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re: Leaving early, block seating, and rewarding real fans.

Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:09 am to
Posted by ATLabama
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:09 am to
What I don't understand is why in the hell everyone is pissy about block seating... heck, it's in the endzone.

If the block seating were between the goalline and the 50, I'd get it.

The other sections of the student section have generally better seats, so why bitch anyways?

Posted by CrimsonCoast
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:16 am to
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What I don't understand is why in the hell everyone is pissy about block seating... heck, it's in the endzone.


I'm sure there are plenty of seats worse than the ones occupied by the blocks.

Start the blocks at the worst seats and have the ones closest to the field be the first come first serve.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:17 am to
The "Us vs Them" mentality it creates. Also, I remember being a bit pissy in 2009 when I stood in the rain for hours before the Arkansas game while the Greeks came around the time of kickoff which just so happened to coincide with when the rain stopped.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 11:18 am
Posted by ATLabama
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:19 am to
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The "Us vs Them" mentality it creates. Also, I remember being a bit pissy in 2009 when I stood in the rain for hours before the Arkansas game while the Greeks came around the time of kickoff.


I think a lot of that comes from the heavy "anti-greek" sentiment that is loudly heard on campus.

I'll never forget back in 2008 there was an article in the CW that asked the players when they scored a touchdown to run away from the greek section and, "celebrate with the real fans."

I mean, this is a two-way street here.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:22 am to
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I mean, this is a two-way street here.

No doubt. I also remember a CW article (maybe 2011) where some sorority girl asked for sororities to have block seating as well since they don't have a place to sit if they don't get a date and clearly did not want to sit with the rest of the students. It was just one girl, but she certainly reinforced the impression many people have of Greeks which is that they want to be separate from the rest of the population at least socially.

Also, I hate when people say the seats become general admission after 45 minutes because everyone knows any non-Greeks that sit there uninvited would not be welcome. I have a coworker that sat there with a student guest ticket, and it was made very clear to him he wasn't welcome.

ETA: It isn't the biggest deal to me because like you said, they are given the worst seats. Fundamentally, I am against it, but it doesn't affect me enough to actually cause me to go out and try to do something about it.
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 11:30 am
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 11:37 am to
I don't even care about the "us vs. them" crap, although I think you'd have to be willfully ignorant to say it doesn't exist. I just think its fricking wrong that the University preserves the ability for some students to sit where they want and with whom they want regardless of when they arrive just because they have the money to pay for it. If they want to sit with their bros and their dates, get there early enough to find seats. If me and my friends decided to dick around on the Quad until 20 minutes before kickoff we sometimes didn't all get to sit together. That's the price you pay though.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:13 pm to
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What I don't understand is why in the hell everyone is pissy about block seating... heck, it's in the endzone.


Because you have a fanbase that has been on a waiting list for years with no hope in site for a chance to buy a ticket. Then they hear how the student section leaves at minimum 3k+ seats empty all game and numerous others that become vacant throughout the game. And those students are just given a seat because they belong to a certain group

Then you have students who would go to the game if they werent stuck up in the nose bleeds and were able to become more a part of the game.

I dont think there would be a problem with the students and block seating if non group members had access to the lower level(correct me if Im wrong on no lower level seating) as well on a first come basis for a significant portion of the lower level.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:43 pm to
The way it is now, freshmen go to the upper deck and everyone else goes to the lower bowl.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:47 pm to
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The way it is now, freshmen go to the upper deck and everyone else goes to the lower bowl.


The diagram I saw for the blocks had all the lower level for certain groups. I am not an alabama fan, nor student so obviously I am just going off of what Ive seen on quick searches and here
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:10 pm to
The lower bowl goes from the southwest corner to about the 20 on the visitors sideline. The end zone is where block seating is.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:31 pm to
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The lower bowl goes from the southwest corner to about the 20 on the visitors sideline. The end zone is where block seating is.



