11:12 am
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:09 am to RolltidePA
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Folks like DeMeco had no option to leave back then without sitting out for an entire year
I don't believe that applied to teams that were hit with major NCAA sanctions. I could be wrong but I think that players could transfer out without having to sit a year in those circumstances.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:13 am to RollTide1987
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don't believe that applied to teams that were hit with major NCAA sanctions. I could be wrong but I think that players could transfer out without having to sit a year in those circumstances.
You are correct
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:16 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Sayin was leaving after Saban retired.
It’s insane to pretend he wasn’t.
It’s insane to pretend he wasn’t.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:19 am to EGO3x
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Lowly 3 star? Which service are you looking at? He was top 75 overall according to 247 and On3 has him as a top 225 player according to the industry ranking.
He also signed a year early. Would’ve been at least a top 50 player in the 24 class
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:20 am to ReauxlTide222
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Sayin was leaving after Saban retired. It’s insane to pretend he wasn’t.
That’s not what Tim Watts suggested or what’s on BOL.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:21 am to FoTownBam
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He also signed a year early. Would’ve been at least a top 50 player in the 24 class
He does seem like a talented QB
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:25 am to jryanw
The way I see this is that DeBoer has spent a year with this kid. If he wasn't confident he could run his offense and run it well, this move doesn't happen. It's not like he grabbed a 4* qb he's only watched film on and met a couple times. He knows Mack. He may be betting his job in a few years if he made a bad choice, but at some point you have to let the man do his job and watch. At this point, it is what it is.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:26 am to jryanw
I'm not worried about the offense whatsoever. It will immediately be more productive than any we've had since Sark left.
It's just the absurdity of the situation with college athletics right now that's frustrating.
It's just the absurdity of the situation with college athletics right now that's frustrating.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 11:29 am to Teague
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It's just the absurdity of the situation with college athletics right now that's frustrating.
Agreed
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