Ah, then block seating shouldnt be an issue. They should lower the student ticket allotment then. its hard because you cant give it back/take away from season ticket holder later, but if thet are going never fill 3k of the 17k seats, something needs to be done.

Another issue as noted on the rant, is these late games, people want to make that multi hour long drive home. With the ESPN/SEC deal, most games have been at nigh. I routinely dont get home until 1-1:30 for our games, and thats with leaving a few minutes early and no celebration
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:36 pm to
Not to mention the fact that going to a night game prevents you from watching every good game besides the CBS afternoon game. They need to just bite the bullet and put a few more games on at noon. Even without going to the game its almost impossible to keep up with them all. Last weekend there were like 5 games I was flipping between after we started to rape the Hogs.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 1:38 pm to
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Not to mention the fact that going to a night game prevents you from watching every good game besides the CBS afternoon game. They need to just bite the bullet and put a few more games on at noon. Even without going to the game its almost impossible to keep up with them all. Last weekend there were like 5 games I was flipping between after we started to rape the Hogs.



since the espn deal, I have not kept up with games like I did before. I go to every home game at least and its hard to watch the others. we get maybe two in during the day while tailgating and thats it. however I am there at 8 am, whereas most people are not. they are traveling during the games or at the games
Posted by BamaFanInAthens
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:19 pm to
I've never been to BDS. How would you know if a person leaving early is a UA student?
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:24 pm to
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Is the block seating causing students to not come to the game as well?
Back when I was as a student, dealing with the ones with the blocks was a pain in the arse. They believed that the seats were reserved to them at all times (not true - if not filled 30 minutes prior to kickoff, they are no longer reserved), but they'd keep sending pledges to harass you.

On the other hand, if you got to the stadium early enough, there were plenty of seats in the student section. Hell, I used to sit first row, field level, twenty feet from the action, at every game.

I wonder how much the police patdowns at the gates has to do with it. Seems like they've cracked down on letting them in with booze and coke.
Posted by CapstoneGrad04
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:53 pm to
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I've never been to BDS. How would you know if a person leaving early is a UA student?


Students can only enter/exit through specific gates.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 4:51 pm to
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I just think its fricking wrong that the University preserves the ability for some students to sit where they want and with whom they want regardless of when they arrive just because they have the money to pay for it. If they want to sit with their bros and their dates, get there early enough to find seats. If me and my friends decided to dick around on the Quad until 20 minutes before kickoff we sometimes didn't all get to sit together. That's the price you pay though.


Completely agree.

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I don't even care about the "us vs. them" crap, although I think you'd have to be willfully ignorant to say it doesn't exist.


It is a two way street, "the us vs them," and I agree, too, that it's crap. I never cared to venture onto that two way street when I was an active fraternity member, but I knew it was there. And then like now, I prefer not to get caught up with those on either side that would judge a person solely on membership or nonmembership to any organization.


This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 4:53 pm
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 4:59 pm to
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With the ESPN/SEC deal, most games have been at nigh. I routinely dont get home until 1-1:30 for our games


This will always be an issue in Auburn and Tuscaloosa. Neither town has enough hotel rooms to accommodate all the fans who would like to stay the night after the game. I don't expect that to change, because outside of football season, there's not much of a demand for more hotels.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 5:13 pm to
Hotels are hard to come by but they were supposed to be building a big fancy one somewhere near downtown, iirc. hell Tuscaloosa doesn't even have enough to restaurants to feed everybody who wants to eat on a game weekend. Be prepared to wait about 30 mins to be seated almost anywhere you go, and if the wait is that long then the food is probably gonna be subpar.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 5:20 pm to
Auburn is hour wait at least on Fridays and Saturdays, hotels charge max rate, which is usually 2 night minimum, with shitty and I mean shitty hotels charging $200, per.

The only real hotel left downtown auburn is the conference center and its booked 25 years in advance. They sell the game weekends as a season package. The only hope at getting one of the rooms there is a cancelation, from one of the tv channel blocks or a season package holder. Then it cost a a lot. I think I paid $1300 last year for a double full bed room.
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